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Electric Hand Dryers vs. Paper Towels

Posted 05.19.2002 by Dave (11547)
Editor's note: Like many other thought-proviking topics, this thread first appeared in the PoopReport forums.


SKIDDY POO:
A friend asked this simple, but telling question to me and one other:

After using the toilet in a public restroom where you have the option of drying your freshly washed hands with paper towels or the air blower, which would you pick?

All 3 of us agreed that we'd pick the paper towels. One friend and I said that the towel is quicker, so we were picking for convenience. However, the other friend said that the paper towel is preferred because the air blower blows germs around. Interesting ... different strokes for different folks.

So I ask the same question, when confronted with a choice between the paper towel and the air blower, which do you choose to use to dry your freshly washed hands? And what is your rationale for not picking the other one?


TRASHCANMAN:
"Blow germs around?" Strange, but woefully untrue. Air dryers are even filtered. they're the same as using a blow dryer. I have perfected a method of using water to my advantage. I use the air, first off, it gives shameful shitters a chance to fart, and second it doesn't waste paper. What I do, is load my hands with water, soap and wash. Then I leave a trace of soap on my hands, and get them wet. I go, press the dryer button, and leave just enough moisture to lube the hand. Then, on the way out, I can touch the door, and swirl the soap around, and finish the job. Door handles in bathrooms are sick. You might be suprised to find out how many people don't wash their hands. I never did until I was at least seven, EVEN AFTER POOPING!


DISCO POO:
I use paper, mainly for the speed factor. Plus you can use paper to open the filthy door.


AssBlaster2000:
Seven? Most adults I know don't wash their hands! Yuk! Anyway, usually I choose the paper, but I don't really have a problem with the dryer; it just takes a little longer. If I'm in a dirty bathroom, such as the ones at my local hick hangout the Q-mart I use the dryer for sure. And in any bathroom which enables me to do so I open the door with my elbow or go out backwards and open it with my ass. I don't want anyone else's ass germs on my hands, especially at work, since we make the cartons for over-the-counter medication and I'd sure hate to contaminate something I know will likely be handled by a sick person.


CHIP BROWN:
I prefer paper myself. The air dryers are annoying. It does some almost futile to even wash your hands and then open the bathroom door. I think the the sink should be outside the bathroom so you don't have to dirty your hands on the shit encrusted door knob. But then again, I use my left hand for opening the door and I reserve my right hand for picking my nose and teeth. This way I avoid cross contamination.


ARTFUL DODGER:
I always choose the paper since it's always convenient to use it to open the door. A long time ago, I was exiting a public restroom and saw a shit streak on the handle. I cannot fathom how it got there, but ever since I refuse to touch the door with my bare hands.


LADYBUG:
I use paper towel, and hate when not given the option. I find that it is more sanitary...not that I think the air dryer blows germs around but with the paper towel you can, after drying your hands use the towel to turn off the faucet, and then open the door.


BROWN STREAK:
Paper towel. The air dryers take too fucking long and just aren't as satisfying as the feeling of paper against the skin. I, too, use the paper towel if I have to touch the door handle. If it opens outward, I just kick the door open, so there is no hand contact. For this reason, bathroom doors should all be made to open outward, especially at restaurants. The one at work opens inward, so I do the paper towel thing. Then I have to carry the towel around until I can find a trash can as there isn't one anywhere near the bathroom.


DAKOTA6941:
Yeah, I also prefer the paper to dry my hands. I don't like those air dryers - they don't work real well. Also, if you folks are worried about the handle to the restroom door, what about the control button on the nonautomatic air dryer? I also just give the restroom door a shove with my shoulder or kick it open if it opens out. I've never used paper to open it though.


BROWN STREAK:
I'll admit I've thought about the button on the hand dryer. It's usually dripping wet so I really don't like to touch it. When I was a kid my parents, especially my dad, gave me the whole lecture on how you don't touch things in a public bathroom and how you could catch something awful.


dave:
I like paper. The blower takes too long. I wonder which is a bigger waste of resources... the electricity used to power the blower, or the paper wasted when washing one's hands.

The secretary at my work gets pissed because people wash their hands, use the towel they wipe their hands with to open the bathroom door, and then throw the contaminated towel in the trashbasket by her desk.


