Eternal Debates: The Warm Toilet Seat

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THE ISSUE:

A seat warmed up by someone else's butt. Your thoughts?

112 Comments on "Eternal Debates: The Warm Toilet Seat"

C Everett Poop's picture
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In a public toilet: Gross
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Ew. Not even if it's dead winter and the toilet water is frozen and my ass is frost-bitten.

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I like a warm seat, but if it has been warmed up by someone else, it just doesn't feel right. It has less of a warm feeling and more of a dirty feeling. It also causes me to become afraid of splashback during that visit. You would wash the bowl with boiling bleach, but if that seat is warm because of someone else, I will constantly feel dirty and afraid of splashback.

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If someone keeps the seat warm you should tape a thank you note to the stall wall.

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If it is from the buns of the one I love, I am very pleased. Anything short of that, is rather disturbing. I do not want to sit on my mother's but warmth. *shiver*

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Sam, in your position as comment editor, you should know that "butt" is spelled with 2 Ts.
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Datgummit! That's it! I am going to take the honorable way out. I will be commiting sepooku at dawn!
(that misspelling of "sepuku", was intentional)

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The dread of sitting on a cold seat in winter, while not welcome, is anticipated and tolerable. Expecting cold and getting warmth is unsettling at best, and downright disturbing at times.

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I couldn't ever make a toilet seat warm for the next person..... I don't put out enough body heat.

Jobber's picture
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If some pretty woman has been sitting on it to drop an nice big log immediatelly before me then this is a turn on but not if it has been some man, especially if he has done a loose poo or had the runs and the stink is still hanging in the air.

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if its a public toilet i dont like that but if its at home its ok but even if somone dont sit on my seat our radiator is right next to it :D

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Give me a nice, cold, clean toilet seat, every time.

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I was in a jail one time where they pumped the hot shower water thru thru one of those industrial jailhouse toilets. It was the greatest thing ever.

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I can tolerate a warm seat if I see who has used the toilet last. If he is a clean looking person, no problem. I probably wouldn't even bother wiping the seat off. If he appears to be a slob... use another toilet

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MMMMMM........a warm seat nothing better on a frosty day when there is no heat in the outhouse

Log Flume's picture
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There is nothing worse then the feeling of someone else's "Butt Heat". especially with the savage mutants I work with. BLECGH!!!!!

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I can't stand a warm seat, no matter if I see or know who used it last. I'd prefer not to share in the heat generated by their ass, thankyouverymuch.

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This discussion overlaps with another one from Dave earlier in the year, 'Preferred Toilet Seat Material.

There is also an article by 'Teddy Nutmeg' on his aversion to warm public seats, though he doesn't mind if staying with family.

Along with many other topics in PoopReport, this really is an ETERNAL debate, which will never be settled.

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As others have expressed, it depends on whose butt provided the warmth. However, in most cases a warm seat is caused by a butt I'd rather not think about, and the warmth forces me to do that. And frankly, there are lots of people I'd rather not have come and sit immediately on a seat I've warmed either, because I don't want them thinking about my butt.

Logjam

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I'm sorry but I don't see the problem. For six months, every day, my mates at university followed each other every morning in quick succession on the one solitary bog in the house we shared. Three and a half years on, none of us has developed any AIDS or any other sexually transmitted disease. The guy who had crapped, when he had wiped his bum, always wiped the seat and then flushed it away. That was a bit of etiquette we developed among ourselves.

I was always told that any germs on the toilet seat would die immediately.

Having said that, my dad impressed on me that sometimes in life it comes to all of us to use a public toilet for reasons other than a pee, and he showed me how to wipe the seat with toilet paper, before I undid my belt, let alone sat down. I always did that at school.

I can't get uptight about sitting on a warm seat, if it is time for me to go.

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I have an electrically-warmed toilet seat in my house :D No butts needed to warm it.

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I'm OK with a warm seat provided I know the warmer and am comfortable with him/her but otherwise no way give, me a cold one.

