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Will geese run from the runs?

Posted 08.25.2006 by GottaGoGirl
The Chicago Park District has a problem with geese on the lawn in its famous Grant Park. The animals are snacking on grass in Butler Field -- and leaving their mark behind. University of Illinois at Chicago biologist Dr. Joel Brown said in March that geese defecate every seven to ten minutes, and that over the course of the year, 750 pounds of droppings can be expected from an individual goose. That is more than two pounds per day PER GOOSE!

To combat the problem, the Park District sprayed two hundred gallons of a digestive irritant across the field. The chemical is safe for humans, but gives geese diarrhea within twenty minutes. The hope is that the geese will get the message and find someplace else to play Duck, Duck.

Does a goose even KNOW if it has diarrhea? Does a goose even care? Is this humane? Where is PETA and the ASPCA on this? This PoopReporter wonders where the geese will go (and GO) if shooed away from the parkland. Are they just going to end up pooping all over the city?

The question has also been raised (well, by Dave, when he alerted us to this article) as to whether this technique would work on humans. It doesn't work with Taco Bell, White Castle or Kentucky Fried Chicken, THAT'S for sure -- or else the site would be short some content! One wonders whether sprinkling diarrhetic where homeless people congregate would solve another common park problem. Would that be worse than doing it to geese? Perhaps the police could use such a thing to break up mob-scenes: just sprinkle the crowd with poopy-powder, and pretty soon the preponderance of poop problems would scuttle the predicament.

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Hu Flung Dung (90) -- 08.25.2006

I'm not really sure if that'll be really effective. All of the bird shit I've ever encountered has had a fairly runny consistency in the first place, with very little , if any, solid matter. How are these geese to kow that they have the squirts if that's all they ever defecate?
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SamDamnit (1196) -- 08.25.2006

In humans, diarrhea is one of the leading killers. I wonder if it is the same with birds. This could end up being a mASSacre.
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Fart Poopie (1258) -- 08.25.2006

I don't understand how you can tell when a bird gets diarrhea either. All they do is liqui-poo. I wonder if they just said it gives them diarrhea to make the cramping and severe intestinal distress these birds will go through sound a bit nicer than it really is.

Dave (11977) -- 08.25.2006

Goose poo is definetly more solid than normal bird poo. They're like little long and narrow logs, a centimeter in diamater and a few inches long. The were the scourge of a park near my house growing up -- the field would be absolutely covered in it. You couldn't take a step.

I agree with GGG -- will the birds know that they've got the squirts? And will they connect that with where they're eating? If so, then they're a lot smarter than me... I keep on going back for more Indian food.

Bunga Din (1238) -- 08.25.2006

Great report GGG! I golf, way too often and the courses up here have serious problems with geese populations (so do the parks, so stand down Daphne).

Anyways the big issue seems to be we screwed up the balance back in the 40's,50'sand 60's with the use of DDT. Geese rebounded much faster than the predators of geese and now we are paying for our ignorance.

Goose shit is nasty, as Dave mentioned it is much more solid than other bird poop (looks like a small cat turd) and a flock can easily "coat" an area within an hour, but geese are resilient and will not feed in areas where hazards exist (they won't eat near dead geese, or where threats prevail), so I imagine the biologist as described above has studied sufficiently and concluded that diahrretic feed will curtail their despoiling of parklands.

If he's wrong at least my divots will be smoother and less explosive than normal.

GottaGoGirl (2615) -- 08.25.2006

Wow. Next time I'm going to collaborate with Bunga!
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daphne (4391) -- 08.26.2006

I collected goose poop and Canadian goose poop for two years. Goose poop is smelly, loose, and a green sort of mess than smells very bad and is very loose. It loses its liquid form when the earth absorbs the loose water, thus making it what it was when it went into the goose, which was feed, water, and mostly seeds. It stinks, too.

Geese poop whenever. They poop when eating most often, as I've seen when feeding them meal worms. They poop when eating bird feed. They poop when they are swimming. They, however, do not poop when running all over the place. It's almost as if their bodies can't do everything at once.

