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Eternal Debates: The Handicrapper

Posted 12.10.2003 by Dave (11538)

THE ISSUE:
Can able-bodied folk use the handicrapper?

Justa Girl (not verified) -- 12.10.2003

From my perspective as the mother of a young child who is still a bit unreliable on her own in the bathroom, I don't hesitate to use the handicapped stall if I have my child with me. More space for both of us to be in there. I don't care that we're both able-bodied... taking a child out in public can be a bit of a handicap and I'll use the damn stall if I want to. I've never had someone in a wheelchair come into the bathroom during such an instance... and even if one did, I wouldn't be apologetic. Sometimes we have to wait in line for "regular" stalls. Won't kill them to wait 2 minutes for the handicapped stall, either.

The Big Wiper (2240) -- 12.10.2003

Justa makes a point I'd like to emphasize as well. It is my understanding that many disabled people try to 'mainstream' their lives as much as possible and don't want to be treated as helpless. Parking spaces have been provided and most bathroom facilities have been upgraded so that their wheelchairs can be accommodated. But in what sense is their need to poop and pee any more pressing than a non-disabled person?
I think common sense and courtesy in using these facilities makes alot more sense than some blanket rule or even some patronizing attitude towards disabled people. (BTW, my brother has recently fallen into this category with a diagnosis of a rare muscular condition--and I know he appreciates the parking spaces because he doesn't have to walk as far. He also takes more time now in the bathroom because of muscular support issues, although he is not in a wheelchair. He has told me, though, that while he appreciates the concessions to disabilities, he doesn't really want to be granted any special privileges in the pecking order of pooping.)

Big pooper (not verified) -- 12.10.2003

I am a very large person, not fat but 6' 5" with broad shoulders. I encounter many stalls, that if I used them, would leave my arms locked in a useless T-rex style pose and my knees would be ammed up against the door. I can't deal with that. Makes it harder to shit when you're jammed into a little metal box barely able to breath (though the lack of breathability may be good in some instances). On top of that being crammed in there makes it impossible to wipe without standing sideways in the stall. So, I always opt for the more generous size of the handicapped stall when I see grinch style stingy stalls.

ThreePly (not verified) -- 12.10.2003

I've had to shit so bad while out in public at times, that I consider it my own handicap. Therefore, I feel no shame in dropping my load off in the comforts of the handicapped stall. Typically it is cleaner and I'm not one to look a shithorse in the mouth. If a wheelchair-bound patron comes in, he'll just have to wait his turn like all the rest. My shit waits for no man.

Mudd (64) -- 12.10.2003

ThreePly makes a good point - they generally are cleaner. But, I am a normal sized dude - 5'11" and I am uncomfortable in the handicrappers as the bowl sits higher than a normal one. I have actually had my legs dangle in a handicapped stall and I have to have both feet planted when doing my dirty work.

Kung Poo (91) -- 12.10.2003

big pooper makes a good point. I'm already well over 6 foot and i'm only 14. while i'm in no way fat, if anything i need to gain weigh, i've found that normal toilets are usually so low to the ground i feel uncomfortable on them. Fuck the handicapped! we tall people need big toilets too.

PJbrownstuff (60) -- 12.10.2003

I almost exclusively use the handicrapper at work. It is bigger, has more room, and is always clean. How do they wipe anyway?

Grebuloner (not verified) -- 12.10.2003

I'm up with threeply, some shits wait for no man. My college dorm is a former hotel, and we all have bathrooms in our own rooms (cleaning it is worth it to almost never have to wait to crap). My room just happens to be one of the handicap accessible ones. I've gotten so used to it that going in to a handi stall is my thing...there's something about having those steel stablizing bars to hold on to that makes a good crap that much more enjoyable.

I have "seen" handicapped people in stalls, but it was usually the severely mentally disabled at my high school with an aid. There is a guy with MS on my floor that has to be helped on and off the toilet (he usually uses a bag on the run - or with the runs), a task I have not been asked to do yet, but would do if I needed to.

I usually check the vicinity (if I'm at a large mall or something) for any wheelchaired individuals before I enter the stall to drop my load. I think that everyone should. While I partly agree with Tyridium on the busyness issue, it's important to keep in mind that many parapalegics (or worse) can't keep the logs in the shed, and emergent disgusting situations arise. I'm all for waiting an extra turn so that the poor bastard can clean his trousers. I wish no evil that I wouldn't take on myself.