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Warm seats are disgusting! I am a germophobic and all I can imagine are all the germs left in the ass sweat of the previous sitter.

Then again, when the seat is cold it's far more disgusting because the bacteria can breed better at the colder temperature...

Excuse me, I have to go sterilize my toilet seat.

I found Jesus! He was behind the sofa the whole time!

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whether you know the warmer or not, i think its a pleasant suprise.

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Artificially warmed: great

Biologically warmed: ew

An electric toilet seat would be a brilliant idea.

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Biologically warmed. This is why some toilet seats spotaneously combust.

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They already make electronic heated toilet seats, has anyone tried one of these:

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Sweet! I've never used one, though.

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at home, a prewarmed seat is awesome! outside the home, it just gives me the willies. I am fairly phobic to public facilities anyway... I always use a paper barrier in the vain hope of a small amount of separation between my cheeks and the seat. (in public facilities). It is not a good barrier for thermal insulation, however.

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I have no problem with warm or cold seats. I just get perturbed if there is no seat at all. This is quite common in some public facilities in England and indeed in some not so public.

Pantsdown Pete

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'Give a crap' (12.04.2005) says, obviously with relish:
'MMMMMM........a warm seat nothing better on a frosty day when there is no heat in the outhouse'.
I heartily concur.
When I was aged three, I stayed with my gran and granddad while my mum went into hospital to have my baby sister. For a few weeks before, I went to stay with them for a day or two a week. The idea was for me to get used to it, and to look upon it as a treat, not for my parents to get me out of the way. My grandparents and my teenage uncle, still at home, gave me a good time. My mother and her brother had not been the best of friends when she lived at home, because she bossed him about (as she still does ME!) When I was born, they started to get on better. He was pleased about being an uncle, and she was pleased at the way he took an interest in me.
I kept up my normal life as much as possible, and my grandparents lived near enough to take me to my playgroup each day. But each morning either my granddad or my uncle would take me to the outside toilet. I had grown out of the potty stage with a child seat at home. But there, it was different - either using a potty or sitting on the old fashioned wooden 'shelf' in the outhouse. (The child seat was no good for THAT toilet.) The middle lifted up for males, to cater for the majority of male visits.
The decision was made to let me look FORWARD rather than BACKWARDS, and to sit on this strange toilet rather than revert to the potty. I liked to go with my uncle rather than my granddad. My uncle let me see him sitting on the toilet, and I wanted to be a 'big boy' like him. I already had a good morning routine after breakfast, and he took me out with him. Sitting on that seat was something of an adventure for me. The wood meant that it wasn't too cold, though sometimes the general temperature was. It flushed with a chain which I couldn't reach, though I was lifted up to pull it. (As I got older, and went to 'sit outside' - the code among the males at my grandparents' house - they lengthened the chain handle with some rope when I was going to stay.) There was an eiderdown kept to put round our legs. The rule was that trousers and underpants had to be down as far as possible without taking them off. They taught me to wipe my bottom, partly to give my parents one less task to do when my baby sister was born. (My parents never neglected me, but I grew up wanting to do more personal tasks for myself.)
That outside toilet was well lagged to stop it freezing up or pipes bursting, and sometimes there was a small oil stove out there. This would now be considered dangerous, and it was turned off if I was going in on my own. My baby sister was born in the winter, when it WAS cold. But later on I usually stayed with them in warmer weather, and I LOVED being 'Knickersdown Nicholas' every morning, sitting on that 'shelf' for my daily shit. Granddad was very tolerant, because when I was smaller, he had to re-varnish the front panel of the toilet. As my feet didn't touch the ground, I had to have something to push against, to get me started, and I dug my feet on the front panel. (If the weather was good, I wore trainers or sandals, which caused less damage.) As I got bigger, I could reach the floor with the tip of my toes. (I also learned to lift up each buttock separately which eased things somewhat.)
They had to make sacrifices in getting my uncle through college and university, and it was many years before they could afford indoor facilities.
I am glad that I became 'toilet-confident' at such an early age. I grew up believing that health was more important than pride.
But give me a WOODEN seat any day!