To suggest giving them the runs is ridiculous. It's moronic. I fear that the end result will be other animals eating the poop and then getting sick themselves. If this works, it's beyond my comprehension and experience.

I'd rather see these city parks put aside land that encouraged the geese to land and eat, land that had feed, mealworms, and whatever else would redirect the geese to park. That way, maybe the geese would look over the "people" part of the park.

What a concept. I so pray I'm wrong.


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SamDamnit (1196) -- 08.26.2006

Is this where the term "loosey goosey" comes from?
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Thunderbox (1357) -- 08.26.2006

Someone has to ask this daphne - what did you do with your 2 year collection of goose shit?

Perhaps an art installation?

If you`ld done that here, you`ld have made millions.

larfus (not verified) -- 08.27.2006

Theres nothing like flying geese with the squirts.

Cyanocobalamin (57) -- 08.31.2006

It seems that Canadian geese poop out at least twice as much as they eat. This must be breaking some poop physics law.

Double Flush (626) -- 08.31.2006

Perhaps their poop is half as dense as their food. Unless they are measuring the weight of the poop vs. food, meaning there's a problem...

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Thunderbox (1357) -- 08.31.2006

Do what we do - shoot them, and put what you can`t eat in the freezer for later. Mmmmmm.....delicious.

Bunga Din (1238) -- 08.31.2006

Actually Thunderbox has stumbled on something I wanted to bring up earlier but was hesitant to. The British imported the Canada goose between 250-300 years ago. The geese they imported are NOT migratory (they stay year round). The problem is this bird is NOT native to this area and is now upsetting the ecology for other winged species. The population has exploded from around 5000 in the 1950's to over 45,000 today. The lack of predators for this goose means culls are the only sensible method of allowing other winged species not to be pushed to the brink of extinction by this imported pest.

One thing we never seem to learn is that we fuck around with nature (importing/exporting species) and expect things to work out in the end, it never does. Sensible management when herds/flocks grow due to our initial meddling are the only way to hope to obtain some semblance of balance. The longer we ignore a problem the worse it get, hey they may be majestic looking and beautiful to watch flying in V formation but when you have other species disappearing and geese trying to live all year round in your pool it's time to take action. A couple others on my hit list...zebra mussels and round goby.

Double Flush (626) -- 08.31.2006

Maybe you should open a restaurant that sells goose for not very much.

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Bunga Din (1238) -- 08.31.2006

Not a bad idea, maybe I'd call it "Your goose is cooked".

GottaGoGirl (2615) -- 09.01.2006

HAH ha ha ha ha! Great name! But is Canada goose an edible species of goose?

I know in Australia, they've been eating kangas for a lot of the same reasons.

daphne (4391) -- 09.01.2006

Bunga, if you truly feel this, I expect you to join Defenders of Wildlife tomorrow, because their insistence of bringing back the wolf and cougar to areas over run with game is essential.


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GottaGoGirl (2615) -- 09.01.2006

I was reading something like that regarding the Preserve behind our neighborhood. People wanted to get rid of all the coyotes, since they prey on our cats.

But the point was made that it was only the coyotes that were keeping down the population of rabbits, gophers, mice, and most importantly (to squeamish homeowners) rats.

That shut them up. Long Live The Predators!

SamDamnit (1196) -- 09.01.2006

Perhaps a restaraunt that serves goose poop, is in order.
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Anomalous Coward (728) -- 09.01.2006

Yum yum. Goose shit flambe with a side order of shit sorbet.

Frank2401 (204) -- 08.25.2007

goose poop, yuck! SamDamnit, the only people who would go to that restaraunt are the "starnge people".

The Thunderous ... (741) -- 08.25.2007

Has anyone ever seen seagull shit? It literally eats thru the paint finish on cars. As far as goose diahreah goes hmmmmm well if they dont fart or dont know they are farting how could they make a distinktion between a good solid B.M. and the runs?
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