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Planes and poops on final approach: which one gets clearance to land?

Posted 04.23.2007 by GottaGoGirl
"They'd probably be angry."

This is the answer given by a spokesman for the National Air Traffic Controllers Association, when asked how airline passengers would feel if they knew that their landing was delayed because the sole air traffic controller on duty had to take a dump.

Two airliners had to circle Manchester, New Hampshire, for eighteen minutes, and a plane ferrying human lungs for transplant was briefly delayed on Friday while the airport's lone controller took a bathroom break, the controller's union said. The union on Tuesday cited the incident as evidence that air traffic control facilities are understaffed.

"There should never be (only) one person in the tower, because it's not safe," said Doug Church, the NATC spokesman. "It's just added proof that the system is stretched to its limits, and these are the type of things that are happening."

Federal Aviation Administration officials responded that staffing is sufficient, that the bathroom break was handled in accordance with policy, and that travelers were not endangered or unduly inconvenienced. FAA spokesman Jim Peters states that "He was only gone for twelve minutes, so while there may have been a slight delay in the aircraft landing, certainly the controller did what he had to do."

During the controller's break, the Lifeguard flight pilot transporting the lungs radioed the tower and spoke to a trainee, who was not certified to conduct controller operations. The trainee told the pilot he would have to wait ten minutes for the controller to return. The pilot replied that he had "lungs on board," Church said. Peters acknowledged that the Lifeguard flight was told it had to wait ten minutes, but said there was no indication from the pilot that the delay would cause problems.

How would you feel about waiting in a flight pattern while the air traffic controller was on the crapper? I think I would rather wait a few more minutes in the air -- rather than have the guy in the tower trying to hold back a grogan while directing my plane's landing. Would PoopReporters agree? Or would you rather pay more for an airline ticket so that there would always be at least two controllers for every shift? What do you consider to be "unduly inconvenienced" -- especially when it involves someone having to poop?

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Anonymous Coward (not verified) -- 04.24.2007

I think I'd rather circle the airport for a few minutes than know my ATC has something else on his mind.

The Thunderous ... (660) -- 04.24.2007

I happen to agree with ya! Better to have a well rested and relieved ATC landing your plane than someone who keeps saying the mantra "Gotta take a dump" "Gotta take a dump." Obviously he does NOT have your planes best interest in mind when he has a dump at his assholes door. Let him circle a few he has enough fuel.
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The Thunderous Crapper 63 Enjoying home toilet advantage since 2004!

Toots N. McCrack (160) -- 04.24.2007

I agree with the above posts and views completely. I've been in understaffed work situations for about 10 years and it sucks to have to leave your post (you are not allowed to leave the animals in your care!) when you have to ask someone not qualified to cover you and it's all too obvious to others why and for how long you are gone, but a distracted mind does not make a good worker (neither does a shatten themselves worker for that matter!). Air traffic control is one place where I will not scrimp! An 18 minute wait? C'mon! Does it really make that much of a difference? It's not like the wait time was outrageous or was due to incompetence. Shit happens....

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'Hey that sounds pretty nasty, how about a courtesy flush over there?' (AP1)

Fart Poopie (1254) -- 04.24.2007

I bet you guys wouldn't be saying that if those lungs were meant for you. 10 minutes does make a difference when you're trying to get organs to a transplant patient.

There's no excuse for having only one certified controller on shift. What if he had an emergency of some sort and needed to go home or to the hospital? What if he had a heart attack one night? Who would cover him then? Would passengers and transplant patients have to wait over an hour until someone else could come in to cover the shift?

What if the crapper was broken on the plane, and several passengers (including you) had to go NOW? Would you appreciate knowing that you had to wait almost 20 minutes because the guy that's supposed to handle the landing is relieving himself?

It's reckless not to have two air traffic controllers handling each shift.

Bilgepump (1629) -- 04.24.2007

(static, crackle) Uh...United 47, hold at 15000 feet, got a heavy coming in hard and fast...(static, crackle)

(static, crackle) Uh Roger Tower...let us know how everything comes out, good luck (static, crackle)

Toots N. McCrack (160) -- 04.24.2007

Fart Poopie, that WAS one of my concerns-- but thought my comments were running too long to include it. Yes! It IS horrible to think of what all could delay a plane (and for how long) if something really serious befell this AT controller! That's why I said, 18 minutes may be OK, but really, the underlying problem is that NO ONE else there could do his job! Been there..... not fun! (Really, for example: Having to work my day off, the day after my mom died, because no one else could possibly do it??!! Bitter? Yeah, bit him too.)

