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I, Toilet Paper Advocate

Posted 02.13.2007 by Bunga Din (1238)
It's been a great week for yours truly. And I think I hit the jackpot last night when I stopped in at Costco for some Tony Roma's hot sauce and a few other goodies. As I made my way through the store, I marveled at the absolute bulkiness of everything. I like Costco. They treat their employees decently, they have good prices, they offer free samples of stuff, and they don't put on airs about what they are: just a good cheap place to get stuff you may need... or want.

Having made my way through the store, I was at the very back, near the meat department -- the absolute deadest corner of the store, traffic-wise. And what should my gaze fall upon? A matronly old woman with a sample stand, GIVING OUT GIFT BAGS OF FREE TOILET PAPER!

Usually I'm quick to be a grabber of anything free; but for some reason, I hesitated. I looked around and noticed no one carrying one of these bags. Had she just set up her sample stand? Why was this set up in the most remote corner of the store? Surely this was something that should have been right in the main aisle; but they had forsaken her to relative anonymity in the back. Is toilet paper something that even Costco, a marvel at selling shit, is not comfortable with?

I approached and was greeted with, "This is a new product. You will find it in the personal care aisle" -- which was about as far from her station as you could get. I thanked her and walked along, quite happy, my tiny bag firmly in hand. But the more I wandered around the store, the more I thought something just wasn't right. Why was no one else getting the freebies? Was she too well hidden? Or were people just uncomfortable with the potential of having to engage with a stranger about ass wipe?

With this in mind, I wandered back and hung around in the near vicinity. Lots of people were passing her by without attempting to get a free sample -- in fact, it was like they were avoiding her. I hung out for about five minutes and saw no less than fifty people pass her. Only one other person took a roll.

"This is a poop report if ever there was one!" I thought to myself. I'm an outgoing guy, so I marched over to her and struck up a conversation. "Usually everyone grabs samples like it's the greatest thing in the world. But you don't seem to be having too many people interested. Why is this?"

She smiled slightly and pointed at the sample bag. "I think people just like to get it and go out -- they don't want to have to talk about it."

I laughed with her and said, "I think it's great. One of the best samples ever! What makes Cashmere Premium such a great purchase?"

She started to look a bit uncomfortable. "Soft and new and quilted," she said. And then: "Oh, yeah, the rolls are bigger, too."

I've been in sales before, and I know that you don't sell the steak, you sell the sizzle. And what she was selling wasn't even the steak -- she was selling the package the steak came in. My mind thought of all the things she could say: "With its super-fluffed embossed feel, it's like sitting on a cloud!" Or, even better: "The extra quantity on each roll means savings to you -- and isn't that why you shop at Costco to begin with?" So I mentioned my sales experience and suggested she should "jazz up her description," to which she said, "I only have an hour left in my shift. We drew straws to see who got stuck with this one. I lost."

I burst out laughing. "Well, you're doing a fantastic job as far as I'm concerned!"

"Have another roll on me!" she replied. So I grabbed the second sample and off I went, with a real bounce in my step.

As I walked around the store, I'd notice someone glance at me -- I was purposefully swinging one of the sample bags, letting it bounce on my leg and make a popping noise -- and when I saw someone, I'd hold up my bag and say, "Free tissue, and MAN is this soft! I hear they make it with the down of baby geese! And these rolls are gargantuan -- this will last me a month. It's sure to save me thousands of dollars a week!" And they'd either smile or turn away sharply. Most smiled and laughed.

I continued with my shopping for another thirty minutes or so (reading books, trying a treadmill, laying on a loveseat, and just generally being a nuisance); and as I did, I noticed there were a lot more people getting samples now, including several of the people to whom I had shown my own with pride. To one I even said, "Glad to see you've joined the club."

As I was exiting the store, I was held up while a nice woman checked my receipt against my cartload. "This is the greatest day in the annals of Costco!" I told her. "I got TWO samples of toilet paper. Not one like everyone else gets, but TWO! Either the lady knew I was full of it and would be needing the extra, or she was just trying to impress upon me the true benefits of Cashmere Premium, sample size, not available for resale!"

