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A passenger, a pilot, and pee in a barf bag

Posted 03.22.2007 by The Big Wiper
Airplane lavatories have never been a bargain. They're claustrophobic, they frequently trap and retain odors in between passenger visits, and they're often occupado at the most inopportune times. As anyone who has flown on a regular basis well knows, it's best to relieve yourself (whether #1 or #2) before boarding to avoid dealing with these inadequate facilities. Still, it's nice to know the lavatories are there when you need them.

Except when they're not. On March 7th, James Whipple boarded a SkyWest Airlines flight from Boise to Salt Lake City with a couple of hefty mugs of beer in his system. But although he had relieved himself before boarding, nature urgently called him again during the one-hour flight. The problem was that the pilot had deemed the restroom off-limits due to the fact that "a light wasn't working." So, seeing no other recourse, Whipple discreetly urinated into an air sickness bag.

The act was not witnessed by any of the other passengers. A flight attendant saw it, though, and she reported Whipple's conduct to the pilot, who then radioed ahead to the Salt Lake City Airport police. Whipple was detained for questioning.

And then he was sent home in a taxi. SkyWest Airlines later issued an apology to Whipple along with a voucher for a free flight.

In this story of airplane bathroom folly, I find both the airline and the passenger equally culpable. It's not that I begrudge the man his couple of beers. And he even took the precaution of relieving himself before departure. But the last thing I'd do, given the reality of airline facilities, would be to tempt fate the way he did. In his case, before peeing into a bag, I might have taken the flight attendant into my urgent confidence, asking if he or she would mind accompanying me to the back of the plane and then turning away to screen my activity from any possible prying eyes.

But by tattling on the passenger, I'm not sure the attendant exercised the sort of discretion and compassion they are trained to routinely demonstrate. And wasn't the pilot being a bit anal retentive about "a light not working" as a reason for restricting lavatory use? I'm assuming this wasn't a situation that threatened the safety of the passengers or the crew. So why be so militant?

In any case, SkyWest Airlines' apology certainly seems appropriate, considering that no passengers were subjected to anything X-rated. Sometimes, it seems, the skies just aren't all that friendly.

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DungDaddy (1460) -- 03.22.2007

I'm glad he peed in the bag. The pilot thought he could just turn off everyone's body functions by pronouncing the lav out of order. Good thing nobody had the shits...

The Big Wiper (2287) -- 03.22.2007

The short duration of the flight (one hour) must have been the pilot's rationale. But there are people with bladder (and bowel) problems who, unfortunately, can't operate on a timeclock.

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Thunderbox (1379) -- 03.22.2007

The solution before all the new airline security rules would be simple.

It`s not called a cockpit for nothing - you would have just strolled on up to the front opened the cockpit door, pointed your cock into the pit and hosed down the pilot for being such a fuckwit.

Anal About Poop (240) -- 03.22.2007

What I'm wondering is how this passenger "discreetly" pulled his shlong out with out any of the other passengers seeing it. Anybody that rides coach knows that you're packed in like sardines. Maybe he pulled the tray table down for privacy.

Dave (11977) -- 03.22.2007

Good point, AAP. Also: what did he do with his paper bag full of urine?

Deja Poo (999) -- 03.22.2007

He probably used it to keep his Gin Rummy score.
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Deja Poo - Because this shit's so strange, it couldn't ever have happened before.

The Dumpster (2507) -- 03.22.2007

I agree with TBW. The passenger should have conveyed the urgency of his situation to the flight attendant, and surely something could have been improvised.

Man, I hate flying these days! What is it Samuel Johnson said about sea voyages being like "going to prison, with a chance of getting drowned"? Well, flying today is just like going to prison, period. Hell, even worse! At least prisoners get to go to the can when they need to.

Maybe the guy should have taken a cue from the lady astronaut and worn a diaper on the flight.

Bunga Din (1238) -- 03.22.2007

Good report TBW.

I've been on a couple of flights that had many empty seats. On a flight to Moncton N.B. I was the only passenger in the last three rows and was able to enjoy the flight fully reclined along three seats and drink a bottle of scotch I'd stashed in my carry on luggage. I'm sure had I wanted to I could have peed into a barf bag and not been seen.

These days airlines are much more concerned for passenger safety and try to weed out the drinkers from boarding as we've all seen how unruly some people can get. It was good customer service of the airline to issue the apology but in hindsight they might want to have announced that anyone needing to use the facilities contact one of the flight attendants.

The Big Wiper (2287) -- 03.22.2007

My best guess as to why Whipple's emergency piddle wasn't witnessed by other passengers would be that the flight had lots of empty seats. Perhaps he was able to retreat to an empty row or was already seated in one.