Grebuloner (not verified) -- 12.10.2003

I correct myself. I meant to refer to TBW, and not Ty. I apologize for my lapse in judgement.

The Shit Volcano (3646) -- 12.10.2003

When I am in a bathroom with multiple stalls I choose one of the regular stalls unless the room is really crowded. Then the handicapped stall is being used by everyone anyway.
Justa girl and Big pooper have good points too. Sometimes when you've got a little kid it's hard to use one of the little stalls to help with their business.
And, having two rather large parents, I can understand bigger people using the handicapped stall. In the case of my father his weight problem is do to a medical condition, so technically he is handicapped.
As for people who just hog the stall to jack off or snort cocaine, (and I have caught some) I hope you fall in and drown. You have no taste, brains, or self respect, nor do you care about those out there who NEED to use this stall.

Chip Brown (201) -- 12.10.2003

I have very narrow shoulders and I am FAT! Don't most of the wheelies have colostomy bags?

The other David (not verified) -- 12.10.2003

Well, it depends. Sometimes I use the larger stall if I know for a fact that no handicapped person would be present. If I see indeed a person who potentially may need such, I would then avoid making use of that larger stall, as a courtesy to him. But certainly, as I walk against red lights when no one or no traffic would be present, 'I most ceretainly do not deffer to air molecules!'

Poop-O-Matic (not verified) -- 12.10.2003

My interpretation on the use of the Handicrapper has always been loose (Just like my Bowels!). That is, do you have to be Handicapped BEFORE you enter the stall? God knows I've entered them able-bodied but left a fraction of my former self! I've walked in a cocky turd-slinger but crawled out on all fours.
My company has an HC stall in every bathroom, just like there's HC parking spaces outside. Isn't there a Federal mandate on providing a certain # of spaces/HC stalls? My point is, we have lots of HC stalls, but I never find a handicapped person entering/exiting one. Hmmm? It appears the general work populace treats it like just another Johnnie, but I'd be the first to give it up if I saw Professor Xavier's wheelchair appear at the stall door!

The Shit Volcano (3646) -- 12.10.2003

Ha ha!

Handi-hater (not verified) -- 12.10.2003

if it's the only one open, I aint waitin.

OopsiePoopsie (not verified) -- 12.10.2003

Before I weigh in on this one I have to say that I just started reading PR, and I’ve been thoroughly amused by the stores and impressed by the literary skill displayed here. I can’t remember when I’ve laughed so hard. You all (with the exception of the few rotten apples who try to ruin it for everyone) are geniuses!

As far as pooping in the handicrapper, I’d have no problem with it if it weren’t for the fact that I’m only 5’4” and my feet tend to dangle off the edge of the toilet when I sit down. Not a comfortable feeling, especially since I’m one who has to have both feet planted firmly on the ground when I’m pushing out my brown babies (like Mudd). It also has the tendency to cut off the circulation to my legs, which then makes for an embarassing exit after I'm done!

The Big Wiper (2240) -- 12.10.2003

There are, of course, instances in which the bathroom has been modified into just a one-staller handicrapper. I've seen quite a few of these facilities in my travels. Everyone takes their turn, one at a time, disability or not. If such a facility is occupied, a person with a disability has to wait under those circumstances.

If a pooper is in a multiple stall situation in a very busy bathroom (this can happen in airports a lot and, in fact, happened to me recently) and people are more or less waiting around for a toilet, the reality is that the principle of first-come, first-served kicks in. If all toilets are in use, and the handicrapper opens up first, unless there is someone in the room who is in that wheelchair or otherwise obviously or visibly disabled, then I don't see anything wrong with taking what's available and doing your business.

Under other circumstances, where there are plenty of available stalls, the non-disabled person should not opt for the handicrapper.

quasimoto (not verified) -- 12.10.2003

Ty, it might be the same thing, but I enjoy a deluxe-sized stall when I use a public shitter. Also, I've done some pretty sleazy things in the crapper that have nothing to do with taking a shit, so I like the extra size--makes it harder to see who and what is going on in there.

Tydirium (516) -- 12.10.2003

No! We've all heard the stories of a pooper pooping in the handicrapper when a wheelchair-bound fella rolls in. The reason they have handicrappers is so that they're there when they're needed. Same as parking spots -- you can't use them when there's no one there, because someone might need it when you're in the store. It's the exact same thing.