The woman laughed and said, "I really, sincerely hope you enjoy them."

"I will, and I will be thinking of you and your kind and hearty well-wishes each and every time I have use for this."

At this point I realized I was in very murky waters, so to speak, and I awaited a caustic reply or a look of fear and disgust. But she came right back at me and said, "And each time someone walks by with a sample, I'll think of you."

Normally I would have continued chatting, but the line behind me was increasing in size, and I really didn't know what else to say without being thought a freak. So I skedaddled.


I guess the whole point of this exercise is to show that even in an environment that provides us the accoutrements to our anal ablutions, there is still a reticence to admit this. I applaud Costco in providing samples of a new product, but I think they could have gone one step further and put the sample table in a more heavily-traveled area, as they do with food. Rome was not conquered in a day, nor will be our fear of admitting we shit. Except for us PoopReporters, that is.


Cashmere Premium Bathroom Tissue (brought to you by the Scott Paper Company) is definitely the softest tissue ever to grace my ass (save for a lady's tongue, who shall remain nameless... and tasteless, to boot). What I liked about this is that it's soft, but not without strength. I'm sure many fine PoopReporters have encountered a soft tissue that, when getting down to the scud work, fails miserably, either tearing or, in the case of a nasty wet one, disintegrating and balling up. Cashmere showed none of these symptoms. (Mind you, I had to simulate a wet one with water, due to solid poops of late.)

I have mentioned before that I think softness is an admirable trait in paper; but for sheer value I think it all boils down to weight. The Cashmere Premium roll weighs 125 grams per roll. My Kirkland toilet paper weighs in at a whopping 170 grams, while a bargain basement roll of no-name wipe I have (in the guest bathroom, of course) weighs in at a mere 110 grams per roll. The bargain basement roll is a 200-sheeter, the Cashmere Premium a 300-sheeter, and the Kirkland a monster at 425 sheets. Thus I deduce that I get the least weight-per-sheet with the Kirkland, and the most with the cheapest stuff.

But, as I asked myself whilst on the pot: "Bunga, do you grab the paper and magically weigh it in your hand prior to wiping? Or do you grab a handful (usually eight sheets) and begin work?" Of course I just grab the paper, unroll a mitten-full, and go to it. So for me it really boils down to the number of sheets per roll -- that is, the cost per sheet versus the job it does. The bargain basement stuff does the job adequately, but I do notice it doesn't possess the softness I've come to expect. So, at the bare-assed minimum, I'd say the Kirkland is the least I would go as far as softness.

The price differential worked out to be about sixteen cents extra per roll for the Cashmere Premium; and while it is nice, it isn't worth the difference, especially when you consider I use about eight sheets per wipe -- that makes the true cost differential more like twenty-two cents per roll extra. All said, I think Scott is clever in marketing this paper: they have Cashmere, Cashmere Ultra, and now Cashmere Premium. They make a big effort to highlight on their packaging their support for breast cancer funding; and, being that it is the woman of the house who usually makes this purchase, I'm sure this is effective. This paper is very soft when you squeeze it in the package -- softer than the Kirkland or any of the other brands I've come across (no jokes here, guys). I think it will be a success -- but only time and shit will tell.

Great comment! +1 point
C Everett Poop (587) -- 02.13.2007

That's quite a report far a couple of freebie rolls of asswipe at Costco. You could probably write a novel if you bought a toilet.

Great comment! +1 point
Bunga Din (1238) -- 02.13.2007

Yep.

The Big Wiper (2240) -- 02.13.2007

That was an interesting bit of sociology. I certainly would have no problem trying a sample if the grocery store I patronize decided to hand out freebies.

But I understand why some people might feel uncomfortable. I've heard tell that males sometimes feel very uncomfortable going out and buying certain 'feminine products' for their wives and girlfriends.

We all know that there's a healthy percentage of people who also feel uncomfortable discussing bodily functions. Making a big to-do in the checkout line about TP choices is just something many people would never do.

