12-yr-old uncontrollable pants pooping

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Nicole F asks:

I work at a children's home. We have a 12yr old who will not stop pooping in his pants, mainly because he is too lazy to get up and go to the restroom. He will go all day with this in his pants. Despite the many lectures of how dangerous this is to him and others he just doesn't get it. Do you have any info on the dangers of this I could relay to him. I have been looking online for answers but cannot seem to find any!! Thanks





Nicole,

Thanks for the question!

Perhaps, just PERHAPS, a 12 year old living in a childrens home has some psychological issues that are impacting his toilet habits. It is usually far beyond me to take an issue seriously, but a 12 year old is NOT "too lazy" to go to the bathroom and just poop in his/her pants just for the hell of it. A pre-adolescent who does this has SERIOUS problems.

Psychological evaluation is in order, as is a concurrent bowel retraining program.

UPDATE 4/3/06 by Dave the Editor: The clinical term for this disorder is "encopresis." You should be able to find a lot of help if you google that term.

Please be advised that I am only a Poonurse. I am NOT a medical doctor. Any advice I give should be taken moderate skepticism. Please consult a REAL medical doctor if you feel you have a serious medical condition.

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261 Comments on "12-yr-old uncontrollable pants pooping"

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I have had "accidents" as a child because I didn't want to take the time to go to the bathroom, but not often. What DID happen is I became chronically constipated until I was in my 30's. Then I realized that WATER and FIBER and exerciuse helps.

I think a teenager pooping his pants either has a physical or psychological problem and needs to go to a therapist. Every week for a year or until it stops, not to punish him, but to get to the bottom of it, so to speak.

I would make the child who shits while out stay INSIDE the house and have NO FRIENDS until he has had a bowel movement.

People need to make sure their kids are regular. Kids don't know any better and this can cause a sluggish colon and you can lose the muscular action, peristalsis or something, which pushes the poop out lke toothpaste from a tube. Your colon is like an upside down U hanging from the bottom of your diaphram. It should always be churning around and undulating. You can feel stool in the colon from the outside, like a doctor checking your belly, and you can push it gently, while lying in bed, up the right side, across under the diaphram, and down the left side. Don't massage your bowels too hard or they will start hurting, they bruise easily. Make sure you shit REGULARILY, some people shit every day, others every few days, but make sure it is consistant. If it is more that a week i would think somethings wrong. DEHYDRATION, FIBER, EXCERCISe.

ICE CREAM makes me constipated too.

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okay, I think that the assistance given above is pretty conclusive. but I would like to add my two cents... First off I should tell you that I am an Infantilist. I suffer from a rare known mental dissorder, basicly deep down inside I want to be an infant.. and Unlike the other Adult Babies that made comments previousely. I don't care for this condition and am seeking a fix. unfortianatly as M stated One doesn't seem to exist...

The reason why I'm telling this is because I have a unique perspective on the matter at hand. I belive that the 12 year old and other children definantly have either phisical or psycological problems. as such they need to see doctors. I would also refrain from things like the Ennemas and diapering suggested above. These would only lead to further psycological problems and prolly some form of infantilsim or Diaper Fetish... To tell the truth, I have been around enough Diaper Fetish people to tell you that the very people suggesting this course of action are prolly into diaper fetishism.. (You can tell by the way the speak btw)

anyway, My point is this is a touchy subject. The children in question prolly have suffered some form of Child Abuse and are acting out. If handled incorrectly they may be scared for life. and Trust me, that is a heavy burden to carry...

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I would like to say that i was 13 years old before i pooped in the toilet. Not that I was lazy, but was scared cause it hurt. So leave these kids alone and mined your own busness.

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Brad, I would like to smack your parents for not getting you some help and taking you to a doctor or free clinic. You could have had megacolon or some other problem.

And if someone posts a comment on the internet, it's up for dissection. Remember, we don't force people to post here.


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Went to school with a kid who shat himself for attention. Granted, he was about five years younger than this kid, but still old enough to know better. The kid could be:
1)lazy
2)a stupid jerkoff
3)a victim for sexual abuse
4)or experiencing a lack of sensation
that he has to go.
5)something more serious
What ever the issue, having him seen by a healthcare provider would at least eliminate some of the potential causes. Then whatever reamins is your likely cause.