Artful Dodger (305) -- 12.11.2003

I always avoid the handicrappers. That isn't to say that I don't admire them and long for their wide open spaces when needing to pinch a loaf in public, but I learned the hard way to not take advantage of conveniences that weren't meant for my able-bodied self.

It all started innocently enough. I was walking through the mall when I felt the urge. I could have waited until I went home, but why delay the inevitable? There's more room out than in, as my grandad always says, so I made my way toward the restroom thinking to put myself at ease in that big, comfortable stall.

To my dismay as I rounded the sinks, an elderly man was wheeling into my stall. My stall! Quick as a wink I yanked the door open before he could shut it completely, grabbed the old dude, and wheeled him to the food court where I parked him behind that giant cardboard cow in front of Chik-Fil-A. I locked the brakes on his chair, and figured that would give me plenty of time to take care of business before someone found him. No one pays attention to old people anyway, and that goes double if they're in a wheelchair. I think it's because they feel guilty to be young. And walking. I hotfoot it back to the stall, and to my great joy discovered old dude had dropped the sports section of the newspaper when I ambushed him.

The movement itself was rather disappointing so I won't mention it. I read the sports section all the way through anyway, and that turned out to be my downfall. When I finally emerged from the restroom, who should I find waiting for me but the old wheelchair dude and about 30, or at least 7 or 8 other old dudes. There was one other guy too, but he wasn't old, just fat. He was on one of those Weasel scooters though, so I guess that's why they let him come along. They backed me against the wall and then all took turns accelerating toward me at the breakneck speed of 3 1/2 miles an hour. I think the idea was to knock me down so they could leave scooter tracks on my back, but they only managed to bang my shins a couple of times before I broke free and ran off searching for an exit. The Feeble Mafia was right behind me though, and for a while I wasn't sure I was going to get away.

Ever seen that movie Freaks? It's an old black and white film that was made around 1850 or something like that, and it's got a no-legs guy that walks on his hands and maybe a bearded lady too. I don't remember. Anyway there's this point in the movie where they gang up on this lady chanting "Now you're one of us!" over and over. It was pretty creepy. The thought of getting caught and turned into an old dude too really spooked me and gave me the extra burst of speed I needed to get away.

And that's why I never use the handicrapper anymore. It's also why I don't like to go back to the mall. I'm afraid I'll meet up with those scary old dudes, and even the goth kids laugh at me until I chase them back into Hot Topic.

Bub (not verified) -- 12.11.2003

Hey Dodger,

If that story was fake, it was a poor attempt at humor. If it's true, you deserve a permanent butt plug.

Artful Dodger (305) -- 12.11.2003

Hey Bub, you were the fat guy, weren't you? I'm sorry I spilled your curly fries.

Nincompoop (not verified) -- 12.11.2003

I think that anyone with a big brown buick knocking at the backdoor can be considered, at least temporarily, handicapped.

The Shit Volcano (3646) -- 12.11.2003

You've got a point, Nincompoop.

nunyabizz (not verified) -- 12.11.2003

Chip Brown wrote: "Don't most of the wheelies have colostomy bags?"
I was just curious as to why the hell you would think that? As I have previously stated, I am a c.n.a. in a n.h. with lotsa folks in wheelchairs and none of them have colostomy bags. Some have catheters though. Is that what you meant? It's a bag for piss, not shit. Just wondering....

shbizl (not verified) -- 12.11.2003

In all honesty, I don't think I've ever used a regular-sized crapper. I typically wait, if a handicapped person is using the handicrapper, to use it myself. Sorry, but it's the nicest one around.

The Big Wiper (2240) -- 12.11.2003

Dodger is right about the movie, 'Freaks.' It is a very disturbing film and difficult to watch. Saw excerpts from it once on some cable channel and had nightmares later that week.

Jaid (not verified) -- 12.12.2003

I almost always use the handicapped stall. I am not very graceful and always end up backing up and leaning backwards over the toilet when trying to open the door of a normal stall (which of COURSE has to swing INSIDE!), and I do not relish the thought of slipping and ending up on the toilet seat. Normal stalls are too confining, in the matter of width and length.
I also like the height of the handicapped toilet. I'm 5'4" and it is the perfect height for me.
Also, there's usually a sink and mirror in the handicapped stall, so I can wash my hands, comb my hair, etc. in privacy.

nunyabizz (not verified) -- 12.13.2003

Wow! None of the handicapped stalls I have ever used had a sink and mirror in them! That would be great!

