I go to LMS and i think that this hall pass system is ridiculous. When I didn't bring my pass to school one day I wasn't allowed to use the bathroom. Our Teachers claim it's to prevent bomb threats (when a student writes theres a bomb in the buiding on the wall or something) which we had two of, but all it really does is erm... prevent proper potty usage...

Though I hate turd terroism, whoever came up with this stupid idea, deserves a giant, steaming turd, to be let loose on his or her desk.
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This 'going on credit' thing reminds me of a true story passed along throughout our family. Seems somebody's mother or aunt or grandmother once lectured her son, or grandson or nephew that nice boys 'called up all their poots' in the bathroom at the beginning of each day, so as not to offend anyone thereafter.

Riigggght. That would work. My brother and I still get a good laugh recalling that one.

Pulling My Pants Down For Peace, Plop and Posterity!

I encountered an out-of-paper situation recently.
Had to (s)wipe my card.

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Livin' La Vida Caca!

I just got my entry level job at a security company. It would take some modifications but with the swipe card technology available today, there could be a point-of-entry unit on every stall door and by inserting his/her swipe card, each student could gain access to an otherwise locked toilet stall. This would be a tremendous monitoring tool for administrators who want to cut down on the number of bomb threat and other profane messages left in the stalls. A software program could monitor usage by student and even class and give both the teacher and administrators a better assessment of usage of each stall, broken down to the minute.

While it probably won't help catch those who pee over the seat or add crap to an already full and clogged bowl (a real gross out for my daughter who just started middle school this year), it would be helpful for the larger incidents at my son (a high school freshman) has come across. While taking a crap last month, and this is after he rejected several stalls because of pee on the seats or clogged toilets, he saw a posting saying that the school was going to be victimized the next day and that it would be in retribution for some national policy decision. He let a custodian know, and the administration took the situation very seriously. While they didn't call off school, e-mails were sent to parents and a lot of resources were spent checking the building the night before, and with extra sheriffs searching students, the school day (with about 85% of them in attendance) went off without a hitch. Two of the areas the students were most concerned about--the cafeteria and bathrooms--they tended to avoid as much as possible. He heard conversations about eating in hallways and especially among the girls, of holding their toilet trips until they got home.

Such technology, if used appropriately, could be a great administrative tool. Initially, the cost will be higher, but basic laws of economics say that costs will come down. The question is whether parents will support enforcement of such a swipe card policy and ultimately whether the students will buy into it.

Unfortunately, this technology is the future. I have a swipe card for my 13-story building and even the smallest of office complexes have security now. Local business journals are full of products such as this; the question is at what point the schools, parents and students are going to say "we're ready" to employ the technology that students will ultimately have to accept once they enter the workforce!

I like the way Techno Queen described the equipment available. I'm a senior in high school and also on Student Council. Me, my mother and my kid sister, 11, live in an apartment and we have to use a swipe card to get into our eight-unit building. There is a tracking system available in the rental office that enables Mom to track at what time Kari and I come home from school, if we were to go out, at what time, etc. I don't think she's used it yet because she trusts us and we each use our cell phones to keep in touch with her.

The few kids who trash the bathrooms at school need to be weeded out. I feel such a system would work well. I don't have any problems with a list being kept of me peeing in stall #5 at whatever time and Kari taking her shit in stall #2 at the middle school if it will keep the bathrooms cleaner. It sux how dirty they get by 10 a.m. each morning. No one in their right mind would want to sit down later in the afternoon because the stools are filthy and gross. In the older wing of my school there are metal toilet seat protector dispensers on the wall but they haven't been used since I started four years ago. Our Student Council has heard that some girls apparently put lighters up to them to start fires and others would take a whole box of 50 or so and dump them into the stool, causing big-time clogging and flow-overs. Once my sophomore year some girl(s) smeared shit all over a couple of the seats, onto the inside of the stall doors and over the toilet paper rolls. The principal locked that restroom for a week and we had to walk to the other side of the building. Knowing what I know and being a believer in clean bathrooms, I will take my swipe card any day! My best friend says it will invade privacy but when I hold my crap until I get to Nielsen's c-store after school, well, I just want to be able to sit down, take my dump and not have to worry about showering when I first get home. I'll choose pooping and peeing over privacy any time!

I think that's awful! That's like giving sick days off from work. They never give enough.

These are just for bathroom trips during class, right? Because most of the time, there are other opportunities to use the can between classes, before/after school, at lunch, at gym, etc. I think I maybe had to go to the bathroom during class two times during my entire middle school career. Most of the time, I could go between class if I had to.

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An apple a day keeps the ExLax away!

Remember and Turd Swiper is not one who swipes turds.

I wonder what they'll do the first time some kid who's out of swipes takes a dump in the middle of the main hallway intersection?

If we were to have Techno Queen's swipe card system on the stall doors the answer around it would be to stand right close to the door and when a student comes out, grab the door right away before you had to use your swipe card. That way your "trip" is not recorded. The problem is that I could then trash that toilet and the evidence, at least electronically, would go on their account. My boyfriend feels this could benefit the girls a lot more since they have more stalls and more trips to the stalls. But I don't know how Techno Queen's system would work for the urinals. And he says the urinals get trashed and vandalized too. Also, he said I would benefit by holding my pee and shit for one "sitting" since that would take only one swipe. His mother overheard our conversation on this last night and said she grew up in a part of the country where they use to have pay toilets in large public restrooms. By standing close to the door, she and her friends could catch the door when a person came out and didn't have to pay. I find it amusing that no matter what system of "control" may be suggested, there's always those who think about ways around it! For me, it would start by making sure I went in the morning before I leave home and, whenever possible to hold it, until I get home. My boyfriend already does that. Most of the stalls are open, there's urine on the seats, and he holds his shit until he gets to my house after school. Me and him wouldn't be using our swipe cards that much!

I would think the swipe card technology could be used to monitor not only the usage, but also the abuse and upkeep of each of the toilets. A number of users in a certain period--say a couple of hours--could trigger a command to the monitoring terminal that would alert the custodial administration that a check should be made to evaluate cleanliness or the stock/lack of certain supplies such as toilet paper, soap, etc. And the swipe card would also be a deterrant to vandalism. Like Monique said, a girl starting a fire could be traced back to the last person using that stall. The drawback, according to my boyfriend, would be use in the boys bathrooms. Most of the stalls apparently have no doors. I don't know how the card would be used except to show entry to the main restroom door at a given time. Anything that will keep the bathrooms cleaner and cut down on the threats and vandalism has my vote!

5 days per week of school,4 weeks in a month,15 bathroom trips. This means you could not go once a day. Who is the brillant administrator who did this?
Producing waste since 1967

The emphasis on the technology available for monitoring, while interesting, is missing the main point here: Simone just brought us back to it. Excretion is not always a function that can be scheduled, and denying a student bathroom visits because his account is "overdrawn" for that month is just ridiculous. That policy WILL lead to scenarios like Deja mentioned. Maybe Techno Queen's technology ideas could be used to eliminate the absurd idea of "X" number of bathroom uses per month, by tracking usage. Monitoring could be useful, but the bottom line is: some genius in administration is still going to be in the position of having to decide how many restroom visits are "too many".