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I can't help but wonder if this charming little essay on the 12-year-old pants shitter was penned by the same depraved individual who submitted this charming tidbit: http://www.poopreport.com/Ask/Content/midgley.html (see the third comment from the bottom - by 'Sue')

I frankly don't know what's more disturbing - a 12-year-old shitting himself of his own volition or a fortysomething mother massaging her 17-year-old to induce him to shit himself.
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There are some very disturbed individuals posting here to the original poster.You know who you are. Please get psychological and medical help from professionals.

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No offence and i don't want to offend anyone or make you feel less important but 600 people posting the same advice over and over is not encredibly productive. I would also like to mention that at age 10 i used to poop myself, but only when swimming, because the chemicals (we found out later), a chlorene substitute, weakened my bowels, and if i didn't rush out at the first moment, i would poop myself. I did not have a long attention span and usually ignored it to continue playing and would soon have to wash my swimsuit. We changed to chloreen and since then, no problems

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yes I have a 12 year old boy whom has bowel movements in his pants. what work for me is to let him go to the toilet set on the toilet for 5 mins and play his game boy or what he like to take in to play with I sit a timer for 5 mins and weather or not he had a bowel movement he gets a sticker. I told him after three weeks if he sit on the toilet like I ask he will get a new game for his game boy. he wears pullup so if he keep having clean pull for three week and go to the bathroom to use the toilet and not his pull up he can start wear big boys underwear.He has done a great!! job for 1 week I'm so poud of him.But if he starts pooping in him pants again back to pull ups and I will take is game boy away.But still give him a sticker and keep notes when he poops in his pants. My son poops in his pants or did at 5:00pm the most. hope this help I know what you all are feeling.,

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"quote"alex (not verified) -- 10.26.2005
If there is no medical problem for a 12 yr old pooping pants, I suggest a good tast and lesson with a strap after a bath to clean off the poop. There is No excuse for a 12 yr old or even a 6 yr old pooping pants."unquote"

WTF alex?!?! That is no way to treat someone who may have been sexually abused or has a medical problem.

I only have one bit of advice, Nicole F: don't take alex's advice and 'strap' the kid. That'll just make him angrier and less likely to do what you're asking.

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I HAVE A NINE YEAR OLD SON THAT HAS BEEN DOING THIS SINCE HE WAS POTTY TRAINED.WE HAVE TRYED EVERYTHING AND NOTHING WORKS.GOOD LUCK

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"I HAVE A NINE YEAR OLD SON THAT HAS BEEN DOING THIS SINCE HE WAS POTTY TRAINED..."

Isn't the above comment a contradiction in terms?

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Yeah i have had some serious problems pooping lately and have had recent cases of severe constipation. So i decided to use a spoon the other day to stretch my butthole to help me poop but ripped my asshole in the process and it wont heal....i was wondering if there was any women or gays that have had this happen to their ass and how they dealt with the discomfort

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My friends' 11 year old son poops his pants and sometimes hides them in his room, she has him seeing a psychologist but he is obviously a "quack". Is there anything else she can do to get him to stop shitting himself.

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I was looking information on how to get the smell out of my childs clothing when I founds this website. My 6-year-old has high functioning autism. It is partly behavior. My coordinators said to have her go on a laxitive to help her go every day instead of once a week. I have to say her bowel movement is huge and looks like it would tear her in two. We are seeing a behavior psychologist right now. I will keep you updated on what her primary doctor suggests.

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I have a 13 year old son who will be 14 in about another month, this child literally poops himself, it is nasty, and disgusting, he hides things and I cannot get the smell out of my home or his clothes, I am so very fed up by this, I have had him to many Dr. including a psychologist and a pediatric gastroenterologist who said everything was ok physically but it was a psychological problem well I am totally at the end of my rope, he only seems to do it here, not at his fathers house, we have done all the prescription medications and the enema thing as well as some tests which proved it was not a physical problem, any answers please email me. thank you

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Pooping problems can be a messy subject to say the least. Some are discipline problems which may need a firm hand to help cure. Good place to start is doctor scotts questions and answers. his public email is doctorscotts@yahoo.com or just type in your browser doctorscotts you will find it.

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All of you out there in poop land--HELLO? GET A GRIP!!--your child needs serious help---I use to live with a 12 year old who did this, had the medical evaluation (everything was just fine), but she confided in me she is "use to it"--find a good Psychologist!!

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its rediculus how people punish there kids for going in there pants. they might have a serious problem and the parents just dont care.