Shameful_Shite (not verified) -- 12.13.2003

When I'm at a theatre waiting for 3 1/2 for a fucking stall I don't give it a second thought to use the handicapped stall. If I'm at school I'll use any of the stalls available. If I ever see some girl who's handicapped or something before I walk into the stall (I mean like wheel-chaired people'z) I'll let them go first. Well it all really depends on the urgency, and if their urgency. I dunno...I'm weird like that.

Mobutu (not verified) -- 12.14.2003

I ALWAYS shit in the handicapped stall

i go for the Cadillacs of bathroom stalls

After all, I am usually handicapped by a large Cosby kid prairiedogging its way out

waytoofedup (not verified) -- 12.14.2003

When will George W. Bush be featured in Th Poop Report? After all, he's full of s**t, isn't he?

nunyabizz (not verified) -- 12.14.2003

prairiedogging it's way out?!?!?! ah hahahahaha!

Snapper (168) -- 12.14.2003

This topic came up on the forums before: http://www.poopreport.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=12985

T.J. Crapper (not verified) -- 12.14.2003

In a lot of bathrooms I've been in around here the stalls other than the handicrapper don't even have doors, or are terribly small. Seriously. I have to have room when I crap and I have to have privacy. If you're in a wheelchair, tough. You'll need to wait, better thee than me pal.

Chop Pooey (not verified) -- 12.15.2003

Irregular, are we, Doniker?
I prefer to use the handicrapper, when available, as regular stalls are so small and the geniuses who designed them, have the doors opening inward, so that one has to step back towards the toilet and I hate having my clothing brush up against the loo. I just prefer to have room to move around and not touch the toilet with my clothing. I've noticed that at my workplace, the handicrapper appears to be the stall of choice for people to drop their loads, it's usually the stinky one.

Lady Ballbuster (not verified) -- 12.15.2003

My philosophy is simple: I only use the handicrapper if 1) the other stalls are already occupied, and 2) if there isn't a handicapped person present who needs the facilities.

TJ Crapper: That "tough" comment really sucks. I'd hate to be in your shoes when your karma comes back to you, with an attitude like that. When you're old and confined to a wheelchair, barely able to control your sphincter, I hope some young person with your attitude occupies the handicrapper, and forces you to shit yourself.

Arnold Xanadu (not verified) -- 12.15.2003

Why yes, the Handicrapper, or as I like to call it, the Executive Stall, should be open to whomever needs it. Like somebody earlier here said, often it is the only stall in a smaller bathroom, in which case there is no choice. Even if there are others available, I see no reason why someone in a wheelchair can't wait a couple of minutes before blowing their colon out. In my humble opinion, the handicrapper is there so a handicapped person CAN go to the john, not necessarily so that person can go IMMEDIATELY! We all have to shove a cork in it sometimes and wait.

The Shit Volcano (3646) -- 12.17.2003

I've never understood those inward opening doors myself. Most of the locks in the women's room are broken and once I had a turd burglar just about break my damn nose! Handicapped stalls are nice because this doesn't happen.

daphne (3325) -- 12.22.2003

The "special needs" stall is for the handicapped so that they can have a place to poo in. That is it. It is not for line-jumping.
Should I tell my 7 year old daughter she can't run up the handicapped ramp anymore?
No.
Should the stall sit empty at a busy restaurant?
No.
I honestly think we have forgotten that is it there so people with special needs have the proper equipment for them, but it is still a toilet, and if someone has to pee, they should get to pee in the same order they got into the restroom in.
And, by the way, I am the one in line who will let people with children and people who look like they are going to burst ahead of me, so I am not an asshole.
I just respect mine as much as yours.

Fire Dragon (not verified) -- 01.08.2004

I notice the handicrapper is usually spotless and well stocked... looks like turd terrorists have a soft spot for those that use the handicrapper... Plus that extra high toilet is perfect for my extra tall body... and the extra big toilet seat fits my rear so nicely... (I want one of those toilets at home!!) it's like my own big throne... and so, I'm ashamed to admit, I use the handicrapper.

