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Ask PoopReport: Butt Problems

Posted 02.18.2004 by doniker (1517)

Dear Poopreport,

My daughter is almost eight years old. As with any child, her potty training had its ups and downs. But by the time she was six she really didn't need any more help in the bathroom.

My daughter is basically an only child (she has a 22-year-old half-brother), so she is a little spoiled. We call her The Dictator. She gets control of the TV remote, she orders us around like waiters, and nine times out of ten in any situation, she gets her way.

About six months ago we started discovering that she wasn't wiping her ass too good. We often found dook in her underwear while doing laundry, and she sometimes stunk like shit. My wife got on her about thoroughly wiping her crack.

It then got to the point where she was wiping so good that after every dump she would use a roll of toilet paper, and I would have to break out the plunger daily. We tried the wet wipes route, but she was still having problems. Not only was there still crap on her ass after several attempts at wiping, but it got on her clothes, the sink, the carpet, the wall, you name it.

After a month or so of not wiping good enough and/or wiping too much and making a mess, now it's something new: as soon as she's done pooping, we hear her call out, "Butt Problems!"

This could mean anything from shit smeared somewhere in the room to an ass filled with fudge. It now seems that EVERY TIME she's in the bathroom dropping a loaf, there are Butt Problems. Being since she is spoiled and gets frustrated easily, I wonder if she is now just taking advantage of the wife and I. Every day, it's the cry of "Butt Problems!", and we open the door to find her bent over, ass in the air and full of turd tracks, just waiting for one of us to wipe her.

I often protest that, since I am a man, I shouldn't be wiping a little girl's butt; so my wife is the main wiper. But I get forced to do it if Mom ain't home.

I know she shits at school, and there is nobody there to wipe her ass. Are we being taken advantage of? Is she even TRYING to clean her own ass? Are we mere servants to The Dictator?

The things I have to deal with.

-- Doniker

AssBlaster2000 (1117) -- 02.18.2004

There is a member of my family with a son who just turned eight. She is too lazy to deal with skidmarked underwear, so she wipes her son's ass for him all the time. The poor kid doesn't really even know how. Of course, he could if he had to, but "poo is yukky" and he doesn't want to. It kind of sickens me that she does that, bu she won't listen to anyone, and her son continues to get his ass wiped for him. I can picture the same thing going on until he hits puberty, really. I can only imagine how much this poor kid will get made fun of at school if his friends find out. Not to mention that at eight years of age you really should be able to take care of your own basic functions. What if Mom isn't home, or something happens to her?

So yes, Doniker, your daughter is totally taking advantage of you. She isn't trying to clean her ass because she wants you to do it. This cycle will continue as long as you let it. I'm not a parent so it wouldn't be my place to tell you how to stop it, but it's important that you do.

Dave (11538) -- 02.18.2004

Doniker, what role does PoopReport play in your household? I know that your wife knows about your PoopReporting. Do you guys talk about it and make jokes about it and stuff? The reason I ask is that maybe this is your daughter's way of trying to get closer to you. She knows you think poop is funny, so she does this to get your attention, not knowing the distinction between funny poop and inappropriate poop.

Maybe the best thing to do would be to work on that distinction with her...? (But how do you explain what makes poop funny and what makes it inappropriate to a child?)

doniker (1517) -- 02.18.2004

We openly talk about pooping and farting in our household and yes it's made to be a funny thing.

My daughter has seen PoopReport. She doesn't know what it is all about but laughs at the funny pictures.

bub (not verified) -- 02.18.2004

We have a 6 yr old who still gets her butt wiped by mom. I haven't had to do it since she was potty training (and she was a quick study) but I think she takes care of it at school or when mom's not home.

It's kind of funny because she will come up to my wife and whisper in her ear, she then get's the nod from mom and off she goes. A short time later we hear the familiar call "Done!", and mom get's up to "wipe the smears away."

At 6, I think she's taking advantage of mom to some degree, but she must do it on her own when she has to and, without evidence to the contrary, she seems to do a proper job when she has to do it on her own. Given all that, I'm not worried.