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'Hey that sounds pretty nasty, how about a courtesy flush over there?' (AP1)

Fart Poopie (1254) -- 04.25.2007

Toots, that stinks! Did you quit or do you still work there?

Phoenyxx (66) -- 04.25.2007

Even if it's far more mundane that air traffic control, it's always assinine for management to be too cheap and/or lazy to have the right number of people working a shift. The major reason the fast food jobs I had years ago were bad enough that light couldn't escape was always having to work shifts with no break and having to handle someone else's job on days off because the people I was covering for were just too cool to work those days, or else they'd just walk out early and leave the rest of the shift for the few of us who had to stay.

Having to run to the bathroom and leave something critical unattended wasn't usually an issue, but it was a pain in the ass just standing around for 10 hours without a break . the big mistake I made a few times was heading to the bathroom near the end of a shift and being "chosen" to stay later upon coming out and trying to punch out with my coworkers.

Phoenyxx (66) -- 04.25.2007

I can imagine the "controller in the bathroom" problem affecting NASA in the future.

A shuttle is counting down to launch, and the astronauts suddenly get no reply from mission control and the countdown is on hold.

Several minutes later, CAPCOM is heard again: "roger shuttle, had to hold the count, better than me holding it...."

Mary Queen of Scats (387) -- 04.25.2007

If there's one inevitable truth that everyone on this site should know by now, it's that you CANNOT control your bowels.

You may think you can. You may have been able to pinch your bunghole shut so tight that you put off an assplosion for a while. But you can't stop it when your body says it's time.

I can't complain about having to wait a while on a plane because of something no one can control.

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It's YOUR cat, YOU get his poop out of my sink!

GottaGoGirl (2615) -- 04.25.2007

I just had a thought. WHAT IF..... what if in those smallest airports, with only one ATC on duty at a time, there was a little cabinet built under the desk.

In that cabinet could be a camp toilet (the kind with baggie liners) to be used in just such an "EMERGENT-CY".*

The ATC could dispose of the used baggie after he had safely guided the plane (for example, the LifeFlight) to a landing.

*(Hah. Did I just coin a phrase, or has that one been done?)
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Hey! Don't touch my wenis!

Fart Poopie (1254) -- 04.25.2007

I would bust a gut laughing if I was the pilot being guided down by an ATC that was grunting away as he pooped.

Your idea is genius, GGG.
The ATC is happy. The pilot gets a laugh. Everyone wins!

GottaGoGirl (2615) -- 04.25.2007

Right! And the organ recipients would be pretty happy, too! :)
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Hey! Don't touch my wenis!

Big Female Pooper (14) -- 04.25.2007

If the ATC has to go, he has to go. He followed procedure and I see no problem with what he did. If I had to go and in that posistion, I would do the same exact thing.

Fart Poopie (1254) -- 04.25.2007

You're right, Big Female Pooper. The ATC did absolutely nothing wrong. His bosses did by not hiring enough ATCs to cover for each other when these things happen. :-)

Toots N. McCrack (160) -- 04.25.2007

FP, you're sweet-- I finally did leave that godforsaken place about a year later. I saw and experienced many horrible things during my tenure and if I ever write a daring expose of my 6 years there it will be titled, "One Flew Over The Koko's Nest"!

I am cracking up about the camp toilet in the controller's booth! I can hear it now....

*Uh*.... "flight #2.... I mean, flight #2-365 you must circle the bowl. I MEAN CIRCLE AIRSPACE!! You are stuck in your holding pattern until...."
*Uhhhhh* *grunt* *whoosh*.....
"Ahh, OK, you're good to go for the runsway--I mean RUNway!!!!"

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'Hey that sounds pretty nasty, how about a courtesy flush over there?' (AP1

Fart Poopie (1254) -- 04.25.2007

Thanks Toots.

Does your story end with someone throwing a drinking fountain through a large window?

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