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Poop In The Pool: What To Do When Shit Happens

Posted 06.18.2007 by Crapola (239)
Summer is here! Which means it's time for a nice, cool cocktail by the pool. And here's one perfect for PoopReporters:

Poop in the Pool
2 oz chilled Blue Curacao liqueur
1 small tootsie roll candy
Pour the Curacao into a shot glass and drop in a Tootsie Roll.

I think it's more authentic in an on-the-rocks glass. But hey -- I'm a certified aquatic exercise instructor, not a bartender. What do I know? Other than the fact that nothing ends summer fun like (real) poop in the (real) pool! I've experienced it. And we've heard about it from people who have done it. Today, I'm here to teach you what to do if it happens to you.

First and foremost, when poop happens: EVERYBODY OUT OF THE POOL!

Next, know that a solid log poses less threat than a liquid blast. Fish out a floater (or sinker) ASAP, taking extreme care to not break it apart. Then (duh!) dump it in a toilet. Then soak whatever you used to grab it (net, towel, your hand) in Clorox for, like, forever. Or throw it out. Never vacuum poop from the pool because the vacuum will re-contaminate the pool whenever it is used in the future.

Diarrhea in the pool is a different matter. And it poses waaay more of a health hazard. We're talking about potential transmission of Cryptosporidium, Giardia, E-coli, and Shigella. The US Centers for Disease Control has a whole website about it. They call it: Fecal Accident Response Recommendations for Aquatics Staff.

Diseases caused by poop in the pool are classified as Recreational Water Illnesses (RWIs). RWIs are spread by accidentally swallowing pool water that has been contaminated with poop-related germs.

The good news is that germs causing RWIs are killed by chlorine.

However, chlorine doesn't work on them right away. It takes time to kill them. In some cases, it may take seven days before the pool is safe for swimming! If poop happens in your pool, carefully follow the CDC's charts. In short form, chlorinated pool water kills disease-causing organisms at the following speeds:

E-Coli Bacteria: Less than one minute
Hepatitis A Virus: 16 minutes
Giardia Parasite: 45 minutes
Cryptosporidium Parasite: 6.7 days

There are variables that depend on the amount of chlorine, the size of pool, parts per million, and so on. But to be on the safest side, in case ol' Crypto is present, the pool has to be closed and chlorinated for a week. (Kryptonite could kill Superman, so I guess the two are related.)

However, the CDC offers some conflicting information. In the aftermath of what it calls "Formed Stool in the Pool," it instructs you to:

"...raise the chlorine to 2 ppm (if less than 2 ppm), and ensure the pH is between 7.2 - 7.5. This chlorine concentration was selected to keep the pool closure time to approximately 30 minutes."

In the aftermath of a diarrheal incident, though:

"...maintain the chlorine concentration at 2.0 ppm, pH 7.2 - 7.5, for at least 25 minutes before reopening the pool. State or local regulators may require higher chlorine levels in the presence of chlorine stabilizers such as chlorinated isocyanurates."

First the CDC prescribes that a pool might have to be closed for a week, and then it tells you how to re-open it via superchlorination in twenty-five or thirty minutes? Scary, huh? Reminds me of EPA after 9/11: "The air at Ground Zero is fresh and pure and healthy! No worries, rescue workers!"

So, isocyanurates shmarunates. Where I work, a week's closure is the rule. We don't trust Washington!

The CDC also recommends backwashing the filter thoroughly post-poop filtration. "Be sure," they say, "the effluent is discharged directly to waste. {...} Where appropriate, replace the filter media." "WHERE APPROPRIATE"?!? Poop just ran through it!

In my many years working in aquatic facilities, I've never seen an adult poop in the pool. I have, however, seen a child release a huge floating log. And that pool subsequently banned both parent and child and then closed down for super-chlorination for a week.

I did recently hear a horrible tale from an aquatic trainer colleague. "This senior I train," she told me. "Her husband gave her Milk of Magnesia. Well, they never told me. And then all of a sudden I saw this brown cloud blast out of her bathing suit. And I screamed and told her to get out of the pool NOW. The poop was dripping down her legs, all over the ladder." That pool was closed for a week, too.