While it may seem odd to be wiping an 8 yr old's butt, beit girl or boy, they're coming to the age where that will change rather abruptly. The transition from little boy/girl to young man/woman has many difficulties, but there are some things that the child will want to start handling on their own.

viper2 (not verified) -- 02.18.2004

Doniker, while I understand your care in this situation, it's pretty ridiculous to be wiping an 8 year old's butt for them. This should have ended at 5 at the latest, and it seems that your problem stems from the "dictatorship" of your child. You need to draw the line and make it clear she must do some things by herself, and, seemingly, instill a sense of discipline and accountability in your child. I'm not trying to tell you how to raise her, but it appears that you need to take a more authoritative stand in this, and other, matters.

PoopIsMyFriend (not verified) -- 02.18.2004

I'm not a parent, but I would definitely put a stop to it as soon as possible. I envision future issues/fetishes for this girl...

doniker (1517) -- 02.18.2004

pervert. there is certainly NOTHING sexual about this.

Justa Girl (not verified) -- 02.18.2004

Doniker, unless your 8 year old is handicapped physically or mentally, there is no reason she shouldn't be able to wipe her own ass and do a thorough job of it without using an excessive amount of toilet paper. With a child this age, I'd suggest removing some of her priveleges until she shows that she can take care of her needs. For example, she's not allowed to watch her favourite tv program until she can show that she's responsible enough to look after her bathroom needs for a period of 3-5 days. You call her "spoiled" and seemed to write that almost affectionately. There is nothing cute about a "princess" who needs her butt wiped at 8 years old and has the adults at her disposal. You're setting yourself up for some huge issues when she's a teenager. Anyway, the question you had was about the butt wiping and I think you're wise to have a concern about it. Sit down with your wife and figure out a plan of action. Your efforts won't work if your wife doesn't back you up. Good luck!

The Shit Volcano (3652) -- 02.18.2004

My Mom stopped wiping my ass when I was two. It was pretty easy for her to get the message across to me. "If you don't want to be gross, wipe your butt!" It worked great.
Your kid is definately taking advantage of you. I think the best thing you could probably do for her is to answer her "butt problems" call with, "Wipe it yourself!" My dad wouldn't have let me leave the bathroom if it wasn't as clean as it was when I left.
I don't know, though. I don't have any kids. Just the four-footed variety.

PooperGal (not verified) -- 02.18.2004

You got some good advice, Donicker, especially from Justagirl. She hit the nail on the head. Assblaster and Dave make excellent points too.

Bottom line: your child needs to learn that it's her responsibility to take care of her "bottom line."

Jack the Dripper (not verified) -- 02.18.2004

Here are your options:

1:let her friends notice her stinky rear and tell her/make fun of her about it.

2:tell her her friends WILL notice and WILL make fun of her stinky "butt problems"

Trust me when I was a little kid,I had a friend like that

Jack the Dripper (not verified) -- 02.18.2004

I mean when her friends make fun of her shell stop herself

Di Uhreea (409) -- 02.18.2004

Hey Don, I sometimes have the same problem. My 5 y.o. son is pretty "anal" about being clean but for some reason, my daughter doesn't take the extra care to make sure she's nice & clean.

It's weird because she's usually the neat freak. Some things I've said to her to help are that she is going to smell and the kids at school are gonna call her "poopy-pants".
I've told her to check the paper after she wipes to make sure she's done.
I've shown her how grossed out I get when I see skids in her undies.
And, I've told her she's going to have a sore butt from poop on it (germs, etc..)

PIMF, get real. As if a parent wiping their kid's ass is going to cause issues.

PoopIsMyFriend (not verified) -- 02.18.2004

Doniker, I didn't say there was anything sexual about what you're doing. But it can lead to issues when she grows up. If you don't want truthful insight into how this could potentially be harmful to your daughter, then you shouldn't have asked.

Poonurse (1313) -- 02.18.2004

Hi Doniker---Instead of punishing her, try some positive reinforcements. You and Mrs Doniker decide on some things daughter likes to do, some kinds of really coveted activities. Tell her you will do "butt checks" for a while. If she is pretty clean, she gets to do the activity. After a few times, stretch it out so that maybe a week with a relatively clean butt earns her the priviledge.
Get her some really pretty panties (later on you can buy her thongs when she is a teen, if your problem is still dragging on). She will be less likely to soil something she values and perceives as nice.

