The Aussies have a credo of "If you don't like the Aussie way - Fuck Off" which I normally agree with; perhaps they're taking it too far this time. I'd agree if he'd taken the tea-room kettle in the kharzi with him!

I was in Air Force basic training in Biloxi Mississippi with a guy who regularly cleaned his butt by holding the flush handle with one hand while scrubbing his hole with the other hand. He washed his hand at the sink later but I still made it a habit to avoid eating at the chow hall on days he was pulling KP. In case you UK blokes are unfamiliar with KP it is a shortened version of Kitchen Police and means you perform menial tasks in the kitchen, such as peeling spuds, washing dishes, etc..

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You know, I always wondered what those "sports bottle" caps on the water were actually for. I guess you could use what you need for your ass and finish the rest while on the treadmill.

You know, that wouldn't be too easy to do. Either he would have to squeeze really hard or he would have to bend in such a way as to hang his head below the knees and ass over the seat. Then squeeze and try not to get shit water up (down?) his nose. Ugh.

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Nine Inch Log.....That's what buddies are for!

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Maybe I'm unfamiliar with the particulars but how does just pouring water down the trench get the poop off? Doesn't there need to be some friction? I mean with a bidet there's pressure to knock the poop off.
But yeah, what you do in the crapper is your business, no matter how unfamiliar the tecnique
may be.

I don't which part of the PI he was from, but in Manila, everyplace I went had toilet paper. The only viable geometry that I can think of would be for him to use his hand and the water at the same time. If he's doing that, then he needs to be fired as a health threat, especially if he has to share hand tools or some other kind of common equipment with his co-workers. The last thing I would want is to use implements that he's had his shit water hands all over.
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Maybe his fellow employees can chip in and buy him a squirt gun.

Deja Poo.....I would imagine that if a hand were well scrubbed after wiping sans paper it would be acceptably sanitary. This is the standard in much of the world.

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It's funny that you should write that, Chief. The supposition is that he thoroughly washes his hands after every bowel movement. What about on the days that he's too hung over to care? And what about getting shit under the fingernails? No amount of scrubbing is going to get all of the shit out from underneath your nails, take it from somebody who has changed alot of shitty diapers in his lifetime.

I would also wonder what kind of soap he's using. Is he using that pathetic pink stuff that's in most company's bathrooms or is he using a special disinfectant soap? Or does he just run his hands under the water and then dry them off?

No, besides firing and not using that company's products there only seems to be two ways to mitigate the spread of shit borne diseases: either force the employee to don latex gloves after visiting the crapper or requiring him to wash his hands with sulfuric acid.
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doesn't anyone ever wonder what people did before the existance of toilet paper???
hahahahaha
and lets not even begin to discuss the issue of hand hygiene....because i certainly don't have all day....lets just say what we all don't know hasn't hurt us so far....unless you recently contracted hep c from a diner where the cook didn't wash his hands

New meaning to the concept, don't ask, don't tell

He works at Townsville Engineering Industries, and it looks like a textile mill.

Here's something interesting on their front page website - they have posted two links to letters to the editor that weren't published.

Letter One

Letter Two

It seems there is a controversey brewing. Maybe a spokesperson from the company would be willing to reply to an email I sent earlier in the hopes that someone would issue us a statement.

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I thought that this might be an interesting one. It`s really all about culture clashes. I lived in the middle east for years where everyone used water instead of TP.

They were fastidious about cleaning their hands after crapping (and even if they had a piss). That`s also why the custom in muslim countries, and a lot of other people, is only to eat with the right hand as the left is the one used for wiping/washing the asshole. Common sense really.

Also, if you think about it, TP is very thin (no matter the quality and number of plies) and it`s guaranteed that fecal matter or particles will pass through the paper onto your hands -why else would you wash your hands after.

I`ve eaten many, many meals with groups of Arab friends eating with one hand from communal bowls and have never had any health problems.