BTW, wasn't Mr. Whipple always squeezing the Charmin?

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Dave (11977) -- 03.22.2007

I'm going to reimagine the course of action for a second. I think it's unlikely that a flight attendant would notice someone peeing in his seat, especially if no one else did. More than likely, James peed in his barf bag, and then sheepishly approached the flight attendant.

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"Do you have somewhere I can throw this away?" he asked, brandishing the bulging barf bag.

"Oh, you poor dear! Were you sick?" she asks with professional concern.

"No," he admits. "I had to pee, and the bathroom was off-limits..."

"THERE'S PEE IN THAT BAG?" gasps the flight attendant as the person standing in front of her morphs in her mind from a mild-mannered run-of-the-mill passenger to a maniac who runs around a plane with a bag of his own pee.
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That's enough to freak out even the most grizzled veteran of the friendly, non-pee drenched skies. Since this was the Boise-to-Salt-Lake run, it was probably a small plane, and she was probably the only attendant on board. She called the captain because she wanted him aware of a potential nutjob, and he called the cops because protocol probably tells him to do just that.

From that perspective, I say that SkyWest is a hero for simply admitting its mistake and saying sorry. These days you can get arrested for anything, because if you *had been* a terrorist than you *could have* killed people. To quote Boston Assistant Attorney General John Grossman after the Aqua Teen Hunger Force farce: "If they had been explosive, they could have damaged transportation infrastructure in [Boston]."

So if it *had been* liquid anthrax, it *could have* killed everyone on board. Whipple's lucky that people with common sense still exist in law enforcement and corporate America. In Utah, anyway.

Dave (11977) -- 03.22.2007

Actually, I just found a Salt Lake Tribune article that goes into a lot more detail.

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"I really had to go. I kept asking three or four times, 'may I use the bathroom?' She kept telling me no. The fourth time I asked, we were in final descent [into Salt Lake], which was her excuse," Whipple said.

Whipple said there didn't seem to be anything wrong with the bathroom when he used it earlier.

"She [the attendant] acted like we were all cattle and she wanted her shift done," Whipple said.

The airplane wasn't full, Whipple said. Nobody was seated next to him, and the closest passenger was across the aisle in a window seat. So he unzipped his pants, covered himself and urinated into the bag. He closed the bag and laid it on the seat beside him.

The attendant, who had been sitting in a jump seat as the plane descended, confronted Whipple. She asked if he had relieved himself. Whipple replied he had.

"I wasn't trying to hide anything," he said.

The attendant then telephoned the captain. When the plane reached the terminal, Whipple was asked to stay on board while the other passengers got off. A policewoman entered the jet and escorted him to the tarmac, where more than a dozen officers were waiting. Some of the officers questioned the attendant. Other police spoke to passengers. Some said they had seen nothing. One passenger said Whipple wasn't abusive or belligerent.

Whipple was taken to a police station at Salt Lake City International Airport. He said he asked to take a sobriety test, which showed his blood alcohol content was 0.08 percent, which is considered legally impaired. After two hours, he took a taxi home. No charges were filed.

The Big Wiper (2287) -- 03.22.2007

Thanks for the detailed article and info, Dave-O. The flight attendant sounds like she needs to get another job.

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Fart Poopie (1258) -- 03.22.2007

That attendant was taking the captain's order way too seriously. What did she expect this guy to do?

What if it had been a little 5 year old who needed to pee? Or an old lady? Would she have made an exception for them?

Here's an idea. If the light is broken in the lav, have the flight attendant give passengers a flashlight before going in there.

Bunga Din (1238) -- 03.22.2007

Fart Poopie, a flashlight could be considered a weapon. You could unscrew the top, take the reflector plate and fashion it as a crude blade while using the battery encased light as a truncheon. This sounds crazy but the way things have been going airline safety wise nothing seems too crazy for some government department to get all in a huff about.

Mary Queen of Scats (389) -- 03.22.2007

That flight attendant reminds me of my third grade teacher. You know, the one who wouldn't let anyone out of the room even if there was a fire drill because it was "a waste of her time."

She was a bitch too.

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Fart Poopie (1258) -- 03.22.2007

You could go through all that trouble to use a flashlight as a weapon... or you could just hit someone with it. ;-)

The Big Wiper (2287) -- 03.22.2007

I also think Mr. Whipple could have figured out how to take out his equipment and aim it into the silver bowl in the dark. There's no room to turn around in those lavs. So how could he miss?