You could couple this with having her "help" Mrs. Doniker with the laundry, but don't make this a time to ridicule her or punish her. Like all things in life, it's about accountability and rewards for a job well done. We make skids in our drawers, we all have to deal with the results.

peace
poonurse

PooperGal (not verified) -- 02.18.2004

Oh, good points, poonurse. I'd never recommend ridicule or humiliation as a way to deal with the problem. Kids need positive reinforcement, not punishment for habits that sometimes their own parents unwittingly reinforce.

I have read that children who wet the bed have improved a lot when they are given positive goals and rewards for reaching them. Maybe the same would be true with butt wiping.

The Shit Volcano (3652) -- 02.18.2004

If nothing else, she'll have boyfriends someday. You can tell them all that you used to wipe her ass. Then you can fulfill your duty as father and embarass the hell out of her.

doniker (1517) -- 02.18.2004

THANK YOU MY FRIENDS FOR ALL YOUR IMPUT....IT GIVES ME ALOT TO THINK ALOT.

CHEERS.

Natascha (not verified) -- 02.18.2004

Yes she is taking advatage. You should let her continue to wipe to much. I would rather plundge the toilet than clean up poop any day.

Thunderturds Are Go (12) -- 02.19.2004

My sis used to have that problemand it continued until around 7 or 8. She'd always be yelling out for someone to wipe her bum. However, she grew out of it, with parental pushing.

Slim Jim Junkie (not verified) -- 02.19.2004

Yeah, I sometimes wouldn't wipe my ass when I was 8.
My parents just waited until my itching butt was too annoying, then they told me I should wipe with TP.
It worked, since I never shit without making at least one pass with TP.

The Shit Volcano (3652) -- 02.19.2004

I don't recommend the method used to prevent me from doing that when I was 8. By that age no one touched my ass without getting a bloody beating. That meant wiping my own ass.

daphne (3325) -- 02.20.2004

Donniker, my heart goes out to you for one and one reason only.
1.) Most dads I saw growing up didn't care enough to deal. They let the mom handle it.

I will tell you what I do each and EVERY TIME my kids attempt to deal out behavior below their years, and just this year it's taking its wonderful magic on my seven year old Maddie.
If either one of them does something that is considered developementally under them, I give them a chance to change the behavior, and if they don't I remove everything from their rooms and lives that a child under the age of five can't have.
A five year old can't go out and play unattended, or do playstation, or stay up after 8 pm and the like.
Man, buddy, it works very well because it's the psychology of a child having to take responsibility for their actions. The MOST IMPORTANT PART OF BEING A PARENT IS MAKING SURE THEY OWN THE REACTIONS OF THEIR ACTIONS.
I sense you aren't having a lot of luck with this with your wife and you are upset.
I also think Dave is right, and maybe your daughter is trying to see how far she goes and bond at the same time.
I am going to say one last thing, and that is to correlate kids to dogs again, and don't bust on me. This one is really on the ball.

It is easier to teach the dog or kid the first time right than to break bad behavior.

SO, I hope that whatever you attempt to do to break the cycle in your home, you remember that it's going to be harder than establishing behavior. But, Donniker, don't give up.
Also, if you put your foot down about the ass thing, then remember this, too. You don't have to play that game. If you say that you're not wiping anymore, don't. Let the wife handle it. If wife is not home, said kid will sit in the bathroom for 5 hours. Leave the house. Go for a walk. I think if you put your foot down and don't play along, then you will have trouble for a while, but when everyone sees you're not having it, it will stop. Especially if your wife has to be the ass wiper. Don't let the other kids do it, if there are any.

I wish you the best. Really. When my daughter got sick and had troubles with salmonella, her behavior was crazy for 4 years. I held on and she's finally under control. We are here for you.

Pooperscooper (not verified) -- 02.20.2004

If she's getting you to wipe her ass for her, she'll be putting her boyfriends and husband through hell, later on.

If you stop wiping her ass for her, she'll rapidly catch on that she will have to do it herself. Otherwise, her little friends will nick name her 'stinker' and when she gets older, she'll not get any dates.

Your daughter is smart enough to figure all that out and learn to wipe her own ass.

