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Berlin fails to think ahead

Posted 06.08.2006 by GottaGoGirl
300,000 people. One bathroom.

Business commuters, local travelers, tourists, and shoppers: you'll find ALL of them waiting to use the ONE set of toilets at the new central train station in Berlin. For the largest railway station in all of Europe, built at a cost of nearly $615 million dollars, you'd think the designers would have used their heads and put in more, well, heads. Women in particular have been complaining about the long lines, and a spokesman for the station said that they're working as quickly as possible to build a "second" set of toilets.

A "second" set? For 300,000 people a day? It's not mentioned how many stalls either the existing or the planned washrooms have, but Berlin is a busy crossroads; the station is filled with people at all times of the day and night. Is even "another" set of toilets going to be enough? That place is HUGE! What were they thinking?

(Editor's note: And how about this. Coincidence?)

This lack of lavs poses an interesting design question: how many bathrooms do 300,000 people actually need? For comparison, here's an article about Grand Central Terminal in New York: 700,000 people, 32 women's toilets. (It doesn't say how many there are for men.)

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The Dumpster (2506) -- 06.08.2006

Germans can go real efficiently.

Lame comment! -2 points
Northy (107) -- 06.08.2006

At the end of the day they're only Germans! Just like they gassed people in the war, they can gas themselves in the tiny bathroom. No picking a different one because of the smell.

GottaGoGirl (2615) -- 06.08.2006

Wow. That was harsh. I had all kinds of things I was going to say, but it would derail the thread. Let's just say: That was harsh.

The Dumpster (2506) -- 06.08.2006

VERY harsh, Northy. Shame on you.

daphne (3522) -- 06.08.2006

Northy, not only are most of the people in Berlin alive now in no way connected with WW2, but many of the East Germans I met while stationed there really awesome people. They were oppressed by their government, too. One of my best friends from East Germany had to go to special schools like orphanages, and because her parents didn't buy her shoes when she needed them, she had to wear shoes too small for a whole year. She now has feet trouble, not unlike how Geishas are forced at a young age to have "Lotus foot". She had it harsh. And so was your comment. Shit, I digress again.

Back to topic, this is surprising, that such a big undertaking would have such a snafu. In the Frankfurt airport, I can think of 3 restrooms off the top of my head just by one of the restaurants. They had restrooms everywhere. You'd think that European architecture would mirror other successes? I'm not sure, haven't studied architecture since college.


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Double Flush (597) -- 06.09.2006

When it comes down to it, we all need a toilet at some point. I believe they should add lots more bathrooms or make the addition really huge. For that many people, you'd think someone would have more toilets available.

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toiletterror (3) -- 06.12.2006

Those innovative Germans. There's probably a train that comes into that station every day to provide as a reliever for the overworked toilets. And they probably have to double-time it over there before a Swede, a Brit, and a German all have to take a heif at the same time.

Double Flush (597) -- 06.12.2006

While that may work, I honestly don't believe I'd want to poop in a train toilet. I've done it before and it's not all that great, to be honest.

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Northy (107) -- 06.12.2006

I apologise for my comment above if it caused offense to anyone. It must be an English thing as eventhough the war was 60years ago it is still something we Brits bring up whenever possible. Just look at the World Cup - the English fans have bought war helmets and toy spitfires to take to games as memorabilia of the competition - JUST BECAUSE ITS IN GERMANY. Look back at previous competitions, songs ands plane motions were done towards the Germans from the English so eventhough people say that there is no hatred anymore - there actually is.

The Shit Volcano (3737) -- 06.12.2006

Double Flush, for a traumatic experience while crapping in a train toilet, just wait for my newest adventure! It should come out soon.

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So I told Katrina that I love Cajun and so she said, "I'll have to give that a try."
That was a disaster in the making.
After all was said and done, I said, "I meant Cajun FOOD not Cajuns themselves!"
Unfortunately, by that point she'd already told Rita.

berlmeister (5) -- 06.12.2006

Why not rent some portajohns?

The Dumpster (2506) -- 06.12.2006

Northy, it was noble for you to apologize, and, your being British offers at least some explanation for the way you feel, if still no excuse. Problem is, people need to get over things, especially things based on race prejudice. This is the problem in the Middle East today, as well as many other trouble spots in the world.

Here in America, our own President Harry Truman's mother was such an unreconstructed Confederate that, when Truman became President, she refused to ever set foot in the Lincoln Bedroom when she was a guest in the White House!

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Double Flush (597) -- 06.12.2006

Sadly, I am used to seeing and hearing prejudice. It's sad, to be honest. But I digress.
I can see putting some portajohns there as a solution for now, but seriously, some more permanent facilities need to be added.

I'm looking forward to your story, TSV. I like what stories you already have.

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Thunderbox (824) -- 06.29.2006

Dumpster, at least Harry Truman`s mother stuck to her principles, right or wrong.

Being American, you guys don`t really understand the rivalry that exists between countries in Europe. We are all so different, not just in language, but character, humour and ethics. All stemming from the many wars we`ve had between us over hundreds of years.

We have several thousands of football fans at the moment who have had their passports taken off them and who have to report into the local police station during the World Cup in Germany due to their "aggressive" behaviour in previous European away and home games. We treat all these foreign fixtures in a way as an extension of the many wars we had with each other over the past millenium.

It`s not just Germany, but Holland, Belgium, France, Italy, Greece, Spain, Portugal, etc., the best is at home between England and Scotland. We never forget the battles in the past with England, and always try to renew them at football matches.

That`s the way it is.

GottaGoGirl (2615) -- 06.29.2006

Box, I think I understand a little.

Said of the Duke of Cumberland, after the Jacobite Rising of 1745 (and subsequent cleansing): "He created a desert and called it peace."

Gotta love those Brits: Civility by means of a bludgeon.

Thunderbox (824) -- 06.29.2006

You got it GGG - gunboat diplomacy!

The Dumpster (2506) -- 06.29.2006

"Peace in our time"--Neville Chamberlain

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Northy (107) -- 07.01.2006

I couldn't have explained it better Thunderbox, although I doubt any football match between the English and the Scots can be anything like the England Vs Ireland a few years back when the game had to be abandoned due to hooliganism. I still laugh when I see the footage.

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