A week closure is the right thing to do, in my opinion. Remember --- *I* have to go in those pools with my clients! Any pool that's closed less than a week, I will quit that job!

But here's an interesting note. I quote the CDC:

"In 1999, pool staff volunteers from across the country collected almost 300 samples from fecal accidents that occurred at waterparks and pools. CDC then tested them for Crypto and Giardia. None of the sampled fecal accidents tested positive for Crypto but Giardia was found in 4.4% of the samples collected.

So maybe poop is less germy than we think. But it begs a more interesting and entertaining question: why haven't we heard from those volunteers about their, um, collection responsibilities? There are three hundred poop reports waiting to be reported! After all, the CDC recommends keeping a Fecal Accident Log. *chuckle*

Most of these regulations apply to full-sized swimming pools. If poop happens in a kiddie pool with no filter, here's what to do: drain the pool. Period.

If you have kids, you may have one of those kiddie swim diapers. But according to this site, the kiddie swim diapers "do NOTHING to make the pool safer! Kimberly-Clark's marketing of these items skirts the issue, but never actually makes any claim of improved safety. The ONLY garment that offers some protection to other pool users is some type of waterproof pants over the diaper. But, quite honestly, fecally-incontinent individuals -- of any age, sex, mental capability, etc -- should not be sharing a pool with other people."

So, if you believe that site, you should keep your non-toilet trained kid out of all pools --- even kiddie pools.

Poop in the pool is funny -- everyone remembers that scene in Caddyshack -- but it's also serious. So if poop happens to you, do the right thing. Check the CDC's site, but also contact a licensed pool operator in your area who knows his/her stuff. You have a responsibility to make sure no one gets sick.

Here's hoping the only poop in your pool is that little Tootsie Roll in your cocktail. Enjoy a happy and Recreational Water Illness-free summer!

GottaGoGirl (2615) -- 06.18.2007

The ONLY point of the swim diapers is that they don't swell up in the water like regular diapers.

The reason someone thought to INVENT the things is because people were taking infants into the water with regular DIAPERS on.

The swim diapers INVITE bodily products to escape! Ick, ick, ick.

Mary Queen of Scats (387) -- 06.18.2007

There was an incident like this in the indoor wave pool of a resort where I worked one summer.

Ever seen a 60-year old woman in a $3,000 Armani suit (the general manager) handing towards the pool area with a plastic sandwich bag and a broom? I have.

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What do you mean you didn't see it? It was right next to the toilet!

Dave (11578) -- 06.18.2007

I view this page with some skepticism. There's a tendency to ascribe magical contaminating powers to poop that go beyond the actual truth of the matter.

I don't deny that poop contains all sorts of crazy bacteria. (Although one's poop doesn't contain any diseases one doesn't already have. No one will catch cholera from poop unless the person pooping already has cholera.)

But I don't think that the sudden insertion of a log of poop is going to cause an outbreak. After all, as we've discussed in many other places, our bodies aren't really poop-free as it is. Toilet paper doesn't actually clean us so much as it smears poop into our butts until we can't see it any more. Presumably there are still small amounts of poop and bacteria stuck to our butts as we dive into the pool. So we're constantly introducing fecally-transmitted bacteria to the water; that's why the water is chlorinated.

So while it's true that a solid log does introduce a higher concentration of bacteria into the water, I can't imagine it's enough to overwhelm the levels of chlorine already present.

I'm not saying precautions shouldn't be taken -- they should, absolutely. Rather, I just think that there's precaution and then there's hysteria and fearmongering.

Dave (11578) -- 06.18.2007

Follow-up: as for diarrhea, that does indeed require more caution than a solid log. It will disperse much faster, for obvious reasons; but while it could just be the aftermath of Taco Bell, diarrhea could be evidence of some nefarious digestive disease. You need to be more careful with diarrhea, just in case it is dysentery or something.

doniker (1535) -- 06.18.2007

I have a pool, always keep the chlorine well above 2.0 and the PH above 7.2, I'm a fanatic about it.