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Even though the spelling in the post above is awful, I posted it because the person has a point. I can't tell you how many times I've seen someone smack their kids on the butt or get upset about the child going in their pants at a barbecue. After thinking about it, I get mad at the adult. Many times that adult has been ignoring the kid or getting "their drink on".

I guess it all comes down to paying attention to your child.

Now, rediculus, go get a Speak and Spell. I mean it.


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This concerned me, and I looked on the internet, and found people with similar problems. One mother who had this problem with her 10-year-old son took him to a doctor, and he had diagnosed him with High-Functioning Autism. He would get busy doing something, and his mind wouldn't make the connection that he had to go, and he would sit in it, because without seeing it, in his mind, it wasn't there.

A similar instance. I have a half brother whom I haven't seen since I was 7. He was 9, and he would always poop in his pants. I don't know why he did it. He didn't seem to have any control over it. He would hide his soiled undies under his bed, so no one would find out. But since we slept in the same room, I was always the first to do so. He would become defensive, and sometimes violent over this issue. I wonder if it was more a psychological manner in that case. As far as I know, he no longer has this problem. I hope my comment was helpful.

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hey it's no big deal! I shit my pants till I was 12 years old and I turned out fine. sure I was sexually abused, grew up in poverty, had no friends or self respect but it all worked out. Well mayby not perfectly, seeing how I am constantly depressed, a highschool dropout, and pedo but as they say "shit happens"!

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My sister is 8 and still goes to the bathroom in her pants. Same with my 12-year-old girlfreind. They say they idolize Lindsay Lohan. I see a connection...
Anyways, maybe you should get therapy for you child and THEN try the bag enema (if therapy doesn't work)

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I have found the bag enema great for dealing with children that poop thir pants. It serves a dual purpose 1- cleans out the bowel to correct any encopresis 2- children do like enemas so if they are being just lazy it puts a quick stop to that as well. Never does any harm to clean the bowel, it is good for health.

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Hay you I just stumbled on your page! Interesting ,I have been doing foster care for years now, usually with children who have come from some very scary and unsafe lives, by the time they come to me they have lots of issues, drugs, abuse, often sexual and just beat up by the system. I often am an emergency place till a place can be found for them.

In the last 3 years I have had 4 children under the age of 13, one girl and 3 boys who had some form of issues of wetting or messing in their pants, 2 were sexually abused and the others who knows.

I believe it could be a combination of issues,on some level it is a control issue as they have nothing to control but their body functions (their lives are out of control and by others control it) One of my guys , was about 11, he was a smart, sweet, bright, highly energetic kid, very funny, was not used to any type of structure, also he was very grown up for his age, he looked more like 14.
When he came to stay with me he had been left alone by his mother who left with her boyfriend leaving him alone for weeks at time, his father was not a presents in his life...

About a week after he moved in,(I have a room all set up, bed , different toys, games, music, and crafts, things to make them feel welcome, when they first come to the house I explain house rules etc), I noticed that some of his clothes were missing from the hamper,mostly underwear and pants ,he came with little, so I went looking, sure enough I found his soiled underwear and pants hid in the bottom and back corner of closet, I will mention that it was neatly folded, and it seemed that he remained in the soiled clothes for sometime, as the underwear were full and compact, and folded as to save it, the jeans were then folded over the that, I found 3 pairs in total,
So that evening I decided to not say anything and kept my eye open, and watch his behavior, after supper and watching Tv, it was bed time. This nite I decided to check in on him about 20 min after lights out, one thing is I don't have locks on BR doors in my house because of safety issues, I peaked-in to find him in the dark squatting pooping his pants and masturbating, I was not surprised and quietly walked down the hall and then yelled to him that i was on my way up, I opened the door and turned on the light to find a very surprised , shameful, scared boy. I smiled told him it was safe, and OK that I knew about his accidents in his pants , he didn't know what to do, and so i suggested that we clean him up, I followed him to bathroom, and stood there talking and pretending like this was not a big deal, I usually give kids their space, and respect their nudity, but this time felt I needed to be there, I then helped and stuck him in the shower, I told him I was not mad, but I needed to understand what was happening, I then left him in the shower as I took the his soiled clothes to the laundry, and asked when he was done to get dressed and come down to the kitchen, We sat at the table I told him, about finding his clothes earlier that day, and he shared how he had been pooping in his pants on and off for a long time, his mother never found out, he said it felt safe and normal for him to do so, he also said he liked and often wet him self also ,,,
Then next day I put out some pull up (Good nites)disposable briefs on his dresser,along with a diaper pail in the bathroom, no words were really spoken, my role is not to save them but offer them a safe place, in the next 6 weeks I checked daily the pail and sure enough the briefs were being used, to the max, in matter a fact I believe he was wetting and messing them daily, I kept his case worker, and therapist informed of his behavior while he was here, he was placed in a distant family members home, I received a Christmas card from him that is all I know, but pooping ones pants is not so rare as one would think...