Poonurse (1313) -- 01.09.2004

I figure it's bad enough they have their own parking spots.

The day they post $100 fines for crapping in the handicrapper is the day I'll stop. Til then, it's the stall of choice for me.

the shit reaper (not verified) -- 01.09.2004

all of you "handicrapper is the stall of choice for me" people... you... inconsiderate assholes... that's ok, though i'll be seeing you real soon. start counting your shits

poop master poopy (not verified) -- 01.13.2004

Pooping is very important i think it should be honored so i use the big stall to honor it i need some room when i poop

sensitive stomach (not verified) -- 01.15.2004

Listen, some of you folks lack reason. The reason there are parking stalls only for the handicapped is so they do not have a long distance to enter the store, etc. due to their "impediment". Public buildings are required to provide "facilities" for the handicapped so that they are able to "go". The handicapped are not "pardoned" from waiting like the non-handicapped. Though, if a handicapped person is present, let them go first.

PeanuttyBubbles (not verified) -- 01.23.2004

Okay, I appreciate that we make allowances for the handicap, but who says they they don't have to wait? So I pee in their john, they can wait. Have you ever seen a handicap person waiting for another handicap person to get done in there? hell no. If they want to be mainstream ( no pun here) then learn how to wait like the rest of us. Nuff said.

umpa poopa (not verified) -- 01.27.2004

yes if you have to drop a cleaveland stamer bad enough i say why not the handi will comprehend because after all hes in the same situation!!!

Poonurse (1313) -- 01.30.2004

We are all equal when it comes to pooping in public, is the way I see it. They can hold it, the *uckers.

Commode-O Dragon (107) -- 02.06.2004

Whoa, looks like I got in on the tail end of the debate. Likewise, I'll second the comment from Big Pooper. I'm 6'3" with very broad shoulders as well. I recall one urinal stall (which was actually just the side of a bathroom stall and a concrete wall) in bathroom of my college on campus suite that was so tight, I had to put my hand up in the air on the wall in front of the urinal just to be able to fit my shoulders in to take a leak! Likewise, the bathroom stalls in that bathroom were so small that my knees would bump the door when it closed if I did not spread my legs, which luckily is my prefered position when going #2. In public, I most always go straight for the handicap stall due to these size considerations. The handicrapper in the library of my college was the nicest I've ever seen. Immaculately clean, spacious and with very tall toliet, perfect for my long legs.

Commode-O Dragon (107) -- 02.06.2004

Just one more thing. I just did some research and excluding scooters, only 0.64% of Americans use wheelchairs. That means that if we all adhered to the policy of always reserving the handicapped stall for people in wheelchairs, that stall would get only get used less than once per hundred shits in a restroom! For example, I'm thinking of Super Wal-Mart restrooms, which service hundreds of people per store everyday. The men's restrooms are typically outfitted with two urinals, a regular shitter stall and a handicrapper. Now just think, if the handicapped stall was soley intended for use by wheelchair bound people, 0.64% of the population, then why is 50% of the toliets devoted to their use?? The only fesible answer to this question is, the handicap stall is intended for everyone.

Tydirium (516) -- 02.08.2004

Commode-O Dragon: That's a really good point. There aren't many people who NEED handicrappers. But that's not the reason they're there. They are there because we are an enlightened society in which the great masses are willing to give up some of their rights and comfort in order to help the unfortunate few.

freakazoid (not verified) -- 02.08.2004

Or point out their differences for the whole world to ridicule!

Turd Burglar (84) -- 02.09.2004

I enjoy using the handi-crapper because it is so spacious. Theres one at my school that is so big that it has a curtain instead of a metal door! thats huge!

Thepaperhog (not verified) -- 05.08.2004

Truth be known, I think the higher throne in the handicrapper is inconvenient for the following reason. ANY TIME I take a shit for more than ten minutes or so my freakin' legs fall asleep - you know what I mean, when you have to spend several minutes standing around, unable to walk, while it feels like you've just been abused by an army of porcupines........well, the handicrapper reduces my 'crap window' down to just a few minutes - good only if it's a clean poopie but unacceptable if a little time is required to thoroughly drain my bowels..........