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Nicholas, I thoroughly enjoyed reading your recollections of early days on the crapper and how it was bound with family relations. It was a soothing antidote to the potent stuff we usually inhale here. Please consider working this up into a story you could submit to Dave for the front page, where it would receive the attention it deserves. You could be The Big Wiper of the UK.

Logjam

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Warm is better than cold. Someone elses's butt warmth is a welcome thought in freezing cold outhouse temperatures versus having your buttcheeks stuck to the seat like a tongue to a flagpole. Other than the frostbite issue, others butt-radiance is an icky thought, especially if there is boody-sweat left on the seat. cheers! poop-shooter

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Now, here is a note from history. I just finished teaching a Sunday School series on Paul's letter to the Ephesians, and my research reveals that the public toilets at Ephesus (one of the largest and wealthiest cities of the day) were all made of marble.

MARBLE!! Get it, thou best beloved Pr's? Do you have any idea how COLD marble gets, and how LONG it takes to warm up? No, you don't, but the wealthy Ephesians did. Each morning, the Master would send his Servant down to the toilets an hour early, to claim a spot on one of the marble thrones (people must have been more regular in that day). The Servant would sit there, forbidden by law and custom to poop himself, but--literally--using how own butt to warm the seat for his Master.

This was always a "secret" between Master and Servant; hence the etiology of our present term "secretary."

I have two secretaries, Fartis and Windy, and I have failed miserably at getting them to see the fun in this arrangement.

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Logjam - I am flattered by your compliments, but thanks, I will stick to making relevant comments to other people's articles.

At Christmas, my uncle as an extra 'joke' present, bought me a copy of the book about privies in the county where we grew up, and also gave my grandparents a copy. He had seen them 'remaindered' in a bookshop.

We have often talked about that glimpse of the past which we experienced, when most homes had indoor 'mod cons'.

This led me to surf the net, and somehow it led me to 'PoopReport'.

It was very prominent in my young life (and my uncle's).

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Nasty!!! (**NASS-TAY**) I can see that I'm preaching to the choir here but the unexpected warmth of a seat in a public urinal is NEVER pleasant. That's why I prefer "the perch." Boobs on knees, one arm on doorhandle to help w/a quick ascent to avoid splashback, other arm usually holding up the bottom of my Gianormous winter coat (as I'm in MN & that's the norm Nov-Feb.) Wiping happens sans seat contact.-Thank God for pilates! As it can be a bit of a contortionists trick.- My Mom raised me w/a completely prohibitive approach to seat contact. You had to use a cover @ all times (I still prefer 2 if I have a choice b/c the left behind hover droplets of other ladies usually soak through.) Wiping IS doable people- just grab a giant wad that gives you adequate finger coverage- then swipe it & drop it! The only benefit to cleaning up after others is that the tossed TP helps prevent splashing. But still, why +add+ to the problem? I mean.. if you make a mess -right on.- It's your party baby! -But let's clean up our own funk, ok? And don't heat the seat unless your home w/ a good book & a warning for your roomate...peace and pass the ammunition!

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Left behind droplets soak through? That's why you wipe the seat before you put your ass gaskets down, Phantom!

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I don't even like sitting on a warm CHAIR! I like some cool-down time between uses, thanks.


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You aren't cleaning them for use on Dumpster by any chance, are you, GGG?

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No, Dumpie; you can come out from behind the stove, now. But it IS pretty comedic timing that I remembered that saying today, huh? :)


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In his autobiographical "Boy" Roald Dahl tells how, as a junior at his public school, he was obliged to warm the seat for the prefect he "fagged" for, for fifteen minutes on cold winter's mornings before the senior pupil would deign to use it.
As few of us can afford such conveniences in these straightened times, I would appreciate a little serious debate about the availability of warm toilet seat covers. The Japanese apparently do these, and they may be available in the US, but not to my knowledge in the UK.