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Everyone should already know that whatever condition you are in psycologically effects what condition you are in physically. Beyond the fact that the kid may have encopresis or whatever, it's so so so so obvious that the kid needs to talk to someone, not just about his/her poops, but about his/her life and just general shit. Kids that grow up in homes have it hard enough, they don't need adults looking at them like freaks and shit (not saying you do, but just in general). The kid more than likely needs a friend, and even though that might not fix his/her butt, it might fix other things that will lead to the fixing of his butt.
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Stripper Poop (12) -- 04.05.2007
Everyone should already know that whatever condition you are in psycologically effects what condition you are in physically.

Truer words were never spoken! Good call, Stripper.

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My daughter is 12 and finishing her second year of middle school. She is an above average student, but beginning this school year, she has had three accidents at school where she has come home with poop in her pants.

The biggest issue, at least to me, is that she doesn't feel good about moving her bowels at school. The problems started in August. She was on the stool during her break after lunch, had a complete bowel movement, but when she went to pull out some toilet paper, there was none. Instead of flushing, pulling up her pants and jeans, and going into another stall for some, Brittney asked a girl in an adjacent stall for some and she was grossed out when the girl handed her some that she had just wiped with. She passed some gas, and well....
On another occasion Brittney was again on the stool--she said for about 10 minutes but it might have been longer--and other girls were peeking in on her, pounding on the door and making rude remarks (she's half black and they were saying that blacks are traditionally the "slowest shitters unless they have a warm toilet seat") so she vacated the stall and she had an accident a half hour later when her school bus got stuck in rush-hour interstate traffic. The third time--just last week--there was only one stall vacant out of more than a dozen, the door would not fully latch and there was urine on the seat but Brittney used it anyway. Before she could pull her jeans and pants down, she was already making a smelly and obvious mess in public. She spent about 30 minutes on the stool trying to clean herself up but others were looking in on her but taunting her with digs about diapers and pull-ups. This did little, of course, to help her confidence.
It's sad that a few girls can be so cruel to someone who is sensitive and lacks confidence. She has no problems pooping at other venues, just school. She pees at least once a day at school but there's no harassment because she can sit down, empty her bladder and vacate the stall within two minutes. Why the pooping has become so problemmatic I just don't understand.

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Soiling underwear (encopresis) is usually a sign of constipation. The person doesn't usually get the signals to go because the area in the bowels where it is compacted is stretched like a balloon and doesn't send message to brain. When that stool does pass, the backed up stool then fills the stretched out area, and no signal sent to brain to push it out... often the backed up part behind it will leak out into underwear. It takes about 6 months or more of taking mineral oil or stool softener, and eating lots of fiber, sitting on toilet 5-10 minutes after all meals, to get regular and to get the bowels back to their regular share. FYI- this is straight from the pediatrician.

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I had those desires when I was a child, but had very strong parents, so I learned how to hide what I was doing. Absent obvious medical problems, I believe any child with those desires who can get away with it will just do it. Only social stigma will encourage them to keep their thing to themselves eventually, when they reach a point where acceptance is more important than the satisfaction they get from the behavior.

Not too long ago I had a girlfriend with a 9 year old boy who occasionally pooped his pants, definitely on purpose, and she was at a loss as to what to do. When it happened at my house, I told him that if he has to do that, get a plastic bag, go into the bathroom, clean up and shower, and take the plastic bag outside and hide the evidence so that other people won't smell it. I told him if other people know about it and smell it, they will be disturbed; if he cleans up after himself and nobody else knows, then it won't be a problem.

What else can you tell a kid like that? If a kid is doing it because they want to, no professional is going to be able to make them stop wanting to do it. Seems to me, the best way to handle it is to educate them about the effect it has on others, and to keep it private if they must do it.

