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Ask PoopReport: Aggression And Excretion -- A Connection?

Posted 03.09.2005 by The Midnight Rappler (18)
Dear PoopReporters,

Has anyone ever explored the seemingly obvious link between male aggression and bathroom behavior?

It seems that most of the terms used to describe poop or pooping on PoopReport include elements of anger or even violence: "punched a grumpy," "ripped a snarler," "angry, growling farts," or -- my favorite description of an urgent shit -- "a snarling, clawing beast, yearning to be free."

The connotations are inescapable, especially when coupled with years of going into public men's rooms and seeing holes punched or kicked in walls, doors ripped off stalls, towel dispensers crushed like soda cans, and piss and or shit on the floor, walls, and, once, even the ceiling! None of the few ladies rooms I've ever seen the inside of looked even remotely like these war zones.

All of this has really got me wondering: when we men go to take a dump, do we feel the need to vent in other ways as well? Is there a connection between pooping and aggression?

thepoopertrooper (not verified) -- 03.09.2005

Speaking from personal experience, I've never become agressive when dropping dece, for me its mostly a brief experience, in, sit, shit, wipe, wash hands, leave. However I can see how someone with roids.com could become violent, especially as the turd itself is passing by all those pulsating blood vesicles, creating a feeling of great anguish and pain. Nonetheless, this is not a question easily answered and in this posters oppinion the topic need furhter study.

Logjam (2442) -- 03.09.2005

Interesting question. But I'm with Tronald, that there is some preliminary work to do. Someone (for a dissertation or senior project) should look at PR stories written by males vs females to see if there is a difference in the type of terms they use to describe crapping. If there is a difference, and it has to do with use of aggressive language, than explore whether this translates into actual aggressiveness in the restroom (a difficult study). My money would be on a difference in language but no difference in behavior -- for men, talking IS the action.

ThreePly (not verified) -- 03.09.2005

I tend to cuss a lot when I'm struggling with a beastly turd, and I think most would describe that as an expression of aggression. So to answer your question, yes, there is a connection.

Trinald Dump (not verified) -- 03.09.2005

I don't think your question is coming from a solid starting point. Your examples of 'taking a shit' euhemisms are hardly universal. I've heard aggressive adjectives used to describe shits (mean, nasty, etc) but none you mention.

Also i think it has been established in earlier conversations here that women's public toilets are often more revolting than men's. I don't know where you've been going to the bathroom, but it you seem to be describing a New York City A train more than the average men's room.

Finally,ignoring the lack of merit in the setup, the answer to your question , in my humble opinion is no. Aggression seems more likely when one is denied the ability to shit. Letting go of a friendly crap is a relaxing, invigorating, soothing experience.

do you think there's a connection between aggression, and massage? Is there a connection between a warm bath an male aggression? These ideas seem just as likely.

The Midnight Rappler (18) -- 03.09.2005

I agree with Tronald in that taking a shit is or can be a very soothing experience but could not help but noticing time and again the agressive and even violent terms often used to describe such a wonderful act.

Crappen Geocacher (not verified) -- 03.09.2005

Work Place aggression is one thing that happens at my place, but not me, also people who don't seem to conform to society. Never did hear of anybody that had such a bad poop or was so sick that they wrecked the menz room. So many kind of people including just plane slobs that don't care. I never really heard the profane words used in the menz room myself, even though 3 people can poop at once, and 2 standups in that room.

The Shit Volcano (3740) -- 03.09.2005

I don't poop "aggressively" and I'm a female but I don't think this has anything to do with it. I know several males who also don't do any of this shit. I have to agree with Tronald and Logjam. Also wonderpance, in that these must be bar bathrooms you keep going to.

wonderpance (590) -- 03.09.2005

are these bathrooms of which you speak mostly found in places like bars? cuz those sound like bar b-rooms to me. and if that's the case, then the answer is simple: it's not the pooping, but the alcohol that causes the agressive, violent outbursts. it just occurs in the b-room because that's where they can go to let out their agression without anyone seeing them and kicking them out of the bar.

and there is a rather wide variety of terms people use to refer to the act of pooping, and not all of them have angry or violent connotations. and i'm pretty sure the ones that do are usually in reference to the more difficult poops, like big hard ones or diarrhea, and not just any poop.

so, i suppose my answer to your question is: no.

Poo Poo Ca-choo, Mrs. Robinson... (not verified) -- 03.09.2005

Must have something to do with that whole Angry Chimp and the Throwing of the Feces.....perhaps it is an indicator of how mentally and genetically evolved someone is?

FART PRINCE (not verified) -- 03.10.2005

I LIKE TO SHOUT OBSCENITYS WHILE IN THE ACT. AFTERWARDS I THEN GIVE IT A NAME AND FLUSH IT.

SamDamnit (1192) -- 03.11.2005

My grunts and moans are similar to the ones made during coitus. I have done some angry shtuping but not any angry pooping. Some times an evil ogre of a turd will take up residence in my colon. The expelling of said ogre is often met with resistance. It will try to crawl back inside and will turn itself at odd angles to keep from breaching the final portal. I am patient and loving to the little scamp, though. If I became angry and tried to push him out, there would be severe discomfort and possibel damage to myself.

Magula (not verified) -- 03.15.2005

My brother is always cursing the world to be doomed by him on the toilet. It's hilarious, all I hear is, "F*CKING CRAP! THE WORLD IS SCREWED" Then an UHH! as, I assume, he is pushing his poop out. I tend to have a happy peeing/pooing experience, I sing, read the backs of shampoo, and write poems. It's like my poop is a mass problem being released.