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I don't mind a warmed toilet seat, as long as it in my own home, not in a public restroom.
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I attend a large 1,550-student combined middle school and high school building. The most used girls' bathroom is in the main hallway that connects the gym, auditorium, cafeteria, and music complex. There are 15 stalls, all but two have doors, but if you need to go fast during the 4 minute passing periods you most likely will have to wait for a doored stall.
While me and my friends wait for a doored stall you can't help but notice that the seats in the two open stalls are wet--girls squat fast and take off even faster for class. There's a 5th grader, though, that me and my friends refer to as Mop. She walks through the line and and plops herself down on the wet seat. It's groooss! She then pulls her panties and jeans up and goes tearing off to class. It's more "inviting" for the next person to use the stall because Mop has done her job. I would NEVER sit on a wet school toilet seat, but Mop seems to have no problem with it. Even though the seat would be "warm" after she's used it, me and my friends are confident the other seats are cleaner.

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I'm an education major and a couple of years older than the typical college student. I'm currently student teaching at the middle school level and the situation Underclassman wrote about concerning the girl who would sit on a urine-covered toilet in the open rather than wait for a doored stall is quite common.

While we have girls at my school who are very methodical about covering the seat with toilet paper--or at least doing a fast wipe of the seat before sitting down--there are a signficant number whose parents havent' talked to about properly using a public restroom.

My supervision duty (called "potty patrol" by my cooperating teacher) involves spending 45 minutes during 5th hour lunch in the bathroom. Occasionally, there is some smoking, I've heard of some fights in past semesters, but I'm constantly seeing girls rejecting a stall because there's urine on the seat only to have another girl come in and quickly sit in it. We also have girls that will use a toilet that three or four others have had a BM in and that hasn't been flushed. As many girls leave without washing their hands than do. Last week I had a student call to me to bring her some toilet paper since there was none in her stall--she was sitting on the bare seat eating an apple! I told her I didn't think that was the most appropriate or sanitary thing she could be doing. She replied that it was just "my opinion" and she was on break and could do as she pleased.

When I was about 7 or 8 my mom taught me how to put paper over public toilet seats, and if necessary, or to lift the seat with toilet paper and squat straddle. Once she caught me getting lazy at the circus and sitting directly on the seat. She grounded me for two days. I just don't see evidence that the students now are being taught proper hygiene by their parents. Therefore, there are lots more Mops out there.

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The problems of users sitting in someone else's urine on a school toilet seat is not just limited to females, as described in the postings by Education Major and Upperclassman. On an almost daily basis, a few years ago when I was in high school, I saw boys perform the same function as Mop. The basement boys bathroom to our high school consisted of two urinals and two open-stalled toilets. During a four minute passing period, three or even sometimes four dozen boys would crowd in for a fast relief! While waiting for a urinal, I would see several different boys wait for a guy to finish peeing in a toilet and then they would quickly move in, drop their drawers, and sit on one warm but very moist toilet seat. They would then pull up their pants, grab their bookbag and make a run for their class. Few of them would take enough time to go to the sink and wash their hands. Therefore, the Mop situation is not just a female only problem. As for me, in my four years of high school I think I only had to take a shit three or four times at school. Each time I waited until I was on the second, third or fourth floors because the facilities were a lot larger up there and there were doors on the stalls. Sometimes, I guess, 'holding it' is better than what Mop did.

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I'm not college educated, but I find the postings by Education Major, Upperclassman, etc. to be troubling. The "Mops" are obviously not socially trained and they need to be. If it were my daughter--and she's a couple of years just shy of middle school and high school--but I would hope the student teacher would pull her aside and explain to her some of the alternatives she has. I can't imagine my daughter ever being in a situation without a stall door because until a few months ago she INSISTED that I take her into the restroom with me, and often, when I had to go, that I use the stall immediately next to hers. However, there's something wrong with our school system if we're not teaching or even reinforcing proper restroom etiquette! The student teacher missed a great "teaching" opportunity!