I think Ashton Kutcher could take this one step further and get an episode of 'Punk'd' out of it.

Pulling My Pants Down For Peace, Plop and Posterity!

Shit monster (85) -- 02.13.2007

Shweet. Thats so cool you got a free sample of the softest asswipe to ever grace your ass. Thats awesome. This reminds me of what this site is for: Its for people to come to after a hard day at work, to get happy, and to remember that everyone shits, so no one will be scared of shitting!!

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Pantload (74) -- 02.13.2007


I think CEP deserves a "great comment" for that one. LOL


What's so funny 'bout poop, love, and understanding?

The Thunderous ... (651) -- 02.13.2007

Hmmm gonna have to check at BJ's for this product. Sounds great and yes you really have to aggressively market asswipe thats for sure.
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The Thunderous Crapper 63 Enjoying home toilet advantage since 2004!

Chip Brown (201) -- 02.13.2007

I avoid eye contact with every "free sample" person that I see hanging out in stores. Even if my wife grabs a free sample, I keep walkin'. There's just something creepy about them.

Great comment! +2 points
Deja Poo (606) -- 02.13.2007

Interesting analysis, BD. I would counter, though, that a more appropriate "objective" measure for TP would be the length on the roll.

Imagine now that there's a bean counter (BC) who's more concerned with the bottom line than this clients' bottoms. BC wants to increase his profits either by increase his revenue or decrease his cost. In order to increase his revenue, he either has to increase the size of the market or increase his market share.

It seems to me the market for TP is relatively fixed. Each person, over the course of a year, probably craps approximately the same number of times. To be certain, there may be more productive weeks and less productive weeks, but over the long-haul, say year-to-year, I would bet that most people's bowel habits don't change. Given that, you will be dooking a relatively fixed number of times, I would also bet that the amount of TP per asswipe is relatively fixed. I, for instance, am a double-wrapper. That is, I take a length about twice the width of my hand and fold it over before wiping. I don't count the number of sheets; I use TP according to other orthopometric measures.

It's also doubtful that the TP manufacturers could induce you to crap more often. The reason why they would want you to go more often is obvious. However, the devil is in the details. How could they get you to do this? What are they going to do? Get Dr. Pepper to start putting Prune juice in their product instead of polyethylene glycol? While it may be healthier for you, most people would rather drink radiator fluid instead of Prune juice. Or they could encourage people to lead healthier lives by eating dried apple rings instead of Fritos.

Still, even if they can make you want to purge your bowels more often, there's an upper limit to the number of times per day that you would be willing to do this. Say, they induce you to go twice as often. For the once-per-day folks, hallelujah! For the three-times-per-day folk, their production has now increased to torrential levels. And gawd help those who suffer from IBS.

This, of course, is the company's disincentive. Imagine Mike Wallace standing at the front door of corporate headquarters wildly waving a memo claiming that your company is spiking your sister products so that people have to shit more often. How long do you think it would be before there were Congressional hearings on this? The Politicians and the Media love this kind of shit. Trust me about this. I've lived in Washington, D.C. most of my life and I know that all of these bastards live for this kind of shit.

BC could go after market share. Now, the usual ways for capturing market share are advertising or price. Raising product awareness is an expensive proposition. The cheaper forms of advertising probably wouldn't work, like telemarketers or junk mail. After all, would you be turned on by a call while you're eating asking you what you intend to clean up your dinner with? And junk mail certainly wouldn't do because most people would use that instead of BC's product just for the irony of it. Junk mail, then, is out of the question.

That only leaves TV. But in order to make a decent commercial, you have to hire ad agencies and producers unless, of course, your selling Doritos. Still, the cost of the air time for the Super Bowl wasn't cheap. With a profit margin of pennies per package, you're going to have to sell alot more asswipe in order to make this a paying proposition.

Of course, there are publicity stunts which can be cheap. But what are you going to do? Have an asswiping contest? I'm sure there are lots of possibilities. I'm also sure that if this were a viable means of advertising, it would have been done by now.