Poop-a-scoop (not verified) -- 05.20.2004

Handy-folk must wait in line, just like everybody else. How come it's worse waiting for a able-bodied logger than a fellow handy-captain? I'm sure I can do the business a lot quicker than a wheelie-dumper. Let them wait.

make a swish foundation (not verified) -- 05.27.2004

Yes, Yes, Yes. Of course use the handicrap stall under all conditions. If its crowded , if its empty. It does not matter. A larger more private stall makes it easier and better to reverse maw. However I will make this point. If by some very slim cance I am filiming crocodile dungee and a disabled person knocks on the door of the stall as says dude I need to cassh out. I will pay the piper, I will squeeze, primary wipe, and finsh at another stall or wait outside, even if it means a shit in my pants. You can use the hanidcrapper but if they come a knockin you must vacate within 30 seconds if they sound urgent or 2 minutes if they can wait.

Feeding the HC (not verified) -- 06.01.2004

Here at my work we have 3 stalls and 3 urinals. I always use the HC as the other 2 are so damn small you almost have to back into them. That stainless steel bar makes a big difference too when you need the extra torque to squeeze out a mortar!! I feed that HC at least twice a day. I have a co-worker that I IM every time I feed the HC. He does the same back to me it is a hoot. My goal for the last 3.5 years has been to choke that bastard HC and I did that yesterday with a mad hella loaf.

Farterman567 (not verified) -- 06.05.2004

I like to use the handicapp stall despite what it is supposed to be used for. I like the fact that some have sinks, with full soap dispensers. I find it nasty, and disrespectful though, if someone uses the stall for masturbating or drugs, like The Sh*t Volcano mentioned.

Handi-crapped :-) (not verified) -- 06.23.2004

Being a handicapped person, I must say, I find this all amuing. Not all hanicapped people have "shit and piss bags" And sorry to point this out but your handicapped attitude is far worse that my disabilty.

werewolf pooping on trees (not verified) -- 08.20.2004

I use the handicapped stall whenever I can. For those of you who think you shouldn't use it, remember- there may be a situation where you are about to crap/pee your pants. would you rather walk around covered in excrement or use the handcrapper?
Also, don't say anything bad about people who use the handicapped stall- there could be some handicapped people on this site that you may be insulting.

Ricky (not verified) -- 08.29.2004

I'm really tall and the handicrapper was really high up at the place I used to work at, and I worked at night so I used it all the time.
The place I was working at(Motorola) didn't let handicapped people work at night.
Nice and high off the ground, leg/knee angle was ideal.
Makes me think about if I ever get rich, I'm gonna get one of my two toilets in my house converted/lifted.

Poopie (not verified) -- 10.01.2004

The handicapped stall rules! I always use the handicapped stall if it's available, even though I'm able-bodied. I like handicapped stalls because they're bigger and so much more roomy. Sometimes they even have thier own private sink inside which gives me total privacy, like a mini private bathroom within a public washroom. Never in my life have I ever seen a handicapped person come in to the bathroom while I was in the handicapped stall, so I don't see any problem with my continuing to make use of it at every opportunity.

The Shit Volcano (3646) -- 11.03.2004

As I have said before, the handicapped bathroom should only be used in an emergency if you do not have a handicap. I only use it if I have no other option.