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"Airhead" you've got it wrong. What should or even can a school teach any child at any age about "restroom etiquette" when we was parents and a larger society can't agree! The Mops' parents may not care about the hygiene or lack thereof displayed by their daughters. If you use public restrooms as much as I do as a saleswoman who travels a lot, you'll see there's plenty of child as well as adult Mops out there! Are the schools going to "teach" seat covering--even if every stall had the protective liners I'm sure every child will dutifully put one down. Let's mandate washing hands, but how to you factor in studies that show that even in medical facilities and food service establishments, a significant number of employees don't vigorously wash, or even gingerly wash their hands. "Airhead", what you're proposing is easier said than done.

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I'm 14 and in the 8th grade at middle school. I live in the midwest and our bathrooms at school get cold most every day because the windows are opened to get rid of the smoke from the many girls who smoke.

I wait for a stall to open even when there are vant stalls because that way I'm sitting down on a truly "warm" toilet seat. It takes me five to six minutes each morning to take my shit which I usually do during lst hour art class. I dread sitting down on a cold seat. Therefore I wait for a stall to open and it's much more comfortable using a warmed up seat. My best friend also feels this way and she just sits down for a couple of minutes to pee. She said she regulates herself to shit before she leaves home. I'm not able to do that so I will continue to seek out the next best thing: the warm toilet seat!

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Not a fan of a toilet seat warmed by another's bum. I suppose I'm not keen on a freezing seat either, but I'd rather have the seat warmed in a less personal way. I think its best if the seat is warm because of the steam from a hot shower, though a moist toilet seat is a bit unsettling too.
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I agree with Warm Wendy. Something I learned back in my school years in the 1980s could be applied here: it is better to be the warmee than the warmer. Living in Minnesota, this was crucial! I, too, would ignore vacant stalls and wait for a vacancy that I could immediately fill. Often when me and my two girlfriends walked to school together, we would stop in the first bathroom at the freshman-wing exit, wait for someone to exit and then each of us would keep the seat warm for the next. It worked for us and the alternative was prety cold and definitely constipating!

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You will never hear a straight guy refer to another guy as his "boyfriend". When Warmee said she and her girlfriend warmed each other's seats, I have to admit it made me wonder if any guy would ever feel secure enough to do that for another guy...let alone talk about it later! Maybe we can add this to the list of things true friends do for each other. I suppose the ideal marriage also includes this: one person who likes cold toilet seats and is willing to warm it for the other, who likes them warm.
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And may I add a big welcome to 14 year old Warm Wendy, 4 posts up: Wendy, you seem a bit young for this site, but understand that you will be one of the standard bearers of a new generation who will carry poop discussions into the mid 21st century. Your contributions will always be welcome, and I hope you'll also listen to the sage words of your elders on this site. They have many legends to tell; they've fought the good fight, as have untold millions before them. Warm Wendy, spread the word among your peers: We no longer shit in isolation and we need not feel the world does not understand us!

I encourage you to register and log in with your posts. Just think, some day you might have 1,500 or more points! Okay, maybe you should concentrate on school, get good grades, participate in extracurricular stuff, go to a good college, have a nice career and marry a good guy. And then you can come on here and waste hours and hours of time telling us about those amazing shit episodes!
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Well as a firm believer in the HOME toilet advantage and since I live by myself, the luxury of having a warm toilet seat eludes me. I prefer a warm seat but I need to know who the warmee is. So welcome to Warm Wendy and I happen to agree with Bowl Clogger get good grades marry a good guy all that crap but of course a great poop story is always appreciated.

AHHHHHEMMMMMMMMMM JUST CLEARING MY THROAT!! ;)

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I agree with Warm Wendy and Warmee. School bathrooms can be cold. My school (I'm a college student) has the old-style radiators in the arts & sciences building where I have 12 of my 15 hours of classes. They don't heat up very well and because of legislative budget cuts, the campus wants to keep heat costs down as much as possible. That's tough when you're in North Dakota!