SOFTPOOPER:
If given a choice I usually use paper (over here it's always made of recycled paper anyway, so it doesn't seem like such an environmental sin) unless I'm in a bathroom I use regularly and know that the blower dryer really works well. My local Burger King has a great dryer (good soap too, not too much foam but good washability) and no alternative anyway. In Germany there are almost no switch-on dryers left, they're all automatic, but sometimes they work real bad - you put your hand under, nothing happens. You try again. The same result. Next, you wave your hands around where you think the dryer might notice you exist and sometimes it works. If not, then you need to deploy Plan D (for drastic) which is to bring your hands up so close to the dryer's filth-encrusted lasers/sensors that you are going to risk touching the dryer's hidden-from-view and definitely grimy underside. By this time your hands are dry anyway...

A third option to paper and electric heat which may not exist over there but does over here is the electric roller towel. A large electric-driven holder thingy on the wall contains a very long roll of laundry-cleaned cotton (or something like it) towel. You either just pull on the towel or hold your hand near a sensor on the holder in the place indicated by a small sign and a certain length of fresh towel unrolls for you. You dry your hands on this and after say 10 or 15 seconds (never long enough for me) the towel you used is automatically pulled back into the holder in the other direction from where it came. Cool, except that the amount of towel given to each user can be kind of ungenerous, and of course when the roll is finished you have a sad soggy towel hanging down from the machine, which then everyone is using to dry their hands on...! EEeewww.


BROWN STREAK:
We used to have manually operated cloth roller towels at Shakey's Pizza when I was a kid. My dad taught me to never touch the wet part and to advance the cloth to the point where the usable part was all dry. When confronted with no paper towels and a non-functional air dryer, I usually either let my hands dry on their own or wipe them on the sides of my jeans.


Editor's Note: So, with the exception of Softpooper, the overwhelming majority of us seem to exclusively prefer towels to hand dryers. Yet so many public bathrooms install dryers, when the public is clearly against them. Is it a cost vs. public utility issue? Do the needs and wants of the consumer mean nothing? I promise a full PoopReport investigation!

Trashcanman (240) -- 05.19.2002

As mentioned on the forums, paper towels cost $23.00 per 1000 uses, as to the $1.27 for 1000 uses of a dryer.

Trashcanman (240) -- 05.19.2002

By the way, for the record, I don't like towels, I prefer the dryers. And another thing, the only study I could find biased AGAINST dryers was conductd by Kimberly-Clark... Fitting isn't it? Dave, I opt that you write the pro towel report, and I write the anti towel report, I can have my report in your hands by wednsday 5/22/02.

poostain (not verified) -- 05.19.2002

I prefer the dryer because I can use it dry my hair after I wash it

Chris (56) -- 05.20.2002

I like the dryers simply because of the hot air.

The water coming out of the faucets is insanely cold in some places and it feels good to warm your hands back up.

new guy (not verified) -- 05.20.2002

i also like to use the dryer to give shameless shitters a chance to really let loose for a few seconds. then i'll take a small amount of paper to use as a protective shield between my "clean" hands and the nasty knob. i use quotes around "clean" b/c you never know what's in that soap dispenser! i know for a fact that at a McDonald's a few years ago, somebody had peed in it! nasty!

sloopy poop eater (not verified) -- 07.02.2002

i think poop on the handle is bad, i use paper towels at all times.

Connie (not verified) -- 08.06.2002

I am delighted that I found this site!!!! Reason??? My sister is here for a visit (I don't know her very well, she is older, a 1/2 sister and has always lived far away)and the other day while travelling we stopped to use a public restroom. I of course followed my normal procedure, use the restroom, flush the john with my foot, wash my hands, get the paper towels outta the dispenser by using my elbow on the lever, dry my hands, turn off the faucet with the paper towel, head to the door and am prepared to open the door with the paper towel when I see my sister opening the door bare-handed!!!! I told her I would get the door for her and she looked at me funny. I then discarded the paper towel in the nearest waste receptacle. Today I was informed by both my sister and my stepmother that I am obsessive/compulsive. Dontcha think that it's silly to wash your hands (when at least it's your body fluids on them!)and then touch a door that has been touched by thousands of people...a large percentage of those being people that didn't wash their hands???? Gross!!! Any feedback would be appreciated so I can prove that I am not some germ freak...only sanitary. Thanks

Floriduh (not verified) -- 10.03.2002

I don't know about anywhere else, but with the high humidity in Florida, the hot-air dryers are totally useless. You'll get warm hands, but never dry hands from them.