Being that I have the only pool in the neighborhood, my yard has always been a popular place with the kids and I'm sure some of the young ones have had less that clean asses and surely have peed in my pool.

But I never worry about germs in my pool.

Now a public lake, a public pool, a pool at a hotel, those are the type of things I worry about swimming in because I have no control of the maintenence.

DungDaddy (1369) -- 06.20.2007

SHOULD ALL FECAL ACCIDENTS BE TREATED THE SAME?
No.

A diarrheal fecal accident is a higher risk event than a formed stool accident.

Interesting. The real peoblem with a diarrheal event is that it's, well, diarrheal.

DungDaddy (1369) -- 06.20.2007

That's "problem." Must preview comments.

daphne (3514) -- 06.21.2007

I could edit that typo for you if you'd like, Mr. Daddy.

This was a wonderful poopreport. What I wonder most about, though, is how many people pee in the pool, because you know that we've probably all done it once in our lives.


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.....hugging bunnies since 1969
www.daphneszoo.com

SSpiffyPoo (32) -- 07.06.2007

A couple of comments here.

>What I wonder most about, though, is how many people pee in the pool,

Urine is sterile (unless you have a urinary tract infection), so no problem.

And we chlorinate the treatment plant effluent to 2 ppm with a detention time of ~40 minutes in the chlorine contact channel. Our effluent is consistently lower than 2 cfu (colony forming units) per 100 mL.


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I work at a poop plant, so I know whereof I speak.

SSpiffyPoo

P. Doody (14) -- 09.20.2007

This summer we went to the Disneyland resort in Anaheim, CA. We were enjoying our time at the hotel's pool when suddenly we see the pool get emptied of people. I may have been asleep, for I did not hear any lifeguard over the PA bellowing "get out" orders.

We felt sorry for whoever it was of the numerous parents whose child let a log (or brown cloud?!) free in the pool area. Fortunately, we had spent a few hours there so didn't feel ripped off. But for the new hotel patrons, this pool closure in late June must have been a major problem.

What was more interesting was that within 30 minutes of the pool sitting empty, some teenager comes into the pool area and promptly dives into the pool. We were all embarassed for him as his dad sternly told him to get out, while we all watched. Most likely, he was not in the pool area after the evacuation.

Deja Poo (612) -- 09.20.2007

Interesting. At several of the local pools, the rule seems to be 2 hours. I know that's the case at our local YMCA and at the county recreation centers. On the other hand, I know of one local country club that will not let in children with swim diapers.

It always seemed disingenuous to take away pool priveleges for families with little poopers. First, they're children. For shit's sake, this kind of activity is part and parcel of the human condition. Untold generations have had to endure this. If you've ever cleaned a baby's shitty bottom on a regular basis, you know it's almost impossible to clean out all of the shit from under your fingernails once that's happened. So, what are you going to do? Not go to work for a week to avoid infecting your co-workers? How are you going to go a week without jamming your fingers up your nose at least once?

Second, there are far more formidable and prevalent diseases than Cholera in the population. For example, we don't ban snot-nosed children or HIV-Positive individuals from the pool. And while it's understood that menstruating women shouldn't use the pool, we certainly don't ban them during their periods.

I really think that this whole thing is just the visual component. You can't see AIDS, urine, menstrual by-products, athlete's foot, lice and a host of other disease vectors in the pool. So, we all just push it out of mind and accept the risk when we do the cannon ball. Yet, let a little brown particle (or a little gastric acid, i.e. vomit) get into the pool and, suddenly, everybody is wigged out.

Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not advocating that we should all dive in after an accident. If a little decontamination time helps to calm the savages, then go for it. But diseases are there and, once you get in the pool, you accept the risk of living mano-a-mano with the unwashed masses of humanity.

And for those of you who are really grossed out by the whole notion of pool-borne diseases, please take a soap shower with shampoo before and after you use the pool.
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Yo quiero Taco Bell.

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