Although there are about 15 stalls on each floor, and a couple are usually vacant during each class break, like Wendy & Warmee I will wait for someone to vacate and I will gladly take their warm seat. Even then the warmest seats are available after about 10 a.m.; I often take my morning shit at about 7:30 a.m., just before my world civ class. Even though I wait for a just-used toilet, the seat is bareable, although not completely warm because it has only been used by one or two others. When I pee at mid-morning I find the seat is a lot warmer. I vaguely remember some formula or explanation of a "law" in AP physics a couple a years ago that would explain the reason for this, but I will choose a warm seat every time. My only turnoffs are if there's a bowl full of shit that's not flushed or a lot of pee on the seat. A few trickles don't worry me and I think a lot of times it's just water splashed up by the aggressive-sounding flushers. It's nice to know that our views are represented by the likes of Wendy and Warmee.

By the way, I experienced the coldest seat ever last January when me boyfriend and I stopped at a gas station. I had to pee bad and had been holding it for some time BUT I drained my kidneys in less than one minute. Even the toilet paper I wiped with was cold. I never looked in the bowl to see if my pee broke the ice.

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I don't mind a warm seat. If it were warmed by a stranger, there would be a bit of an "ick" factor, but I'd get over it.

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You people need to get a fucking life.

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Me and my friends spend a lot of time on a large sledding hill at a public park near our homes. Sometimes we might stay out for four or five hours, a couple hundred of us on the large hill. There's also mothers and fathers with little children and even some grandparents with their grandchildren.

The park has a large set of restrooms, but because they are entered directly from the outside, they are typically cold--especially the seats. Therefore, although there are five or six stalls available, my friends and I take turns using the same one. The first person waits until a user comes out and then takes a warm seat, which they later give to the next person in line, etc. Even though it might be faster to take one of the unoccupied stalls, the cold seat, cold flusher, cold door latch, etc. are turnoffs. I've seen lines four and five persons deep for an occupied stall and warm seat. Occasionally, if I have to pee so bad that I can't wait, I will use one of the open stalls but I will sit over just the very front of the seat and use my panties as a shield to keep my butt warm. Yesterday I found it amusing hearing a mother yell at and practically force her daughter to sit down on the stool in the stall next to me. The little girl who was about five was crying that the seat was cold. She was basically shoved down by her mother and told that if she continued to complain, she could go home and pee there but they wouldn't be coming back to the park. I feel sorry for children like that who are basically being bullied by their parents.

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I hate women who hover with a firey passion.

Ladies, it's the skin of your ass and thighs touching the seat. Ok, you don't want to sit in someone else's pee. Wipe the seat down, and then SIT DOWN. We don't have the aiming ability men are gifted with by biology, and all these women who are taught to hover by their mothers and teach their daughters the same are the ones who the rest of us are annoyed by because she peed all over the toilet we'd like to use.

I don't worry about it being warm, public or private. In public, it's one of the things that sometimes happens and I ignore. In private, well, given that my beloved and I both have Gut Issues, it is less important that the seat be warm or cold than that one is on it so that when my ass figures out if it's going to shit, fart, both, or just fake me out again it can do so with the minimum amount of cleanup necessary.

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While I tend to agree with Anonymous Woman, it's difficult getting use to the variety of public bathrooms and what's available. For example, I work part-time for a telemarketing firm with a couple hundred employees and in each of the three ladies bathrooms we have toilet seat protectors. Although they are probably not that important in that they are not going to spare me from getting leprosy, they are nice to have and I use them. However, I know some of my co-workers don't and they regularly sit right down on the seat.

At school where I'm working on my MBA, the bathrooms are much larger and more frequently used. There are no seat protectors offered and I regularly have to sit down twice a day to pee and will shit once every day or two. I sit directly on the seat and because there's a line for each stall, if I were to find a dirty toilet and then retreat to the back of the line, I'd never make it to class on time. Like most of the ladies, I sit down quickly and hope for the best. Once or twice I've been too quick and I've taken a full shit, only to find that there's no toilet paper left in the dispenser.