tirade (not verified) -- 10.23.2002

Why does everyone have this paranoia about germs all of sudden? It's "I won't touch the door because it's got germs" and "There are germs on the toilet seat, so I'll go ahead and waste another acre of trees by putting more papaer on it". Try to pay attention to the language we've all been using. Think about it, if you totally isolate yourself from germs and bacteria, and live in a completly sterile enviroment, then you're just asking to get sick. And you'll deserve it too, because you're weak! Nobody needs to use that extra sheet of paper to open the freaking doorknob. I do understand if its covered in someone else's shit, but just because you're paranoid about who's touched the handle before you is not a good reason. Our society has developed a neurotic fixation with germs, and clenliness, and keeping everything sterile and sanitary, and its completely out of balance. Sorry to say it folks, but there is a reaon why you have AN IMMUNE SYSTEM! TO KILL FUCKING GERMS! If you choose to avoid germs entirely, and a germ does get by, you're gonna get sick, and puke and get the runs and you'll deserve it! Now, to clear things up for people who may think of me as some sort of pig right now, I AM for people NOT spitting on hamburgers and defacting on the floor, walls, ect. Don't get me wrong, I do adhere to common standards of sanitation, but its getting to the point of ridiculousness in this country especially.

So next time, when you wipe your ass, don't be so fucking neurotic that you have to flush with your foot (which by the way reduces the life of the toilet im told), don't use Kleenex to open the doors, and do silly shit like lever the hand towels out with your elbows! Sometimes I get sicker thinking about some people's habits in the bathroom than thinking about taking a shit itself. Reconsider your shitting habits, and please stay out of my way if I see one of you paranoid people in the restroom, because I will guarantee you that you won't be feeling clean for long after I deliever this speech to you in a very angry fashion. Especially if you've just used up the last of the hand towels fueling your semi-psycotic neuroticism. Thanks, and thanks to Dave, who has made one of the most interesting sites on the Net, in my belief. Thanks Dave, and keep up the good work!

J D L (not verified) -- 11.07.2002

Geez, I think it'd be HILARIOUS to see how Adrian Monk (Tony Shalhoub) would try to use a public restroom...

In case some of you have not heard of this guy, he's from this USA Network sitcom called "Monk"; about a detective who has obsessive-compulsiver disorder (in other words, DEATHLY AFRAID of germs!)

Then again, this situation would fit nicely into an upcoming episode of "Monk"... it's an hour-long show, so they've definitely got the spare time!

Tidey bowl Man (not verified) -- 01.20.2004

Blower`s are Best People will use Paper Towels and throw them in th Toilet thus Stopping it up. What a mess.I know I Work in Maintenance

::poop on wall boy:: (not verified) -- 02.02.2004

i like blowers

The Shit Volcano (3676) -- 02.05.2004

Blowers suck! I sometimes wash my face in the bathroom and find that there are no paper towels to wipe my face. Then I have to run into a toilet stall and get some paper or wipe it on my shirt. When it's just my hands I stand there forever burning up precious fuel trying to get my hands dry and it never works.

However, on a positive note about blowers, they do have their uses. Just put something nasty up the nozzle, like a tampon smeared with ketchup or a piece of toilet paper covered in peanut butter. The next person to use the blow gets quite a handful!

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Tidey bowl Man (not verified) -- 05.22.2004

Blower are the best Pepole will thorw their used paper Towels in the Toilet and Thus stopping it up
I know this to be true I`m a Janitor

Mike Foodmerchant (not verified) -- 06.19.2004

I ahve seen the light and it is a wakmah door vacuum. This thing is the contrivance we have all been awaiting.

meghan (not verified) -- 04.14.2005

I would definetly, with-out a doubt choose paper towels! I hate waiting for the dryer to dry my hands when I can use the towels to dry them and keep them clean by pushing the restroom door open. Even at school when we spill something, it's not like we can go to the bathroom and rip the cryer out of the wall to dry the spill. Normally, I get the towels to do the work. I know this is gross but it worked:
when I was little I lived in Japan so Mostly every bathroom had paper towels and dryers both. I always hated the dryer, becasue it usually spit something out at me, or took to long. If the option of usuing no paper was not avialable, then I would just use the toilet paper. Gross EH? But hey it worked!
Yes of course there is the cost issue. The public wants paper so give them paper, if you want your costomers back give them what they want. "the costomer is always right, right?"

I have to write a pursuassive essay on this so I was looking all-over for random things then I found this thank you it helped alot~!~

me (not verified) -- 04.14.2005

oh my word you people, I was just on this site to try to find info on this for a report im writing!
why do you care so much to go on this site and find which paper or dryer you like better?
I agree our society is to much of thinking about the cleanliness, you do know we wouldn't be able to live without germs!
of course all this extra poop all over our doors and toilets seats our gross, but thats why we should wash our hands and wipe better!
~thank

Natalie Marcilio - Brasil (not verified) -- 10.17.2005

I'd like to know further informations about " Blow germs around " by air dyers...