I'm betting that most people are like me. They won't buy the cheapest because they're concerned that it maybe 80-grit sandpaper or that it leaves ass-stucco at the least hint of moisture. Once you get beyond the industrial-strength, low-cost toilet papers, mid-priced TP is a commodity; it's all relatively the same so I don't care about the manufacturer. I'm also betting that high-priced asswipe market is dominated by the connoiseurs and the dilettantes, which I'm sure is a very small segment of the entire population. Therefore, the bulk of the TP market would be price sensitive as these people aren't a large factor.

So BC starts looking at decreasing cost. He can always lay people off, but I'm betting that his production line is already very efficient and highly automated. He could move his production off-shore, but chances are that he probably did that in the '90's, if he was ever going to do that.

Looking at the product, he wants to reduce the amount of product per unit sold. This means that he's got to put less material in the product without effecting the consumer's perception of the product. There are only so many ways he can do this. He can decrease the weight of the paper in the sheet or decrease the size of the sheet.

BC knows that the consumer's standard of measure is the sheet. But he can't reduce the number of sheets per roll because his value-conscious consumers will question his product if they see that they're getting less product for the same price. That is, they might feel short-sheeted and with good reason. There are few people who will pay more for less, although there seems to be such a trend these days, as people go from Super-Size back to rational portions. Most of this, however, seems to be at the input end of the human anatomy and not the output end.

If BC decreases the weight in the sheet, he also decreases the strength of the sheet. Like most manufacturers, he's probably putting no more in that product than he has to in order to make the product functional and safe. Putting less material in a product that is already at its minimal configuration will lead to more malfunctions. I generally don't care whether it's Cottonelle or Nothern White as long as it works. However, if I suddenly start getting shit under my fingernails because somebody's product isn't working as advertised, I'm going to strongly encourage my wife to avoid that brand.

Of course, BC can start making his TP from stronger materials. I think that putting a strengthening agent in the mix would probably cost more than leaving the product in its current configuration. While "Kevlar" on the packaging might be a selling point for men, I don't think that the major purchasers, women, would be impressed. Besides, "Kevlar" sounds too much like "Asbestos". While I may not mind putting it on my head as protection of bullets and shrapnel, I wouldn't want to put it against my sphincter.

So, BC can't reduce the weight per sheet, nor can he reduce the number of sheets per roll. That only leaves dimensions of the sheet.

BC can't decrease the width of the sheet as the width of the roll is an industry standard. Consumers would notice that the roll fits sloppily on the hanger. They might forgive a few rolls, but rolls that just aren't snug on the hanger won't do. Because of the tight tolerances between the hanger and the roll along the width, any extra space would probably be noticed, again, as short-sheeting or shoddy production.

However, if the length of the sheet were decreased, BC would still be able to keep the same sheet count on the packaging while decreasing the material in the package. The length of the roll is shorter and the roll would be lighter, but who would notice? After all, when was the last time that you measured a roll of TP or, except for BD, weighed your roll of TP? Are you going to put your clean asswipe regularly on a kitchen scale just to make sure that you aren't getting gypped? Are you going to unspool the roll up and down your neighborhood sidewalks for the same reason? Probably not.

Would you notice that you're using eight sheets instead of seven? Maybe. But you already know how much you need in order to get the job done. I imagine that most people pull off a fixed length of TP. I don't suppose that many people count the number of sheets before tearing it off of the roll. And in really dire situations, they probably just yank the damn roll and settle whatever they think is more than safe regardless of the number of sheets.

Sure, you might notice that the diameter of the roll got smaller. However, more air could be injected into the TP production process. Just as surely as some people eat more cabbage in order to bulk up their turds and produce more methane, so extra air in the TP would maintain the bulk of the roll. He could also slap the words "New! Improved! Softer Than Ever!" on the packaging and still be telling the truth. For this, BC would

get his sought after promotion and the adoration of peers.

And that is why linear feet should become the standard for measuring TP.

And that's all I have to say about that.