The Artist Form... (21) -- 11.23.2004

People who use the handicapped stall and aren't handicapped, if there are other options available, should be shot. ESPECIALLY if it's someone with children. Children are not a handicap.
Oh, and Mr. "only .64 percent of Americans are wheelchair users" is an idiot. People sometimes have to use wheelchairs temporarily.
Also, you don't have to be a wheelchair user to be handicapped in a way that you really need to use that stall.
For example, I've had a recurring injury to my leg that sometime leaves me in a rigid brace that extends from the top of my thigh to my ankle and having to use crutches to get around. My bathroom activities at this juncture must proceed with the following ritual.
1. Hop into stall, balance on crutches to shut door and latch.
2. Hop to toliet, balance on one leg while placing crutches on wall, praying they do not slide down onto the floor.
3. Grab rails and balance slightly on toliet.
4. Undo the six or so Velcro straps on my brace and ease it off carefully while keeping leg straight or just barely bent.
5. Place brace on wall, praying especially that it, too, does not end up on floor.
6. Undo pants
7. Use rails to sit on toliet, balancing so my leg does not bend much.
After business has been completed, I must now do everything in reverse order. The whole thing takes almost 10 minutes.
One time, whilst encumbered, I was waiting outside the stall rather urgently, as on top of everything else, I had a bladder infection. I asked, after a couple minutes, when I acertained that there was an adult with at least one child in there, "Excuse me, could you please hurry?"
I got a nasty hissed reply that they were busy. From voices I heard, it seems there was not one child in there, but several. Who were going, one right after the other.
"Please! This is an emergency!" I said, louder, as my bladder was on DEFCON 1. The reply was vulgar, around the lines of "hold your f***ing horses!" Meanwhile she's chatting with her kids about where they're going to eat, when's Daddy going to be home, yes you can get an ice cream cone...and so on.
She emerged about five minutes later with not one, not two, but THREE children, two of which were damn well old enough to crap on their own. With a stroller.
I almost had tears coming from my eyes from the pain of waiting, I'm standing here, balanced on crutches, with a large orthopedic brace on one leg, and she had the nerve to look at me like I'M the asshole here!
I almost clouted her with my crutch. Oh, yeah, did I forget to mention I had pissed myself by now?
Someone else in the bathroom with me (a friend who went in before I did, and waited until I was done) said she watched the woman sail blithely past the open stalls to go into the handicrapper.
People do this ALL the time. I've lost count at how many women bring all the kids in there. Sometimes, it's just one, and she's changing a diaper, even though there's one of those diaper change stations. I've also seen women go in there alone, but with tons of bags...like being a shopaholic is a handicap.
I have no problem with use of the handicrapper if it's the only one open. I've done it myself. And when I've had the brace on, I didn't get mad at anyone who came out of there when, say there's a line for ANY stall. That's fine. Use it quickly, and get the hell out.
The stalls are not for changing clothes (you can see that happen too, if you happen to be peeking), they're not for family use (unless you have a handicapped child), and they're not for storing your stroller, carrier, or ton of bags. They're for people who, for some reason or another, cannot use a regular stall because of some physical problem. Period.
If you hear someone ask you nicely to hurry up--DO IT! It probably is someone who's handicapped.
And if it is someone who's handicapped, saying sorry does help.

Jobber (not verified) -- 04.23.2005

Here in the UK the Law now requires that new Public Buildings, Factories, Offices, Shopping Malls, etc have Disabled Access Toilets.

Now most of the time these are empty as the proportion of the Disabled or Handicapped in the population is not high. It is utter nonsense NOT to use these toilet cubicles (stalls) if they are vacant and in the need. Obviously if one of the Disabled is in the toilet (rest room) and wishes to use it then let them have preference but if not in use and the other cubicles are occupied only a fool would take the risk of wetting or shitting their underwear and refuse to use a vacant toilet to relieve their needs.

I have often used the Disabled Toilet (Handicrapper) when the others have been occupied and there are none of the Disabled around and nobody has said a thing against. A toilet is a toilet in my opinion. Also my girlfriend tells me that women with children will use the Handicapped Stall in Ladies Public Toilets as it is easier to manage a child or children in such a larger cubicle. What should they do, let the kid crap its panties instead or struggle with it in a small and narrow ordinary stall?

In my place of work we have the interesting situation that we did have a wheechair bound operative and the Management adapated one of the cubicles both in the Men's and Women's Toilets to suit such people. About a year later that person left and we currently do not have anyone so handicapped working there. Naturally the specially adapted Toilets are still used by staff, and visitors both able bodied and the occasional wheelchair bound guest .

A bit of common sense is needed here not schmaultzy sentimentality. If there are other ordinary toilet cubicles empty then use them instead but if these are full, you need to urinate or defecate and there are no disabled about then use the "Handicrapper". Such special cubicles are adaptations to suit the Disabled but NOT to exclude the Able-Bodied user if otherwise unoccupied.

Finally I asked a wheechair user what they thought about this question and their answer was, "Use the Disabled Toilet if the others are occupied, don't piss or shit your underwear!" Nuff said!

toolazytothinkofclevername (not verified) -- 06.30.2005

Really, why sould the handicapped get their own stall? What sort of classism is this?! I mean, we don't have "Whites only" bathrooms anymore! I understand that the facilities for them are necessary, but the concept that they should be able to take a crap before I do is ludicrous. They can wait like everyone else

toolazytothinkofclevername (not verified) -- 06.30.2005

Really, why sould the handicapped get their own stall? What sort of classism is this?! I mean, we don't have "Whites only" bathrooms anymore! I understand that the facilities for them are necessary, but the concept that they should have shitting priority is ludicrous. They can wait like everyone else

Anonymous Coward (not verified) -- 11.23.2005

I don't use the hand cap stall because it is harder to tell if someone is in there. I don't want anyone coming in on me.