Insane Wayne (not verified) -- 02.20.2004

Get her a pressure washer

The Shit Volcano (3652) -- 02.27.2004

Ha ha ha!

billy wonkerson (not verified) -- 03.30.2004

charles, i have the same problem with leaving skid marks on my favorite boxers, what should i do?

trigunner (not verified) -- 04.06.2004

When I was around 6 years old, my family was at my grandmother's house. I went to go take a crap, and as usual, I called out for my parent's to come wipe my butt. My Dad came in, cleaned up, and we both walked out of the bathroom. When I got out to where my entire family was at (aunts, uncles, cousins, etc.), they all started to point and laugh at me. They were saying things like, "Oh, look at the wittle girl who needs daddy waddy to wipe her wittle butt." Stupid stuff like that, nothing too mean. Regardless, it got the point across and being too embarassed to ask for help, I started wiping my ass on my own. Maybe what this little girl needs is a little old fashioned humilation, like what I got. A little embarassment never hurt anyone. Period.

Dani (not verified) -- 04.17.2004

Doniker, my youngest son had a problem with butt-wiping and it soon took care of itself. Each time I found nasty briefs in the laundry, I set them aside for HIM to clean in the laundry sink with some Dawn detergent and an old toothbrush. His briefs has been pretty spotless since then. I've raised one son, who's in college and the above one is in elementary school. Kids will do what you allow them to do. Spoiled children grow up to be the adults everyone hates. Remember that statement when you consider letting your daughter run the household. YOU are the parents - get that message across. Good Luck!

acid_fairy (not verified) -- 04.24.2004

She should be able to wipe her own butt, but this might just be a really messed up cry for attention. Tell her that she has to wipe herself. Maybe a reward system, like a small prize for going a week without having "butt problems", and a bigger one for going a month. And maybe get her to wash all the dirty underwear herself. That would do it for me.

Mr. P. Scooper (not verified) -- 04.26.2004

I sometimes have this problem, calling in neighbors and sometimes the pizza guy to do my dirty work. I can't seem to suck it up and stick my hands in that stuff.

Lindsay (not verified) -- 05.11.2004

Get GoBidet, It works!!!

Bob (not verified) -- 06.09.2004

I have a MAJOR WIPING problem its no biggy. I over flow the potty so many times that we are going to get new flooring, its all soggy.I think its not a problem its a gift. Sure I gets it every where but I blame it on the dog and I get away with it too!! ha ha ha !!! When I have the runs I let it drip in the carpet and it gets all crunchy and stuff.All my friends know and it does not bother them,there true friends. Also I have a magic trick I can turn white undies to brown undies in 9.5 seconds.

Antony Elsdon (not verified) -- 06.30.2004

I'm 16 and my mommy wipes my butt :D

Lame comment!
Hillda (not verified) -- 07.28.2004

HERE IS A LITTLE SONG ABOUT POOP

POOP IS GROSS
POOP IS GROSS
POOP IS GROSS AND SICK
SO YOU DONT WANNA PICK
IT UP AND HAVE IT LIKED
POOP IS GROSS
POOP IS GROSS
POOP IS GROSS AND DONT FORGET,
IT IS A HUMAN PIECE OF SHIT
YOU DONT WANT POOP THATS BIT
POOP IS GROSS
POOP IS GROSS
POOP IS GROSS AND THEN YOU THINK,
ONLY RABBITS EAT THIS STINK
POOP IS GROSS
POOP IS GROSS
POOP IS GROSS AND IF YOU WANNA EAT IT
A DEAD PERSON THEN, YOU MAY BE IT
POOP IS GROSS
POOP IS GROSS
POOP IS GROSS AND TRY TO EAT IT, HOPE YOU MISS
ITS REALLY COVERED IN YOUR PISS
POOP IS GROSS
POOP IS GROSS
POOP IS GGRROOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
SO AFTER THIS SONG, DO YOU REALLY WANNA EAT POOP? BELEIVE ME, YOU DONT WANNA EAT THAT GOOP
(how do you guys like the song?)