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Deja Poo - Because this shit's so strange, it couldn't ever have happened before.

Phillip DeCrapper (81) -- 02.13.2007

Wow Deja Poo, that was a long comment. Yeah, I'm all for free stuff, especially when it's toilet paper. I wish that they gave out free samples of Gas Medication. I have been having a terrible time with excess gas. Does anybody have any ideas for a product that halts the ass pipes, without being so strong that I can take it every day, if need be. You know, I was thinking of something, tell me if I'm off base. I was thinking if I made a sort of ass filter, maybe a small vinyl tube, with a flared base, stuffed with charcoal filter. How's that do you think? Does that sound plausible, an ass filter?
Anyway, toilet paper's cool, but I'm a baby wipe guy.

CaCa Doodle Doo (42) -- 02.13.2007

There is such an ass filter, Phillip DeCrapper. It's called Flat-D.

Deja Poo (606) -- 02.13.2007

Why thank you for noticing the length of my ...er ...hmmm ...how shall we put this? ...my post, PdeC. Fortunately, it was slow at work today and most of my job was waiting for others to complete theirs.

By the way, I would suggest that you reconsider your ass-filter. As I was reading this, I imagined you were describing something like a kazoo with a charcoal filter. With a little practice, you could probably replace the horn section of your community symphony orchestra.


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Deja Poo - Because this shit's so strange, it couldn't ever have happened before.

Great comment! +1 point
AssBlaster2000 (1117) -- 02.13.2007

Has no one else comment-modded this freakin' thread yet? Slackers, all!

Anyway, I think I had the opposite problem at Sam's Club the other week. There were no free samples, but the TP aisle of the store is the dead last aisle in the place, and it's behind the janitorial supplies and other assorted boring crap. I went to get my usual 36 pack of Quilted Northern Double rolls. There were two other people in the aisle, a man and a woman. The man briefly made eye contact and smiled with me. He may have been making a wan attempt to flirt, or covering up anxiety.

My cart was already full of cat litter, fun packs of chips (I can afford the fun pack), and various bulk frozen foods, so the TP wasn't fitting in. So I had to put it on top of the cat litter, making it quite conspicuous to other shoppers. In doing so I noticed that at least half the other shoppers had giant packs of conspicuously placed TP in their carts. Were all the Shameless Shitters in this part of PA at Sam's Club that day? Were all the Shameful Shitters in Bungaladesh at Costco?

Maybe it was the idea of the sample lady's sales pitch that made the people uncomfortable about the samples. I know that at Sam's, the sample ladies have to talk about the features of the product and what you can use it for, and, of course, you have to try the product.

Picture the sample lady saying, "This TP is quilted and soft and perfect for those post-Taco-Bell ass hangovers. It soothes the burning sensation of the most pernicious diarrhea. Plus, you get 72 rolls in a pack. You won't even run out in a snowstorm!"

And, of course, I won't even go into the feasibility of trying the product.

(In warmer weather, a porta-potty outside the store would have been a nice touch. The cameras could have been rolling for commercials of post-wipe testimonials. Truth in advertising indeed.)

There are like a buttload of polls I can get out of this report. As you can see, I've had a dearth of ideas lately in that department.

Toots N. McCrack (160) -- 02.14.2007

Ahh, you guys are great-- AND THOUROUGH!

I thoroughly enjoyed the story and the comments thus far (Deja Poo, wow!)

I remember what my brother in law said to me when we all went to Costco over 10 years ago and I got one of those huge TP packs-- he said "Ewww, you need that much TP"? and I said, "Yes, I wipe my butt, You don't?" That shut him up!

I really, really commend Bunga for bringing up to the general/consumer retail public, for everyone who actually wipes their ass, into the open-- Yes. Shit happens. And (hopefully) wiped.

This kinda reminds me of some comedian's bit (I don't know who) quipped that when he buys a huge thing of TP and some food at the grocery store, he asks the checker, "Is this enough TP for the amount of food I'm buyin'?"