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Bilgepump (2776) -- 03.22.2007

Screw the bag, I'd have rolled down the window and pissed all over Salt Lake City.

Deja Poo (999) -- 03.22.2007

Good Idea, BP. Maybe you could open the bomb bay doors and dump all over SLC while you're at it.

While I understand the some of the wild stretches of imagination that get used by law enforcement officials these days in the name of homeland security, pissing anthrax is a real whopper. Sure, piss can be construed as a bio-hazard at some level, but anthrax?
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Fart Poopie (1258) -- 03.24.2007

Hey, now. Don't hate on SLC and surrounding areas. I live around there, and I'd appreciate not having pee raining down on me.

Anonymous Indian (not verified) -- 03.24.2007

Flashlight as a weapon? I am reminded of a flight where the security officers was very strict on items allowed in the hand baggage. They confiscated everything remotely sharp, even small safety pins. Later, during the flight they served us food and the silverware cutlery included spoons, forks and knives. Anyone could have used a fork or a knife to highjack the plane or cause bodily harm. So much for the so-called security measures.

ScattyBrained (not verified) -- 03.24.2007

I know some pilots who fly mine charters in Australia, and the planes have no toilets or flight attendants, even though some flights are over two hours. The miners often have a few drinks before they fly home and often need to pee on the way home so they just pee in the barf bags. The pilots don't mind as long as they take the bags with them when they leave and throw them in the bin. The cleaners get pretty annoyed if they leave them on the plane though!

KesAFloyd (96) -- 03.24.2007

It never really occurred to me that a barf bag would be so leak-proof that it could contain urine, but I guess it would have to be since a lot of barf is just stomach acid + flakes.

I remember a story that my mom told me once about a guy who brought a can of beans onto an airplane, dumped it into a barf bag, and then started to eat the contents of the bag in front of everyone.

The Big Wiper (2287) -- 03.24.2007

Sounds like the kind of fellow who would then have made loud, retching sounds and discreetly dropped a sheet of plastic vomit on the floor.

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werewolf poopin... (101) -- 03.25.2007

That reminds me of a book I read ("Just Joking" by Andy Griffiths, if anyone's interested) where a guy has to sit next to an old lady on a plane so he sneaks corn relish into the barf bag and then makes a big show of eating it and rubbing it in his hair to gross her out, only to find out that the old lady was blind and had no idea what he was doing. I don't think the story is true, but if someone could manage to do that, I would think peeing in the barf bag could go unseen. As they say in the Harry Potter books: "they don't notice things happening right under their noses".

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...and they all lived crappily ever after!

daphne (4405) -- 03.25.2007

I'm surprised it never occurred to the air lines to keep those battery-operated little light discs available for such things. I'm sure you've all seen them. They usually come in groups of three and can be hung anywhere in the home. You push them to turn them on and off.

It would have been the thing to use.

This flight attendant sounds like a real asshole.


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Little Bunny Poo Poo (not verified) -- 03.26.2007

Just my two cents...I am an airline pilot. I don't fly for SkyWest, but I do fly for another regional airline. I can tell you that it wasn't the pilot's decision to make the lavatory "off limits."

The FAA outlines for every airline how to deal with inopertive equipment on the aircraft. If ANYTHING is not working properly, the whole thing is determined to be unusable. The airline also cannot just stick lights into lavs that are not working. It has to be fixed with FAA approved parts using an FAA approved procedure or it can't be used.

That being said, not often, but occasionally we do fly with the lav inoperative. Announcements are always made in the boarding area prior to departure warning passengers of the situation and to take care of things ahead of time.

As far as how the flight attendant handled the passenger, she probably did the best that she could at that moment. Did she overreact? Possibly, but without being there, it's hard to tell. Remember, the guy has admitted to having a couple of "hefty mugs of beer" and these flight attendants deal with obnoxious drunks all the time. Flight attendants are expected to keep the pilot advised of ANY unusual situations in the back and I would consider this unusual.

I also feel empathy for this guy. It sucks as a passenger when you really have to go! Maybe his mistake was breaking the seal before depature! This just sounds like a no-win situation.

Stop Making Sense (not verified) -- 11.26.2007

Erm, what if he couldn't "hold it." My wife has Multiple Sclerosis, and she cannot hold it once she has to pee. If she attempts to do so, the airline will need to have the seat cleaned! She does wear a protective pad, but who wants to sit in their own urine?

Mrs. Mad Crapper (1120) -- 03.22.2009

its not like he went to the front of the plane pulled his pants down and shit all over the place. Although that would have been highly amusing. I'm glad the airline realized they were being douches about it
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