Last year my boyfriend and I were at an Interstate reststop and I was on the stool of a two stall, open stall restroom when a mother and a girl about 10 came in and prepared to use the adjacent stall. The girl was literally forced to get up and interrupt her flow, when her mom noticed that she was sitting on the bare seat. I was sitting down also, and the mom flashed me a dirty look as she was disciplining her daughter. The fact that I'm native American didn't seem to help the situation when the mom started lecturing the girl.

If I could always hold it until I got home, I would but otherwise I seem to be becoming more conscious of the differing views regarding public toilet hygiene. I'm open to suggestions.

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On 02.15.2007 Anonymous Woman (not verified) wrote: I hate women who hover with a firey passion.

Really? Most men I know would very much enjoy it if III were to hover with a fiery passion!

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Mya brings up a valid point. You're sitting in an open stall bathroom, pants down while you're doing you thing. While you're warming the seat for the next occupant, that person arrives. She's a child about five or six in there without parental supervision. She sits about a foot or two in front of you. She's constantly looking you over. You pull your pants up to cover more of your crotch area as you continue to push and hope to get the last and biggest of your logs out. She says she has to pee and she keeps her eyes fixed on you. She starts to move around more and put her hands down in her crotch area. She complains that she has to pee reallll bad and can't wait. You curtail your shit, wipe and maneuver sideways as she drops her jeans and underwear and throws herself onto the stool. The burst of urine comes almost instantaneously as you reach over to push the flusher. What should the protocol be and how should it be taught to young kids? This happened to me two months ago and I was never recognized by the child for sufficiently warming the seat for her. I've only used an open stall public toilet twice since that time but the cleanliness and creepy eyes on me are worrysome. Worse yet, I never got the recognition as the seat warmer!

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Wow. Second person POV. Don't see that, very often.

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I'm just a couple years out of college and travel a minimum of 10 days a month for my sales job. Twice in the past few weeks, I've come across "warm" toilet seat situations. I'm not a mother (yet) and I don't know how to correctly handle these situations. First, while on a stopover for my flight in Kansas City, I saw the end stall door open and made a run for it. I was so embarrassed when I walked in on a young boy about 5 with his pants down and having a bowel movement. I walked up and grabbed the door and closed it, but since it wasn't going to be latched, it swung open again. He made a face, pointed down to what he was doing and didn't seem to see anything wrong. His mother came out of another stall, called his name, got him off the stool, wiped him, but didn't flush before I went in. She was swearing to him about how much time he was taking and possibly missing their connection in Minneapolis. In the other situation, I was at a large cafeteria and I needed to pee badly since I had been holding it for an hour while I was stuck in slow freeway traffic. One of the two stalls was had an out of order sign on it so I waited, and waited for the lone available stall. Based on the jeans and athletic shoes I saw under the door I surmissed that it was a teenage girl. However, I must have waited close to 10 minutes of her and her cell phone conversations to friends. To one of her friends she was bragging about deceiving her parents by sneaking the phone calls in while they were out on "family night." I was contemplating about taking my chances in the mens room across the hall when I finally heard her stand up, wipe and pull up her jeans. She, too, left without flushing and brushed by me like I was in the way! Are cold seats, flushed bowls and on-task behaviors in public restrooms a thing of the past?

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I've got to be honest here, sitting on a warm seat kinda creeps me out and even when I'm absolutely desperate for a shit, I can't get over the fact someone's arse has been here just minutes previously. It's probably how people feel after I've sat there so it's swings and roundabouts really I suppose.