The Shit Volcano (3652) -- 08.03.2004

Yeah. Whatever, Hilda.

excessive post man (not verified) -- 08.15.2004

make her sit there until she gives up and wipes even if it has been two hours of her butt problem proclamation

werewolf pooping on trees (not verified) -- 08.20.2004

The only way to stop this problem is to not respond when she asks you to wipe her butt. If she won't do it thats her problem. If the thought of walking around with poop in her butt doesn't affect her, some punishments may be in order. Just remember, even if you like to spank her as a punishment, don't do it.(I am not in any way implying that you routinely hit your daughter, it's just that spanking was always the normal punishment in my house) You risk getting her crap on your hand.

mommy nugz (not verified) -- 09.01.2004

my kid used to run into the living room butt naked, bend over and spread em, shouting, is it clean???

The Shit Volcano (3652) -- 09.28.2004

I used to stick my fingers up my nose to plug it. Kids do some freaky stuff sometimes.

ANONOMOUS (not verified) -- 12.04.2004

I only poop once a week is this normal and if it isnt i want to know how to poop more please help.

Turd Herder (not verified) -- 06.17.2005

Just a sick suggestion.

My father used to house train our dogs by rubbing their noses in the problem.

shitting is almost as good as sex (not verified) -- 08.14.2005

Doniker even if you dont want to hear it and i could see you are offended just by reading about it ,i tend to agree with PoopIsMyFriend ....and guess what , it does not need to be anything sexual about it , simple fact that she likes it ( if she didn`t like you doing it she would do it herself )and likes other ppl doing that for her tells alot more than the fact that she is spoiled ...I happen to know alot of ppl with fetishes and as any psychologist can tell you 80% of them are based on childhood episodes...so even though it may not be sexual now she clearly takes pleasure in other ppl wiping her ass for her.Even if you put an end to it now that might be inprinted in her memory and she might(or might not) act on it later as a fetish which is totally ok ...there is nothing wrong with having a fetish...and just because you can`t accept the idea it does not make it a wrong thing

iLOVpoo (not verified) -- 09.03.2005

i think she should just air dry she might learn something when the crust starts to fall off. ha ha make her wipe her butt, butt dont forget to wash the butt wipers!

Anonymous Coward (not verified) -- 12.02.2005

I dont think it has to be about punishing and consequences.
Just talk to the kid about it and let them know that you're not going to clean up after them anymore.
I think the idea of having your kid clean their own underwear is a good idea too.
You don't wanna make them feel bad though...this includes name-calling and embarrassing them in front of friends.

shitbricks (not verified) -- 12.03.2005

I think this is awful! I had a creepy dad that insisted on wiping my ass until I was waaay too old. I don't remember having a choice or being told I had an option to do it myself! I was ALSO called a little dictator and then ridiculed by my mother and forced to wear diapers (because I was such a "baby" for having shit on my ass) when I didn't know how to wipe. JESUS! How was I supposed to know?! They never fucking taught me or explained that I should!!! I think this IS BULLSHIT and I think you and Mrs D should seriously rethink your friggin parenting skills or your gonna have a drug addict daughter that chooses pooping on old business men as her profession. really.

Bowl Buster (not verified) -- 02.18.2006

I have two cousin, one is eight and the other seven and after they pooped they would say. Come wipe my butt. I would laugh sometimes.LOL If i was there parents i would say wipe it yourself or stay in the toilet all day.

Anonymous Coward (not verified) -- 03.17.2006

my son is 6 yr old and all of a sudden he has been going to the bathroom and not wiping properly and not showering properly to get it out when he washes. I have tried so many things like going in the bathroom with him and standing there when he takes a shower. He does not seem to get the fact that he stinks and needs to wash his behind. he also pees in the bed this is to much i can't handle it. i am at my whits end. so if you find something that works let me know please

Anonymous Coward (not verified) -- 05.08.2006

I have one word. Tongs.

GottaGoGirl (2615) -- 05.08.2006

Tongs, huh? Care to elaborate? I have this vivid imagination, and.....

.....where was I?

Double Flush (582) -- 05.08.2006

I don't think I wanna know where this is going... I do have a wild imagination though. I've wiped my own butt since I was potty trained, so sadly I have no advice to offer.