There isn't much literature on the subject, and very little understanding of it among professionals. Even a professional having the same affliction would be at a loss as to how to 'cure' it. Inflicting emotional damage on the child over it won't cure it, that's for sure. One thing we do know: most paraphilias like this one begin in childhood. Most of the afflicted people grow up and reach a balance with it, but it never stops affecting them. I'm getting long in the tooth now, and I've been watching for enlightenment on the subject for many years. I don't think there are any simple answers, other than 'teach the child to live with it so that it doesn't disturb others'.

There's your answer from another twisted sicko.

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my son has autism and myself and HUNDREDS of other parents discuss this same problem and other poop problems all the time. In my kid's case (he actually has super high functioning autism known as aspergers. He has less understanding about social stigma and has inability to fully comprehend "theory of mind" which means to see things from others point of view. It is NOT less care or deviousness, it is a disability called autism, that is the signature affect of social awkwardness from non ability to formulate theory of mind observation. Autistic kids (it is actually called the autistic spectrum because they range WIDELY as to their level of functioning)also have a VERY high percentage of them with leaky gut syndrome, and digestive tract abnormalities and compaction problems leaving constipation theories for this problem VERY formidable for some, also huge is Gluten and Casein intolerances which the children react to like HEROIN. they become addicted and it DOES reduce their ability to feel pain or in this case when they have to go. Some of them have constant serotonin output from this situation making them almost seem giddy and drunk which makes them susceptible to these problems. I wanted to post this because some (MANY) children go undiagnosed especially when they are in the "system" because it takes a very persistent parent who knows the child very well to get these kids who just look bad or rude, the help they need for a horrible isolating and serious developmental disorder. Adding to the problem of these high functioning kids not getting diagnosed is the very very very high amount of sexual and other emotional and physical abuses these kids og through before they are abandodned by their parents and often by caregivers who dont know what to do with them and just want to call these precious suffering children monkeys and other such horrifying suicidal inducing precurser abusive statements. I know, I know the parents who buried their children who have been shunned by all in their lives while they have no clue how to repair those relationships, they seem to be digging their own grave but it is the lack of support these weak in our society CANNOT survive without. I myself have cried and cried and cried because i will never have the kind of life I could have had if my child was socially integrateable. Pooping on yourself when you talk like a genius is not comprehendable to us, but it is not something to chide or tease or in many cases abuse these kids over. get them real help and if someone cant help get help somewhere else.

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My son also has Asperger's High Functioning Autism Disorder, and a daily problem with pooping in his pants. He is adopted out of the foster care system as well, so unfortantly prior to 2 1/2 years old I do not know his history. He is now 6 years old. My doctor has checked him out and assures me that he has no physical alliment. We are going to start counseling soon, but are also needing a psycological done. However, any suggestions on how to help him help himself would be much appriciated. When I ask him "Why" all he says is "I don't know". My husband and I are both very frustarted and worry about his future place in society, besides the pooping he has other social deviant issues as well, Thanks

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OK. Stop. Seems we are fast forgetting the past and going with the newest bestest ideas. Namely why does everything have to by psycological and needing a modern "cure" of either psychoanalysis or some medicine or a combo of both. Uncontrolled pooping of the pants can originate directly from constipation. ONce the impacting happens the rectum is stretched and finally something "gives" usually pooping, the "bad" behavior can originate in a childs not being developed enough to have a logical discussion surrounding what is going on. Often this is misinterpreted. The Anema is the best solution I have seen thus far. Does this often and look at the kids diet, make sure it is well blended.
FOlks just need to stop assuming they know it all. Folks just need to stop thinking thier problem is the first one ever. Folks need to understand that psycology is very new and very unproven as is Pills (all of which replace methods used for 1,000s of years). as an example, i used to get sinus infections all the time, I tried many drugs but got off them due to side effects. Then I came upon a story from my mom how my grandad used to irrigate his nose with saline. I then came across the netting pot. Now whenever I feel like I am getting the head cold, or just whenever sinuses are bad, I rinse with the netting pot. No more infections, no bad medicinces, just good old fashioned remedy. Medicinces should be for severe cases that used to kill us.