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I just don't understand what the issue is all about. HOW DID ANY OF US GET THRU SCHOOL WITHOUT USING THE WARM TOILET SEAT? There were limited times (such as passing periods) and lines waiting to pee or shit as fast as we could and still making it to our next class on time. What did it mean when the fourth person sat on a seat during the last two minutes or so of a passing period? A warm toilet seat! Although there were a couple exceptions I can remember, a warm toilet seat was a POSITIVE attribute because if the seat wasn't warmed up, you had to look twice (sometimes three times due to dim lighting) for urine or shit dropped by the hoverers. In many cases we got to know who they were because via the half high stall doors, we could see them standing. They were sooo fussy about not having their body touch the seat, that it practically made some of us sick. I figured a hoverer added at least a minute to a toilet stop and I remember some that you just would know would be too insensitive to lift the seat before spreading their legs, and if they shat, contributing big time to water that would splash up on the seat. So is there any wonder why I took a special liking for warm toilet seats? Even now, whether it's at the mall or a stadium, I continue to take a liking to the warm seats. I'm 33,have a professional job and have never been sick a day in my life. Warm seats work for me!

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I would NOT be able to pee or shit daily at my high school without using a warm seat. The reason is there's always (with the exception of 6 p.m. when detention room gets out)a line for the toilets. Last year as a freshman, I had an older girl compliment me for being the Fast Down/Fast Out Girl. I guess that means that I don't waste any time from the time the stall opens, to when I sit down, wipe, and quickly vacate the stall.
Yes, the seat is usually warm when I sit down. Sometimes I'm down on the stool within a minute of when the other girl vacated the stall. Occasionally there will be unflushed urine in the stool and I don't worry about flushing it before I sit down. I quickly sit down, pee and get up. Sometimes I don't think I'm on the stool for even a minute. However, I do flush if there's shit in the bowl before I sit down. I don't know why, but I just think that's gross! I know a few of the girls will take time to put toilet paper over the seat before sitting down, but I just think that's dumb. It takes time and it wastes toilet paper that could be put to better use by the next user. Occasionally, especially during the lunch hour, there might be some pee splashed on the seat. It would go right through the toilet paper if I was to put it down so I don't really worry about it.
What's most important to me is being able to pee and shit fast and without hassle. I'm just happy that we have the stall doors (although they are only half high) because there was an article in our student newspaper from a boy in my class who said shitting in an open stall two or three days a week has provided him with his worst memories of high school so far. I, too, think that would suck!

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Crystal and FastDown/FastOut Girl represent a line of thinking I just don't understand. It's been a couple of years since I had an emergency bad enough to justify sitting directly down on a public toilet seat. Otherwise I always put paper over the seat or I stand over it to pee. The one time when I was ready to explode and had to sit directly down I hated it and I showered immediately when I got home. I just don't think some children are being properly taught by their parents, or if they have been, they are rebelling and choose to ignore it. Sitting on a just-used public toilet many times over in a given day is repulsive to me. I just don't understand why FastDown/FastOut Girl and Crystal, among others, practically brag it up! Gross!!

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Anonymous Coward has no answer for the biggest questions: You're in a public bathroom or at school. All stalls are in use. When one comes open you should avoid it only because someone else has just warmed that seat? That's totally illogical, especially when you have only a five or six minute passing period at school AND you've been waiting to pee or poop! Trying to put toilet paper over the seat, is futile. I've given up on it. Deena' right: the seat warmers don't get the respect for what they do and that's VACATING the stalls ASAP for someone else to sit down?

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I think Crystal and FastDown/FastOut Girl are absolutely spot on in everything they say. I'm FastDown/FastOut Man, I've been using public toilets to shit for thirty years, never covering the seat (but wiping away where necessary) and I'm never ill or sick (as regular readers will know!!). Like our two correspondents, I prefer a warm seat, and I don't really care who has warmed it. There is something quite comforting and relaxing about a warm seat. I absolutely hate getting shivers up my spine from a freezing seat when I sit down. I remember following a lady into a cubicle on a train recently - she'd obviously had a dump, but the seat was absolutely stone cold!!! I was quite disappointed that she must have 'hovered'!!

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Hamster, Interesting tidbit there. I will discuss with you at length later.
Producing waste since 1967

Producing waste since 1967