_______
Practicing the ancient Chinese art of double flushing... because sometimes, a single flush just isn't enough.

Totally Grossed Out (not verified) -- 06.02.2006

I have a seven year old step-son who has lived with my husband and I for about a year because his mom was unfit. We have legal custody of him but he goes to visit his mom every other weekend. Well she got married about five months ago and had a new baby about two months ago. My step-son is always excited about going to his moms and talks non stop about his new baby brother. Here's the problem: when she had the baby, he began shitting his pants and hiding the dirty underwear. When asked why he said it hurt to go #2. We took him to the doctor who instructed us to change his diet to high fiber, more fruit and juices and give him an enema. We did all those things but no solution. He still shits his pants and hides it. We have switched to wearing pull up but this doesn't help. His room smells like sewage and tonight I found about 10 pairs of shitty pull ups under his pillow. Talk about gross. He is a smart boy so what the hell is the problem? We have tried talking to him, punishng him; but nothing works. We have a conseling appoint for him next week and I sure hope there is a solution. Has anyone dealt with this kind of problem? Any advice will be helpful.
Also how do you get the shit smell out of your washer?
Thanks

Poonanza (52) -- 09.20.2006

I'd try swabbing it with CLR. CLR smells like wet cat, but it'll wear off.

Just kidding, I dunno if that'd work.

It SOUNDS like your stepson's problem is definitely related to visiting the new baby. Maybe he misses the attention he got as an infant, and is turning his shorts into diapers once again? How long has this been going on? Definitely get away from the pull-ups, they're reinforcing his fantasy. If it hasn't been going on for too long, you could not let him visit his old family. Or let it peter out on it's own. But if it keeps happening just keep, not exactly yelling at him, but act visibly dissapointed. This could shame him into action. Also show him other rooms and things in the house that smell nice, and look clean. It could appeal to the human side of him.

Or maybe, the other house is a crazy place where they punich the baby for pooing? So he's hiding his poo to not get in trouble? That one's a long shot tho.

Poop Doggy Dogg (not verified) -- 12.26.2006

My daughter used to have a similar problem growing up. I tried everything. Finally I tried leaving leftovers from my cats litter box in her room so she would be offended by the smell. She was, and made the connection.

Anonymous Coward (not verified) -- 01.21.2007

My 16 year old son has serious track marks every day. What is going on. I have asked him to bring his dirty underwear to the laundry everyday so that he doesn't collect them in his closet, he's now bringing them up but that hasn't shamed him into wiping his ass properly. He went away for 1 week and never changed his underwear, when I picked him up at the bus and he got into the car I could smell the stench. His underwear were so disgusting I couldn't believe that he actually was wearing them. He had every opportunity to shower and had an entire knapsack full of clean clothes so there was no excuse. When I try to ask him about it he walks away. ???? Any suggestions

GottaGoGirl (2615) -- 01.21.2007

Stop doing his laundry for him.

At some point, his hygiene has to be his own choice.

giantbutt (not verified) -- 03.09.2007

You could always google a pic of several butt problems and you and your wife show them to your daughter. While I do encourage the reward.sys, I would not let it go too far lest she think that she deserves a reward for even breath. lol ppl need to know that there are some things to be done even if there is no huge reward waiting after TP has been tortured. A sense of decency would be in order. What stopped me from the habit of asking for a butt wipe was a sense of

    modesty
. It is the same reason why bathroom stalls need doors. It is the same reason why we wear clothes in the first place.

PoopyHead (not verified) -- 06.25.2007

I have a problem with my 7 year old step-son. We usually get him for the summers, but this year we have him for a whole year. At his moms she lets him takes baths after every #2. As for me I don't think he should be doin that because I believe he should learn how to wipe already. His dad is away sometimes at work so I have to deal with the poop challenges myself. there are times where the toliet is clogged and TP is thrown on the floor full of poop. He also likes to put his hands in his butt to smell it. Then he touches door knobbs and toys which my 1 and a 1/2 year old plays with too. I tell him he is a big boy and he should know how to wipe already. Should I let him take baths after every poop? besides the water bill and his age I think he shouldn't, but I for sure don't go in their to wipe for him. His dad has showed him a couple of times when he is here, but he still doesn't do it right and gets really upset with me because I only let him take a bath before bed. Is that bad? Am I begin to hard on him? I just think if I stick to my guns about the whole bath thing he'll get tired of stinky butt and want to learn to master butt wipping.HELP

daphne (3325) -- 06.26.2007

The best advice I can give you is to let your husband handle this. My brother is remarried, and so is his ex-wife. What I see that works the best for them is to let the biological parent do the problem solving when sharing a child is the case.

