I'm doing my part...wipe with a cat, save a tree.

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The proper order is kiss me, then go smell the other dog or cat's butt. I cannot stress this enough.

To quote Chief Joseph of the Nez Perce tribe (kinda), " from where the sun now stands I will wipe no more forever."

PD....I hope this does not have a detrimental effect on our social engagements.

On the serious side, I try to be as green as possible. I am extremely regular and poop almost on a schedule. I take my morning shower post poop and only use a few squares of TP for preliminary cleaning.

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Eat chilies and feel the burn!!

_I certainly do my share of wiping(not by choice) but I also think there are much larger fish to fry with regards to saving tree's - a glance around my neighborhood on any give day will reveal the game of "musical dumpsters" which are large open top garbage receptacles rented by the homeowners to dispose of mounds and mounds of perfectly good wood constructed objects such as; handcrafted oak cabinets/cupboards, beautiful wooden doors,window frames etc.(you get the picture).
Many of these items are only being discarded because they are so "last year" or in need of a new coat of paint etc. It is extremely wasteful and when you discuss this with these people, their only reasoning is that they want to renovate existing homes to look new. They have all grown to dislike it when I come around on one of my tangents to share my opinions, but it really does boil down to the fact that they are throwing away something that is still perfectly functional and at one time took alot of craft to construct. For the most part the items were built to last for many,many years- had the original builders known they were destined to become disposable could have saved alot of time and effort and simply made it from plastic or styrofoam or something else that is easily dispatched.
I will usually try and drive this point home: so you are telling me that you are throwing away this (these) piece(s) of wood to replace it with a "newer" one? well, whats to say that the "new" piece of wood is not in fact older than the "old" one? This is the whole point behind wood!! The absolute waste that occurs is just incredible.

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It's O.K., We just have to smell it; He's got to sit in it!

I just rub my sas along the grass like a dog. Then my dog rolls around in it and I end up washing it off her with soap and water. It may not be very environmental, but it does kill 2 birds with one stone.

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Number One . . . I order you to take a number two.

So do the Europeans and Chinese poop that much less? Do they poop the logs that come off more cleanly? Do they have less diahrear? How is this less forestry-usage accomplished??!!!

Maybe they just have more cats.

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To affect the quality of the poo, that is the art of life. ~Thoreau, sort of.

Nine inch log: you have a cute sas.

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To affect the quality of the poo, that is the art of life. ~Thoreau, sort of.

Bran Lover, they just don't wipe.

Or they just remain seated through several round, limiting ot just one wipe per day - they have more seating capacity in their washrooms and play alot of chess.

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It's O.K., We just have to smell it; He's got to sit in it!

I know! they use our recycled Sears pages!
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To affect the quality of the poo, that is the art of life. ~Thoreau, sort of.

You put your left hand back, you put your left hand back and you shake it all around.
Do that heinie pokie, that's what it's all about!

Several comments to make here.

First, clean butts are reasonably important; we all know paper isn't the best cleaner, but we don't all have access to bidets or other "sophisticated" methods, so we use paper. Obviously bidets use water, which is also in finite supply. A clean bottom doesn't trump everything else; but at the moment of wiping, it trumps whatever else I'm thinking of at the time.

Second, trees are a renewable resource. The paper companies are planting more of them all the time, fast-growing species. Potty paper accounts for some trees, to be sure; but other uses far exceed that, I would guess. Some real figures would help in the discussion.

That being said, I heartily approve of recycled paper for buttwipes. The quilted stuff is OK, I guess, but not necessary; it also (I'm told) clogs up septic systems much faster than the recycled.

Fourth, while I approve of recycled t.p., I will certainly not put myself in the position of telling others what they should or must do. This is still a free country, and those who want to wipe with the expensive stuff can do it, as far as I'm concerned. It's there, and people buy it. Enough said. Wipe on.

Mabe there are less people that can pay for tp. BACK in the mid nineties, I worked in a kidmed clinic. One little girl had a butthole loaded with mushy poo. She sat up on the table and left a schmear on the paper. She covered it with her hand, but not before I saw it. I really was ignorant to how poor, poor really is. I now realize, the girl dint have toilet paper. At the time I thought she had an accident. I had to assess for signs of sexual abuse. No sign of that!
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...And their flesh like dung. Zeph. 1:17

In China
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...And their flesh like dung. Zeph. 1:17

I just go outside and rub my ass up and down a tree. They seem to like that a bit more than being cut down.