I've dared my shamless dad to do this at the supermarket, but he's never seen the clip and hasn't seen fit to do it.....yet."


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'Hey that sounds pretty nasty, how about a courtesy flush over there?' (AP1)

Mary Queen of Scats (387) -- 02.14.2007

I think AB2K may have stumbled onto a barometer for our society in terms of Shamefullness vs. Shamelessness.

Think about it; in a soceity of Shameless shitters, I would imagine that it would be fairly common to see people that were not afraid to proudly and boldly carry their newly acquired TP through the isles of their chosen buying grounds.

Gone would be the days of hiding your asswipe in the bottom of your cart under the packages of hotdogs and macaroni and cheese.

It would be an interesting experiment: can you, in fact, measure the level of someone's Shamefullness by the way they display (or don't display) their TP when they buy it?

I believe you can. Bunga, a steadfast advocate of Shamelessness, was not afraid to saunter through Costco swinging his free TP sample and, in effect, proclaim to the world, "I AM A SHAMELESS SHITTER!".

I'm sure it's no stretch of the imagination to see that the person with their TP buried within the depths of their cart has a much higher level of Shamenfullness.

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Holy skid marks Batman!

GottaGoGirl (2615) -- 02.14.2007

It's even more universal than with women and whether they'll purchase Feminine Products in a checkout line with a male cashier.

EVERYONE has to buy toilet paper. While an embarassed woman might try to sneak tampons in between the Diet Pepsi and the Corn Flakes, does anyone ever bother to hide the fact that they're putting TP on the conveyor belt?

Interesting subject. I'm going to make sure I have extra time to lurk at the grocery, next time. Let's hope I don't get arrested.

Again.

Queen of Sharts (87) -- 02.15.2007

I LOVE free samples- in fact I love anything that's free. I'm a travel agent, so it's in our blood to like free stuff. We all like it. If I got two big ass free bags of toilet paper like that, I'd be acting like I won the lotto, too.


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Don't be playin' with the Queen of Sharts

daphne (3325) -- 02.16.2007

I quit hiding the feminine products a long time ago. Now it's actually kind of fun to scout out the male cashier.
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Bilgepump (1471) -- 02.16.2007

I frequently buy femine products, just so chicks think I'm caring and sensitive,and stuff.

Doesn't work very well...in fact, hasn't worked at all. Now I got a garage full of crap I can't use, and haven't impressed a gal enough to give it all to....my life just freaking sux. If it were any worse, I'd be DF and kill myself.

GottaGoGirl (2615) -- 02.16.2007


Have a garage sale. You might meet someone nice.

Bilgepump (1471) -- 02.16.2007

Quit telling me what to do, you, you, teller.

GottaGoGirl (2615) -- 02.16.2007

Not a teller. A Seer. Trust me. Cardboard. Magic Marker. Make signs. You'll be sharing your bathroom in no time.

Kernel Mustard (1) -- 02.17.2007

Maybe it's because I just read "Mr. Pooh Revisited"...but that second picture of the samples bears a remarkable resemblance to Mr.Pooh (and his Francophone cousin, at right).

Stripper Poop (35) -- 04.05.2007

One thing I always loved about TP is the packaging. Angels, clouds, soft furry animals, babies. Great stuff.
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Strippers Poop Too!

The Shit Volcano (3646) -- 04.05.2007

Free toilet paper?! You found free toilet paper? That's great! I'll have to start shopping at Costco (even if it is 5 and a half hours away). I've never heard of Cashmere Premium before, even if Scott makes it. Is it just a Costco variety or only offered in Canada? I'd wonder what kind of affect this would have on a septic tank.

Scott makes good stuff, no matter what variety. I accidentally grabbed their package of "extra soft" and was really annoyed, until I discovered that it cleaned even better than the other. Plus, no TP breakthrough or dingleberries of any kind. And the rolls are bigger. I have to wonder if "extra soft" here in the USA is "cashmere" in Canada.

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Miss Simone Scat (570) -- 05.31.2007


_Free TP whoopee!!!!!!!!!!!!______
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