The Shit Volcano (3646) -- 02.11.2006

I don't use a "hand cap" stall either. What is that, a public place to masturbate?

Sticky (not verified) -- 09.02.2006

There's always a split second when I hover outside the toilet doors and look at the door with the female sign on it and the door with the wheelchair on it, during which time I'm weighing up the pros and cons of each at the speed of light before deciding and entering.

Sometimes I'll try pushing the door and rattling the handle of the handicrapped toilet and it's locked, then I feel guilty and reluctantly use the able-bodied toilet. I imagine some poor wheelchair user trying to get themself from wheelchair to toilet or vice versa and wonder if I've distracted or hindered them.

If there are other people in the able-bodied toilets, I sit looking at the door, waiting until there is silence before curling one out. Sometimes I'm sitting in position with my modesty round my ankles for up to 5 minutes (5 minutes is a long time in this situation). The thought of other people hearing the plopping sounds fills me with a deep sense of fear and embarrassment.

When I'm done, I feel self-conscious looking at myself in a mirror in front of others.

In a handicrapped toilet I can make as much noise as I want when shitting, and you can be sure there will always be toilet roll. I can also spend as much time as I like touching up my make up and looking at myself from different angles in the big mirror in privacy.

Having said that, I always feel like I'm shitting against the clock when using a handicrapped toilet. I do always check for wheelchair users beforehand and if there are any in the vicintiy that could potentially want to go I avoid it and give them priority, but some of them can wheel faster than you think, and I think I'd shit myself if anyone banged on the door while I was in.

Anonymous Coward (not verified) -- 09.07.2006

I like the handicrappers cuz my farts echo in there. Besides, I'm handicapped - I'm stoopid.

Anomalous Coward (686) -- 09.18.2006

As with any rule there are legitimate exceptions. For instance: you just took a triple dose of TurboLax the previous night. The earthly remains of your past two or three meals have signalled their intent to debark from your rectum imminently and urgently. There are no handicapped people waiting in the restroom, and the handicapped stall is the only one not occupied. I think the average reasonable human would rather you take care of your business in there than walk around the store/office/whatever after having thoroughly shit your pants.

The Thunderous ... (651) -- 12.02.2006

In a code brown shituation if the handicrapper is available I will use it. Yes we should check for people in wheelchairs before we go in that is common courtesy glad to see most of you do that. The acoustics are wonderful also which makes it even more tempting to use but remember etiquette check for wheelchairs first. You dont have that advantage in a parking lot.

Anonymous Mother (not verified) -- 02.18.2007

It depends. If there's several available AND the normal ones are not built for midgets, the I will use a normal one, UNLESS it is a day where I am having hip pain, and may discover halfway through sitting down that I need to rails to both sit in a controlled fashion and to get up to standing again. I've dealt with trying to get up while a hip is saying "fuck off" enough that I tend to err on the side of caution on that.

We always dealt with the kid thing by sending them with their dad to go potty, since we had boys. But I generally sent them into a regular stall and waited at the door. Given that I am a large woman, I tended to provide said small boy plenty of privacy during the process.

I'll also add that some bathrooms stick the diaper changing shelf in the handicap stall. So there you are.

healthy 1 (1421) -- 10.12.2007

I agree with The Tuderous Crapper.

The only time I use the handicrapper is when I get a "rushcall" to the bathroom, and the handicrapper is the ony stall available.

Other than that, I try to keep the handicrapper free for its indended use.
_______
"Two percent of the population think; three percent of the population think they think, and 95 percent of the population would rather die than think."

RoboCrap13 (309) -- 10.12.2007

I use the Handi-crapper under 2 circumstances.

1. The Brown Berets are on the jump ramp and the Sarge is halfway out of the plane.

2. Security at the mall. The H/C is usally against a wall which will allow me to place my stuff where nobody can grab it from under the stall dividers.
_______
You have the right to remain Silent but Deadly....

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