But if you could read the tree's mind it would be laughing at your decision to do that at the very same spot that the Grizzly Bear had done the same earlier that day - and you thought it was a knothole .......

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It's O.K., We just have to smell it; He's got to sit in it!

All of this pseudo-environmental "sky is falling" crap is a plot to take away your freedom. Next they will have a polar bear tax on anything that uses energy, a prius only lane on the freeway, and your thermostat will be controlled by congress. From now on I am only going to wipe my ass with the skins of endangered species.

Bran Lover correctly recalls using a Sears catalog. As finding a Sears catalog is hard now, I suggest an alternative.......THE YELLOW PAGES. The motto " THE MOST USED would then be true ! The new motto would be Turn our Yellow Pages Brown !

CEP, I understand that cats are becoming endangered due to such usage on the assage. I'm not naming any names though.

I have hemmherroids and recently discovered wet, medicated wipes. Use 2-3 per poop. They're likely not quality "paper," but moist, medicated qualities make for a nice, clean wipe. Not a very nice thing to have out in the bathroom when guests are over, though no one has yet to ask me, "So... what's wrong with your ass that you use medicated wipes?"

Yellow Pages: "When it comes to rippin one, think of us! We'll see you to the end."

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To affect the quality of the poo, that is the art of life. ~Thoreau, sort of.

We use less TP in Britain because most of us can afford to employ Grooms of the Stool to clean our bungs with fragrant warm water and the finest of cloths.

Washable cloths of course. Damn it, we`re so fucking green over here!

I can't afford a groom for my shitter T-box but, in an effort to be green, I use a minimum of TP and finish with a good soap and water scrub with a washable cloth. Leaves me with a clean and refreshed o-ring.

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Eat chilies and feel the burn!!

Go to http://www.bobrivers.com/#v84530 click on the "twisted tunes" tab, select the "spotted owl" song.

Yes,we use way too much toilet paper, one major factor could be the size of the average butt keeps growing but let's not go there. Instead let's save money and the Earth and be clean at the same time! Get serious and add Bathroom Bidet Sprayers to all your bathrooms. I think Dr. Oz on Oprah said it best: "if you had pee or poop on your hand, you wouldn't wipe it off with paper, would you? You'd wash it off” Available at http://www.bathroomsprayers.com with these you won't even need toilet paper any more, just a towel to dry off! Don’t worry, you can still leave some out for guests and can even make it the soft stuff without felling guilty. It's cheap and can be installed without a plumber; and runs off the same water line to your toilet. You'll probably pay for it in a few months of toilet paper savings. And after using one of these you won't know how you lasted all those years with wadded up handfuls of toilet paper. As for water use a drought is always a concern and must be dealt with prudently but please remember that in the big picture the industrial water users always far exceed the water use of household users and in the case of toilet paper manufacture it is huge. The pollution and significant power use from that manufacturing process also contributes to global warming so switching to a hand bidet sprayer and lowering your toilet paper use is very green in multiple ways. Blog; http://jeff9.livejournal.com/932.html

Note to self: buy some more toilet paper.

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To affect the quality of the poo, that is the art of life. ~Thoreau, sort of.

So I should stop winding the whole roll around my hand before I wipe?
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Earth, insane asylum for the universe.

C.E.P. said:"From now on I am only going to wipe my ass with the skins of endangered species".

Well son, I hate to inform you but I don't think there are that many republicans left.

There are some polls on wiping, and it seems one's method can make a difference. For the first wipe I use 4 sheets of single ply tp, folded; then I refold for a second pass. As my poops are soft, I usually need a second set of sheets (3 this time); again, after the first pass, I fold again and wipe again. If I need a third set of paper, I use 2 sheets, maybe 3. Total for that bowel movement: 10 sheets (maybe 9). Total b.m.'s needed to use up a 1000-sheet roll: 100 to 111. Even if I have 2 b.m.'s a day (which happens maybe twice a week now), it takes me, by myself, a month and a half to use up a roll, more likely 2 to 2.5 months. My wife uses slightly more than I do, but not much. We don't buy tp very often, and when we do, it's not Charmin.

Krist almighty. We're supposed to wipe after taking a dump? When did this happen? You folks are just kidding me, aren't you?
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Yo quiero Taco Bell.

Nope Deja, apparently this little fad has been around now for a while. It'll pass.

I wouldn't wipe shit off my hand with paper. I also wouldn't wipe with paper if I had to make my peanut butter/jelly sammich with my buttcheeks.

Cannabem liberemus!

Heck yeah, Deja, I thought that's what underwear was for.

Cannabem liberemus!