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hello. I have written to give a report on the progress of my child. My child is now seven and she is doing great. I went to the doctor and he wanted to start her on a laxative called miralax and it is working. In the beginning of the dosage she had to wear pullups for a while because her poor little rectum was so stretched that it could not sense when she had to go. After have loose bowl movements for a couple of weeks or so her rectum was able to heal and she having bowl movements every day and is wearing regular underwear during the day. The child is so used to holding the bowl movement so laxative will make the child go whether the child wants to or not. Then the child will get used to going on a regular basis. She is still on the laxative and it has been six months. We are under the direction of a doctor still. The first few weeks were hard because she was having a bowl movement at night when she went to bed. It was usually a half hour after she went to sleep so I would take my sleepy child and sit her on the toilet. The tub is right by the toilet so I would sit on the tub with a book, grab a pillow for my child and sit her little head on my knees. After about 20 minutes she would go. This only lasted a week or two until her bottom held because she was so used to holding her bowls during the day. Be sure to give your child the laxative every day. It can be sold over the counter now. I still get a prescription because it is cheaper. My Doctor also told me I could ask the pharmacist for the generic brand behind the counter.

The other problem people are having on this site is urinary incontinence. My child has had this in the past also. The doctor says the the bladder can get stretched because the child holds it too long. He said to put the child on a toilet schedule of every 4 hours. Whether your says he or she has to go or not have the child sit on the toilet for at least 5 minutes every for hours. If the child does not go at the time then have the child sit in an hour or two hours. This is just so the bladder can heal. My child is in pullups at night right now and it took me a while to figure out that her bladder was damaged again. I am having to tell her to go after she comes home from school and before we go anywhere. At night she always wakes up and gets into bed with us so I have her go before she can get into bed with us and the sitting on the toilet at night has really helped. I am still going to use the pullups for a while because washing sheets is such a hassle. If having your child go every 4 hours does not work the child might need a medicine to help or there could be other problems. The doctor may have to check the childs urine for infection or other problems. My sister teaches second graders and says she has a child that is on medicine for her urinary problems. Hope this information helps anyone who is in this unfortunate situation.

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I have a boy who is almost 7 years old. He does not always poop in his pants. When he is playing, he poops. When he is shopping, he poops. Sometimes, he even closes the door to his room and poops instead of just walking down the hall and pooping. When it is time for a shower, he always asks his dad to check him to see if he has a dirty bottom...which he usually does. When we ask him if he knows when he needs to poop, he says no. However, I say nay...he knows to close the door when he goes in his room....sorry kid...that doesn't fly. I am at my wits end. He is homeschooled and if he were in a public school, I can't even think about the teasing and such he would endure. When he was young, he did have some very hard and very large bms...
I don't know what to do...should I take him to the doctor...should I just ignore it and it will go away...should I punish...should I reward for good behavour...

Sometimes he will go poo in the toilet...several times in a row. If I mention it and pat him on the back for going...he begins to poop his pants again. We are not talking full poops in his pants...just stinky stripes. Help me.

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Look past the problem inorder to solve the issue. children with this problem are very intelligent.

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my little brother is 11 and since he was little he just went in his pants. im 17 and its really embarrassing. my whole family doesnt like it and keeps it a big secret, i dont know why they wont do something about it!!
they treat him like a baby and might get mad about it. but they still wipe his butt and get mad at me when i go off on him. they just look at him in a mean way and say "change" and my old grandmother wipes him. this happens every single day. i ask him about it a lot and he just says that he doesn't know and doesn't care. this is ridiculous. kids make fun of him and im so ashamed of him doing this!!!!!!!!!! helllpppp meeee please.

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I've read some of the postings on this site and I'd make three points.

Firstly, some of these kids need specialist help - not punishment.

Secondly, as one writer has said - schools do not help. The kids don't like going at school. They feel embarrassed and humiliated by comments (bullying) made. Any kid who has any kind of shitting problem is vulnerable.

Thirdly, to M, who I don't think got a reply to his question - if you and your girlfriend get off on it, and you do it in private - so what!! Couples do far worse things in the pursuit of sexual gratifcation than shitting themselves.

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Thank you "concerned mom"! I agree with
whoever it was that said people should not judge. Go somewhere else and stop abusing your children with enemas and punishment!

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I can empathize with "M" from a while earlier. I'm 26 and have been pooping in my pants since I was 12 or 13 years old. Like him, I lead a 100% normal life, I have friends, a great job, am close with my family, I did well in school, and I have girlfriends. There is just one part of me thats different, and thats the fact that I enjoy oppoint in my pants. I have complete control over it - I have had one or two accidents in my life that I can remember, but I have deliberately pooped in my pants hundreds of times. Just like "M", once I orgasm as a result of it, I feel slightly ashamed for a bit but the feeling of wanting to do it always comes back.