Anything you do that changes what the mom does will be seen as stepping on her toes, even if you're helping.

If he's using too much toilet paper, you could buy flushable wipes and ask him how he would like to use "disposable washcloths". He might be up for it.

You should have a talk with hubby to have him lay down the new law.

And lastly, for your husband, you could suggest that he enforces if his son insists on putting poopy hands on the doorknobs, etc., then he'll be responsible for wiping all those surfaces himself with antibacterial wipes. You might want to supervise him with such a caustic wipe, or you might want to use something easier on the skin like antibacterial gel on a napkin. But either way, the best thing you husband can do is to make this kid clean up AFTER HIMSELF. It will teach him the most about what he's doing.

Best of luck and let us know how it goes. Please take to heart what I said about letting hubby do the disciplining. The last thing you need is his ex pissed at YOU.


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.....hugging bunnies since 1969
www.daphneszoo.com

Mad Laundry Mom (not verified) -- 06.26.2007

My 11-year-old daughter has no problems wiping when we are at home. However, when we're in public toilets, the amount of residue left (for both #l & #2) is atrocious. She starts middle school in August and I want to get a handle on it now.

When I talk to her about it (usually on laundry day) there's always an EXCUSE. It's no longer valid now, but up until two weeks ago, it was that they were not given enough time to go at school and that there were always a lot of other girls waiting for the next available stall. On Memorial Day weekend we traveled to Galveston beach for a short vacation. At one reststop I specifically reminded her to take her time to wipe carefully. Her response, "Oh Mom, it's not a problem." When I confronted her
at laundry time three days later, she said when she got done with her crap,she discovered there was no toilet paper in the stall. I told her quite plainly that that was an unacceptable excuse and that she shouldn't be sitting on an uncovered toilet anyway. Her response: "Mom, get real!"

When we got back to Houston, we shared a small service station bathroom and I insisted that she wipe in front of me. She called me "anal" but agreed to my scrutiny as the least of the evils--with grounding a strong possibility. I tried to explain to her that one very feeble wipe in the vacinty of the rectum is not going to be sufficient. I told her she needs to look at what is on each tissue and that determines how much more time she needs to spend on it.

The "attitude" she gives is the same, but the results are somewhat better.

Cami's Mom (not verified) -- 06.27.2007

Like Mad Laundry Mom, I had to constantly get on my daughter about wiping. Last summer, I remember being especially incensed because it was happening EVERY day, and there were no stress issues, crowded bathrooms at school, etc. One evening I was working on the lawn when Cami and her friend rode up on their bicycles. Bingo! They are basically using their bikes 10 to 11 hours a day and the weight they put on the bike seat, up and down when peddling, and often while heavily sweating, causes as much, if not more, contact between the butt and underwear than one can imagine. I felt bad about some of the questions and previous things I had said to her out of anger. "How can you be an 11-year-old honor roll student and not be coordinated enough to wipe your butt?" "If you can't wipe properly at Burger King then may be you should be having lunch at home!" "Don't they have toilet paper at Megan's house?" Sure Cami is more cautious in wiping now, but I've also become more understanding.

Rob292006 (not verified) -- 07.10.2007

We have a 9 year old son that always has heavy skid marks in his underwear. My wife and I have shown his several times how to wipe properly, but he still has the same problem. He won't take a bath or shower unless you tell him to. Sometimes he goes 4 or 5 days without taking a bath or shower, and wears the same underwear and clothes. He sticks his fingers and toys in his butt and smells them, then he asks other people to smell them. This is getting to be a big problem. Sometimes the poop soaks through his underwear and therough his pants, and it is very visible. Whatever he sits on smells like shit. We've tried taking video games away, grounding, and spankings as a last resort. but that doesn't work. He is not at all embarrassed about this. He always gets made fun of at school, and by the neighbor kids. They always call him stinky, but he just laughs. We took him to a counsler, and they said "boys will be boys" which is no excuse. If s0omebody would have any suggestions, please let me know. We are at our wits ends.

