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Brown Trout Obode Needlessly Cleaned Up

Posted 07.02.2010 by ChiefThunderbutt
California is spending $30,000 to clean up something that may not really need cleaning up. It seems that some dastardly person has dumped old tires and commodes into the waters off Malibu. This is actually done intentionally in other parts of the world including in the coastal waters of the southeast United States in order to create artificial reefs that encourage the propagation of many sea creatures.

Wikipedia says:

"An *artificial reef* is a human-made underwater structure, typically built for the purpose of promoting marine life in areas of generally featureless bottom. Artificial reefs may also serve to improve hydrodynamics for surfing or to control beach erosion.

Artificial reefs can be built by a number of different methods. Many reefs are built by deploying existing materials in order to create a reef. This can be done by sinking oil rigs (through the Rigs-to-Reef program), scuttling ships, or by deploying rubble, tires, or construction debris."

The commodes and tires will be taken to a landfill for proper disposal. I fail to see how burying these otherwise useful objects is such a great solution to what appears to be a non-problem. Just think of all the delicious sea urchins, *octopuses, and the occasional brown trout that will be deprived of homes by this cleanup.

Take all that other trash that poses a danger to sea life but leave those tires and crappers where they can do some good.

*Fowler's Modern English Usage states that "the only acceptable plural in English is octopuses", and that octopi is misconceived and oktopodes pedantic. Octopi derives from the mistaken notion that octopus is Latin. It is not. It is Latinized Greek, from oktopous, gender masculine, whose plural is oktopodes. If the word were Latin, it would be octopes (eight feet) and the plural octopedes, analogous to centipedes and millipedes, as the plural form of pes (foot) is pedes.

I certainly hope this clears things up a bit for everyone.

Show some poop support, or make a poop retort.
Thunderbox (1616) -- 07.03.2010

I think it`s fair to say that almost anything dumped in the sea will eventually be colonised by some kind of sea creatures. It has always been the case so far.

Anonymous Coward (not verified) -- 07.03.2010

Actually the tires make poor reefs. In Florida, very little growth as occurred on them. Over time, the tires have broken loose, and are causing damage to the natural reef.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-02-17-florida-reef_x.htm

Commodore Schmidlap (not verified) -- 07.03.2010

The toilets(300) and tires were dumped on a reef. Garbage like this damages reefs and kelp beds.

The area where the toilets were tossed is under consideration by the state to be designated as a marine protected area.

http://news.topwirenews.com/2010/05/27/malibu-california-pollution-cleanup_201005276793.html

ChiefThunderbutt (3727) -- 07.04.2010

There are pros and cons to everything and while I agree that old tires may not be the best material from which to construct artificial reefs I can see nothing wrong with using inert materials like ceramics.

Look at the artificial reefs that abound in and around the islands of Micronesia, most of them were constructed unintentionally from sunken ships and crashed planes during WW-2. Today the biodiversity that flourishes in and about these wrecks is a feast for the eyes of SCUBA divers and, since reefs are the nurseries of the sea, many feasts of a more substantial sort are provided to the natives of these scattered islands.

Some countries are sinking ships intentionally to provide habitat for sea life.


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Commodore Schmidlap (not verified) -- 07.04.2010

The toilets and tires were dumped on a REEF. If you want to create a REEF you don't dump stuff on a REEF, you dump it where there is no subsurface structure.

ChiefThunderbutt (3727) -- 07.04.2010

But if your goal is to enlarge an existing reef and provide more cover for sea life????


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Deja Poo (1235) -- 07.06.2010

Speaking of drilling rig reefs, I was wondering what was going to happen with the wreckage of the Deepwater Horizon. I know that it's in a mile of water, but maybe some goo can come from it on the sea bed. Or is a mile down just too deep?
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ChiefThunderbutt (3727) -- 07.06.2010

Good question Deja ... I am not an oceanographer but I imagine that some deep dwelling sea creature will find a nook or cranny to its liking and set up housekeeping.


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Bran Lover (802) -- 07.13.2010

One wonders if the tires and commodes were sticking up out of the water. Malibuians don't take kindly to stuff messing up their watery views. Hmmm... or is that Malibi? Maliboes? Malibipeds? Malipusses? I'm so confused!
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Bran Lover (802) -- 07.13.2010

Malibipodes, maybe?
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Thunderbox (1616) -- 07.13.2010

Quite a few people here are thinking very short-termist in their views. Think of the Tethys Sea, Gondwanaland etc etc.

We, as humans, will be here for such a short time (I mean from our beginning to extinction) that it`s pointless us arguing about species dying off - even as we are finding hundreds of new ones in Borneo etc.

How many species have come and gone before we were even here as we are? We should never let ourselves get too arrogant - we will probably, as homo sapiens, be one of the most short lived species ever to have lived on earth.

Our efforts to save a few other species are pointless. More will come along, specially after we`ve all gone. But we may leave a reef of our own for other kinds as a leaving present.

So, all you rabid conservationists need not be alarmed....calm down and let the rest of us shoot deer and rabbits and the like as we want. All will be well with the world.

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