Exactly T-box.....I have read that hand washing is taken much more seriously in countries that eat with their hands. I have a Filipino friend here in Nashville who hosts some great feasts and quite often there will be as many as twenty Filipinos shoveling food into their faces with their right hands. I have never followed them into the bathroom to observe their wiping habits but I have never suffered any digestive distress after a meal.

I would worry much more about the very high percentage of Americans who leave the bathroom without any washing at all. Checked around on a few websites and discovered that Aussies are even worse than we Yanks when it comes to post poop hand washing. I almost passed on from bacterial pneumonia several years ago and I have made hand washing one of my top priorities.

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From the letters in Daphne's post it seems the company is not so concerned with the method of arsewiping as with the collateral damage to the surrounding area; probably this is caused by the mixing of two cultures - hand/water not being compatible with western sit down crappers.
Certainly if the guy is leaving the bog not in the state he found it (?) he should have been given the heave-ho if he wouldn't clean it.
Where's Mullet when you need him?

I say cut off his hand next time he does it. He'll learn after a couple of times.

I`m pretty sure that the Mullet once mentioned that he managed an engineering works....

In Bhagavad Gita The Oldest and most translated book of philosophy in the world it is stated that all orifaces of the body washed with water are thus illumined with knowledge!
Any other practise is in the mode of ignorance.

Maybe the hand to ass washing method is best used with the squat type toilets where all fecal matter falls into it. The western style toilets have a much smaller "target area" and are harder to clean.

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I will ask the nurse that trained me in dialysis if she washes butt after a poo. She is filipino. I wish we had a better way than tp because my tender ass gets ripped up by tp because it's as delicate as a daisy. I really really really wanted a bidet, but it couldn't happen.
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Fucking gross. He can keep the pen.

I wonder why the newspaper didn't publish the two letters the company sent. Maybe, could it be because they had already published something without first going to the company for its side?

I have to say, regardless of whether someone used water or toilet paper - if I was a manager of a mill and constantly was hearing that one of the employees was leaving a spattered mess on the floor with wet toilet paper all over the place and refused to clean it up, I would also give that person an ultimatum. Clean it up or find another job. The question her may be did he really make this mess?

I wish the company would reply.

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I truely believe we have better reporters on PR, than on any major newspaper.

Mr. Bernabe, to win your lawsuit and win the hearts of dozens, I implore you to invoke the "Men At Work Defense" and inform the esteemed court that you "Bum Flush the Land Down Under".

Ah, it's the old 'if you took a shit, they must acquit' defense.

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I think about Mr. Bernabe now when I am grappling to get my blowhole clean in a public restroom.
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I wonder why people always defend one person by saying "respect blah blahs culture". Yet don't see the person isn't respecting the culture of the current place that they are in.
Here is another article, apparently he didn't have good cleaning habits while leaving.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,,24968881-1248,00.html

I say "Employee Health" trumps. "I sprinkle water on my head after I poo" cultural beliefs.

To be really clean, just use hand santizer in the push bottle. That will clean things and also illustrate the advantage of using TP.

Hand sanitizer is all very well, but I understand that it has to be used copiously and for a long time (a minute or so) to be effective. Soap and water is better for the hands, as long as that combo is used long enough to work (at least 20 seconds). I have learned to wash diligently in any bathroom after pooping or peeing, simply because everything touchable in a public restroom has been touched by persons who may not even have wiped, let alone washed their hands. Dangerous business, being out in public.

I must use a urinary catheter because of bladder problems so I both was my hands and use sanitizer to avoid urinary tract infections. Most sanitizers claim to kill 99.99% of most bacteria in 15 seconds. A small squirt is all it takes, just enough to wet you hands. So far I have had good luck with this combination.

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Avoid putting your finger in your eye if you use hand sanitizer. I invariably get it in my eye everytime.
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I also do that when I eat hot peppers. The worst thing is knowing it is happening but it is too late.
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Poothagoras.....For a real thrill try inserting a urinary catheter after mincing habanero chilies. It doesn't matter how many times you wash your hands, it is a real eye opener. I have learned to keep latex gloves handy for these occasions.

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