shit story (not verified) -- 09.20.2007

I strongly suspect that there are other issues going on other than ass wiping. Kids will generally control what they can if they feel totally out of control. What on earth can kids control? Their poop, pee, and what they eat. Don't make poop the issue. And by the way, Rob292006, apparently you haven't found out what really makes your kid tick yet. He shouldn't even have toys to stick in his ass. If he can't go to the bathroom, insist that everything he has at his disposal be taken away. I have taken this approach to my five year old. Everything that he has the privledge of using exists because of me and his father. If he can't respect us, then we will not furnish him with privledges. People and belongings are to be respected. Otherwise, you're in for a very unpleasant consequence. It's called having nothing and no one to do anything with until you can respect yourself, your parents, and your possesions - which mom and dad are nice enough to let you use.

Anonymous Coward (not verified) -- 10.09.2007

My 9.5 yr old son is experiencing some of the same problems. He's just come to live with me after 7-8 some-odd years living with his mother. Now that he's with me, his mother informed me that he's started using the toilet without putting the seat down and sitting on the ceramic bowl, and.. not wiping himself properly. I actually thought I started to have mice in my apartment because little pieces of poo were starting to show up on my couch and stuff.. and it smelled attrocious. Regardless, I've talked to him several times and have just now started removing access to entertainment because of this.

My last straw for tolerance really was this weekend. I brought him somewhere in my car, and when we got out and started unloading.. I picked up that smell.. ugh.. When it clicked I checked the seat where he was.. ack. It STUNK sooo bad. I don't need my car wreaking like that. I gave him an earfull, told him that it needs to stop, or I'll start wiping his butt and he most certianly will NOT like that.

He is in counciling, and I'm telling her how it's going.. I just don't know what else to do. I want it to stop because he is starting to stink at times and I don't want him or our house to smell like that. He has enough social issues already that make him quite shy, the last thing he needs is something to REALLY alienate him. Being a single father doesn't add any help to the situation either. I thought it might actually be nice to have my son to myself.. but when you have a continually bitter ex-wife, the suckage never ends.

Anonymous Coward (not verified) -- 10.24.2007

peer pressure.

have another kid come over and witness it. she'll change when it gets around school.

Shitty McGee (not verified) -- 10.27.2007

I just turd fourteen years old. My mommy still cleans my bottom. Is this bad?

Me (not verified) -- 03.11.2008

I have a problem with my butt, and I believe that it's a sweat problem. I'll be sitting in my desk during class when all of the sudden my pants start getting moist where I'm sitting. It's really become a problem, because some people say that it smells horrible. I try to use cologne to cover it up, but I read that cologne just makes the situation worse. I'm 16, and I'm sick of this disgusting problem. I have been drinking about a bottle of Propel a day, and eating a normal serving of 3 meals a day. I try using antiperspirants on my butt, but it won't stop the moisture from building up. Someone please respond!

wonderpance (504) -- 03.11.2008

well, first you should continue searching the site for advice on this issue. it's been discussed a lot here, you just have to find it. here's one: http://www.poopreport.com/Ask/Content/stinks.html . and there are others. just use the search box and type in something like "my butt stinks."

however, having said that, i did just have an idea. and you definitely shouldn't take this as medical advice, and it's probably not recommended, but i use an antiperspirant called Certain Dri. it's like a super strength antiperspirant that blocks your pores or something so you don't sweat. i use it on my underarms (that's what it's for), and it works really well.

you might want to check out their website, too. looks like they have info on excessive sweating, and even though it applies to underarms, butt sweat might not be much different.

i hope that helps.
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i love poop.

Bilgepump (1479) -- 03.11.2008

Wedgie, your pits smell like ass? I fall more and more in love with you every day.

Skiddy kid (not verified) -- 07.01.2008

My 7yo does not wipe when he is away from home. It is a combination of laziness and not wanting to miss out on playing by taking the time to wipe. We've tried everything - punishment, rewards, removal of priviledges etc. Don't know what else to try now. Any ideas ?

Bilgepump (1479) -- 07.01.2008

Not being a parent, I'm not sure its my place to give advice, but have you tried stapling his ass shut?
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The proper order is kiss me, then go smell the other dog or cat's butt. I cannot stress this enough.

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