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Anonymous Coward (not verified) -- 10.19.2005

bande de con

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moi (not verified) -- 12.10.2005

why are u all talkng about shit...and stuff nobody cares about?? (except the occasional neurotic hehe) but yeah there are so many things in the world...get a life ppl! honestly.....wasting ur time on sumthin like this! and if ppl r askin y im on here...i was lookin for handryers made in germany for my company.....so :P

The Shit Volcano (3676) -- 12.10.2005

"i was lookin for handryers made in germany for my company..."

Moi, someone needs to report this violation of child labor laws.

GrossedOut (not verified) -- 01.04.2006

Obviously, the folks worried about touching the door handle when leaving never eat at buffet restaurants, sharing the serving utensils with everyone else? :-)

Bunga Din (1238) -- 01.04.2006

This past Christmas while shopping I used the mens facilities at a local mall. They had Paper towels, hand dryers and nice soft freshly laundered rolled wrapped cotton hand towels, un real, felt like I was back in the eary 80's at the Ritz in Barcelona. Real frigging towels, 2 major thumbs up to Conestoga Mall in Waterloo Ontario, you guys rock. This is the most environmentally sound principle and also the most luxurious.

KeepOnCrappin (545) -- 01.04.2006

I reasently saw a thing where a cloth (actually probably cotton) was on a roller. I got outta the b/r w/o pissing becuase i refuse to touch a towel someone else used. Blow dry, i dont care b/c u dont realy rub ure hands on it. I like paper towels that are self dispensing (folded) or are put out when u put ure hand in front. I dont use them when u turn the crank or push the lever to get them out b/c everyone else touched it.

THe dryers at the school i work at don't have the little cone that diflects the aire so no suprises. The dryer is less germy b/c u can punch the button instead of putting ure hand on somthing.

In elementary school we uese to turn them under our shirts and puff ourselves up.

I remember a funny joke about a young kid:

"Dad, what are these things on the wall here?"

"They are called hand dryers, son"

"how do you use it daddy?"

"Simple. YOu push this button here and put your hands under it.

"Then what daddy?

"Wipe you hands on your pants to actually get them dry."

Bunga Din (1238) -- 01.04.2006

KeepOnCrappin, these were individually rolled and wrapped hand towels, not a cheap bulk roll thing, same type of hand towels you find in very nice hotels, very thick and soft, like a high end terry cloth robe. Each towel had a paper sleeve on it, they were rolled and in a decorative bin on the counter, with bins for used towels to be placed in.

KeepOnCrappin (545) -- 01.04.2006

Naw, it wasn't indevidually rolled. I was one continus roll. (Like a conveyer belt roll)

projectile(lol) (not verified) -- 02.13.2006

ya so i hate not having the option, i like using paper towels. everytime you go to turn on the air dryer the butons is either wet from someone elses dirty hands, or you have to push it like 5 times to dry your hands. by that time there is a lines up of 4 people and you always ened up drying your damn hands on your pants. paper towels all the way!

Monkey poop (not verified) -- 02.21.2006

All of this poop is funny. It's very amusing. I was searching for info about the germs on hand dryers and this is what came up. Trashcanman, your mom should have taught you better or was it because YOU chose not to wash your hands?

Anonymous Coward (not verified) -- 03.28.2006

I think this webpage is great. I also prefer hand towels because after doing research on a study done on hand towels and hand dryers it showed that hand dryers actually increase germs found on your hands by 255% while using paper towels decreased the amount of germs on your hands by 58%, also I found out that for every ton of paper towels made more than 90% of them are recycled and if not recycled it only takes 17 trees to make one ton of paper towels, and every day for each person in the united states 5 trees are planted. Trees are renewable and the paper can be used for starting fires when your camping or something useful like that instead

Northy (107) -- 05.20.2006

It's got to be the hand towels. The air drier has to be the worst invention in the world. Even those super driers that burn your skin still don't dry your hands. Plus if you've soaped up your hands when you rub them together under the air drier the soap magically re-appears. No matter how much water you put on them. The fact is paper towels are quicker and dry your hands. Air driers take AGES and you still find yourself wiping your hands on your jeans. I don't care how much damn trees are cut down to make them - they get the job done.

Double Flush (583) -- 05.20.2006

I prefer paper towels. You can be sure that you have your hands try, plus you get something to protect your hand from the revolting door when you open it to leave the men's room. Forget costs--I prefer towels.