Ben (45) -- 02.06.2006

A constipated guy is an angry guy!!

healthy 1 (1426) -- 10.25.2006

I'm a guy. I can't say that I am an agressive pooper. The only time I had an agressive shit was when I had a turd stop cold on me, during a case of the 'rhoids (that story coming soon). Even then, I wasn't breaking up the bathroom.

I have seen dirty mens rooms, but never destroyed ones. Where are these smashed up men's rooms anyway MR?
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It's not nice to fool mother nature.

Nine Inch Log (358) -- 10.25.2006

I don't think I've ever taken an aggressive or vocal poop before. If I'm having difficulty I just rock back and forth a bit, breath deeply, and let nature take it's course. So far no stuck logs.

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Number One . . . I order you to take a number two.

Anomalous Coward (690) -- 10.26.2006

While I myself am not aggressive in my bowel habits, I have been known to pass logs that were VERY aggressive. One was green. I didn't make him angry because I just knew I wouldn't like him when he was angry. Hulkshit. Its frightening.

Hamster (581) -- 08.26.2007

An interesting one this. I enjoy the whole pooping experience - whether needing one or doing one - so it does not make me in any way aggressive. But my ex was always very irascible when she needed a poop.

Chloe (not verified) -- 08.26.2007

I'm a 19-year-old community college student. A topic such as this was discussed in a social sciences class I took this past year that was cross-listed for sociology and criminal justice students. Our professor suggested that using a public bathroom is an adversarial/aggrevating situation for most users. Unlike at home, where we have privacy, better facilities and more control over our environment, needing to use a public toilet tends to bring out the worst in people because of crowding, cleanliness issues, loss of privacy, and the overall concerns of time and vunerability. There was considerable discussion over the latter. (Even though I had my laptop with me, I'm sorry I didn't take better notes!). He said one can learn about the "culture" of an institution (school, business,government, etc.)by studying graffiti left both on the inside and outside. Classmates suggested boredom as being an issue since we're just sitting (and in the case of constipation sitting) for a lengthy time with nothing to do. I remember an older student suggested a magazine or newspaper rack on the inside of the stall door and a younger guy mentioned masterbation as an option. Our prof, I think, was trying to get us to think outside the box (bad pun)and what such confinement does to us. I just know that public stalls that are dirty and gross turn me off, but I pretty much still have to use them. It was a 7:30 a.m. class and 90 minutes later when we dismissed I went in for my morning crap and was confronted with a lineup for each of the five stalls, the usual stench of shit, and finally when I got to sit down, a hand bill on the inside of my stall door from our student programming organization listing speakers, concerts and other activities to keep us on campus. Like sure! If there had been time, I would have walked the five blocks to my apartment to take my crap.

Bilgepump (1676) -- 08.26.2007

There is something to be said regarding the angry aggressiveness... I know from my own experience, wrestling with a stubborn colon carp, and seemingly getting the worst of it, can send me into a fit of rage David Banner would be proud of, causing me to Hulk out on the trepidatious turd, ripping it from my bowels, and nothing in my way, dispensers, stall doors, even the very porcelain on which I may or may not be perched, stands much of chance of survival. Often, Tarzan yells, and Neanderthal-like grunting and mewling accompany this total annihilation of decorum and constraint...very likely leaving me in the fetal position, curled up in a fetid corner of the 'loo, sucking my thumb and trying to escape the mental horrors of my own alimentary evolution.

Hamster (581) -- 08.26.2007

Chloe - amazing! That this should be the subject of a lecture, that is! Although I, and, I'm sure, most of the members of this site, would find it very interesting! Imagine the professor talking to a bunch of us regular posters on here - he'd probably get a more animated discussion than he bargained for!!!

Seriously, I do think that the main point he makes is a good one.

I note also that you are another victim of the gross under-provision in ladies toilets. A very common theme on this site.

Donner (not verified) -- 08.26.2007

Yes, there is a connection between poop and aggression. First, it's the waiting. I've been holding a shit for a couple of hours, I'm on my lunch hour, I should be looking over my notes for my Advanced Algebra test next period, but I decide to finally give in and take my shit. Seven of eight stalls are taken and the eighth one has some special ed kid working to undue his jeans. His accident has probably already happened! A door opens and I move to claim it, only to have a boy come out holding his pants up and saying he needs toilet paper. Good luck freshman! The stall right next to me opens and an older student comes out slowly after picking up his book bag. The bowl is gross with two or three persons' shit unflushed. I put my foot on the flusher and nothing happens. ****! Back to waiting again. I hear a door creek and it's bent so badly I'm not sure it will latch for me. A boy exits while pulling up his shorts and tucking his shirt in. Why he doesn't stay in the stall to do that I don't know. I go to close the door that is hanging with only one of two latches. So much for closing and privacy. I go to pull my boxers down and be seated and I see there's a large amount of urine on the seat. The previous user must have shit, stood up and then peed over the seat. It's gross but I'm going to be unloading in a few seconds regardless whether I'm seated or not. I grab for the toilet paper to wipe the seat dry. **** The entire roll is missing--someone took it off the contraption that is on the wall. What the hell, I just sit down and unload with with no more than a second or two and an intial fart to spare. I get to thinking there's sure no enjoyment in this and about how I'm going to get the paper to wipe with. The shit takes me no more than 30 seconds and then I'm up, adjusting my jeans with my shit-laden pants and mentally mapping my route to an upstairs bathroom where I might get a little privacy when I reseat myself and hopefully will have the tools with which to wipe. I become more aggressive when I'm followed upstairs by a female assistant principal who tells me I need a pass. I walk away from her, into the restroom and sit down and wipe. She sends a security guard in to check up on me and I get a referral for insubordination. Aggression...you bet! Should I expect anything different as I start my senior year?

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