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Practicing the ancient Chinese art of double flushing... because sometimes, a single flush just isn't enough.

Bloated Goat (not verified) -- 06.20.2006

As a corporate guru with 25 plants and a minimum of 300 people in each...
Switching to warm air hand dryers saved thousands of dollars in paper costs and I'm sure alot of trees.
I say let it blow and carry a hanky to open the door. Even my grandfather did that.
Read this:

Good For The Environment.
Converting to Excel Hand Dryers is a great source reduction alternative. Many businesses and institutions are required by law to reduce non-recyclable waste.

Approved.
Excel is the only hand dryer manufacturer to achieve ® approval.

Promotes Hygiene.
The use of hand dryers allows washrooms to stay cleaner and more sanitary. Picking up and disposing of bacteria-laden paper towel waste is one of the custodians' least favorite tasks.

Labor Savings.
Excel Hand Dryers are virtually maintenance-free, except for a recommended annual cleaning. Paper towels, by comparison, require one hour of maintenance for each case of towels used.

Reduced Vandalism.
Hand dryers eliminate the vandalism often present with paper towels. Towels clog toilets and sinks, can be set aflame, and are thrown, wet, onto walls and floors.

Always Ready For Use
Hand Dryers are ready to be used 24 hours a day. Say goodbye to customer complaints about empty or non-functioning paper towel dispensers.

Best Warranty
Excel Dryers offer the best warranty in the industry, including a 10-year unlimited warranty on our Hands On® models (see specifications for details).

Easy Access For The Disabled
Hand Dryers are easily positioned at recommended heights for use by the physically challenged.

Death to the paper towel...

Anonymous Coward (not verified) -- 10.11.2006

have any of you ever thought about the handle on the paper towel dispenser, and how gross it could be? (unless, of course its automatic)

The Shit Volcano (3676) -- 10.11.2006

Automatic paper towel dispensers are wonderful! Though, I have noticed in several cases I have to pound on the sensor for the stupid thing to even read that I'm there.

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"That was a very disappointing party. I showed up and everyone left!"- Camille

Nine Inch Log (345) -- 10.11.2006

Does anyone remember the old school dispensers. They still exist in fairgrounds and filthy bars. They are the towel holders that have, say, six feet of towel that you manually crank through or pull down on. I can honestly say that it is those demonish contraptions that have given me a fear of public restrooms.

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Number One . . . I order you to take a number two.

Anonymous Coward (not verified) -- 03.27.2007

Public bathrooms should use hand dryers because too many people don't respect the bathrooms & throw paper towels down the toilets!

The Shit Volcano (3676) -- 03.28.2007

Many people in public restrooms are irresponsible and clog the toilets with TP. We should all use anus blowers to wipe our butts, because we are not responsible enough to not clog the toilets. Of course, then there will be this problem with mysterious brown specks on the ceiling, so there you go...

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Behold! My new farting super power! BRAPP!!!

Finless Brown Trout (not verified) -- 06.08.2007

Blowerphobes listen up: It takes a long time to dry your hands under a dryer because you're doing it incorrectly. Shake the water off your hands first, and then rub them vigorously under the airstream, and not just the palms. Rub between the fingers and the tops of the hands too. I will admit, it takes about 3 seconds longer than the dryer is programmed for, so you have to press the button again (with your elbow), but I promise your hands will be nice and dry and pleasantly warm. Getting out of the door if it's a pull door is a different story... But that's where your immune system comes in. You don't whine about door knobs to other rooms do you? I bet they're just as dirty or worse, because they probably never get cleaned.

Mr Fussy (not verified) -- 08.04.2007

I go for the air dryer; only because paper towels don't dry your hands fully. They leave youyr hands wet, if only a little... and air dryers are nice and warm :)

Hamster (579) -- 08.04.2007

For me, paper towels every time!! And, yes, recycled is good. But, in general, much quicker, and can be used to open the door that has been touched by those that don't even wash after shitting. I hate dryers - and will just walk out with wet hands rather than use them.

healthy 1 (1422) -- 10.17.2007

Though the hand drier sounds like the more efficient method of drying one's hands. I'll stick with paper towels.

I just like the idea of doing things the old fashiond way.
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"Two percent of the population think; three percent of the population think they think, and 95 percent of the population would rather die than think."

djcookie187 (not verified) -- 11.15.2007

Look. I will always choose the dryer because if you think that drying your hands quickly is worth killing trees, which I remind you, converts hydrogen into oxygen WHICH WE BREATH TO LIVE, then damn it I hope we get to Mars in time before we die on this planet which we are killing

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