Because I've led a great life thus far, and have no concerns in general, I feel no need to seek help to try and stop it. I've tried before to stop to see if I can and I have stopped before, sometimes for a couple of months at a time. But while the urge (to poop myself) always returns, I'm ok with it. It isn't harmful to anyone. It isn't something I partake in everyday- I probably poop my pants fewer than once a week, and most of the time I do it within the privacy of my apartment (I do occasionally enjoy pooping my pants when out in public - maybe three or four times a year). I know for a fact, as evident on this site, that there are other people who do this and are 100% normal. I think as long as its a manageable thing its ok.

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I think you should put him in diapers if nothing is working and if your asking him why hes doing it and hes not ansering keep asking him till you get something out of him.

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The kid needs help. Get to a Pediatrician, a Pediatric Gastrointerologist and a Pediatric Psychiatrist.
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Is the kid's name Shi-thead?

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I pooped in my pants til I was a teenager. It REALLY hurt to go, and I always clogged the toilet, and I'm a girl so was really embarrassed about the whole manner. Anyway, now I'm in my 20's successful and normal. Give the kid a break and take him to a counselor or someone who will have a frank, unembarrassing talk with him and not blame him.

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AC - your advice is, of course, very sound - let us hope it is taken.

I assume that better diet was the solution to your problem?

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rediculus (not verified) -- 02.16.2007

its rediculus how people punish there kids for going in there pants. they might have a serious problem and the parents just don't care.

ok for one i do not aggree totally about what you said i have a step son we have taken him to doctors in as many fields as we can and they all say he is fine that it may be something he just has to go through there is no sexuall abuse no mental abuse. no physical problems he just wants to. i am around him all of the time and watch him like a hawk i do not drink around him. and have tried every thing possable i am about to put him in dipers becase the spanking does not work, talking with him doesen't, keeping his stuff away doesn't he has been to 6 diffrent Psychiatrist and they all say the same thing no problem just a thing he has to go through..this is from his mom not caring what he does over there so now i am stuck dealing with her mess becase she will not deal with it on her own, and doesn't care if it gets delt with all she cares about it that child support check but we cant take custody becase she does not physically abuse him. (how nice) sometimes i think in todays world the doctors and teachers and alot of the parents are the problem. alot of them think that to have a more productive chiled you have to let them get away with this that and the other then they think they are allowed to get away with it all it is not right as a parent to have to go through it and alot of the problems i see with him are things he picks up at his real moms house becase she thinks that becase of are other 2 children she has to give him more stuff to make him feel special "this is one of the other problems with her if she doesn't care she tries to much and you just can't do that" and point blank he is spoiled and that is what i see wrong with alot of other kids today. law says you can't punish you chiled in alot of ways.. i think alot of kids would turn up better because of a good swift kick in the but. the way i was raised i had a loving home strait A's in school except math that was a hard subject and my mom helped me with it . but if i did any thing that i knew was bad i knew i was to pay the piper. that was how it was i am not depressed becase of it i do not have issues of becomming a baby again and to be frank any one who is laying in a crib trying to feed there emotional needs again is part of this new age of not doing what you need to do with your kids to ensure they turn out right..
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IT is called tough LOVE you love your kids with all your heart and make sure that they know you do but when it comes down to the acting out and doing the things that are bad that is them saying i want to see how far i can upset you or how can i get mommy and daddy to talk more if i do something bad they will talk more.. and yes sometimes it is just the shear fact they don't get enof attention and then that is sad it is the mother and fathers place to be a part of there kids lives and if they aren't are they don't have the time then they should have never been parents.. we ehave moved 6 times in 1 year and i have always been home for my kids no matter how many money troubles we have i do not let it affect my ties with my kids. why should i let the economy affect my time with them they don't need to be bought happy meals, or passes into amusement parks to be happy just being with your family playing a game of monopoly yatsy or a movie night is just as good. and yes i do know some kids do have medical reasons and to those i am not aming this towards you.. but as far as add adhd why don't you look at the intake of candy and soda or any types of sweets even at school back in the day kids had wholesome meals and there were alot less cases of kids acting out like idiots.. sorry to have offended any one but this is what i see on a daliy basis from my baby sitting... as for that these are just personal opinion and should not be taken as medical advise but sometimes i feel like the doctors are as wrong as alot of other ppl they want your money and alot of times don't care what happens to your kids so take it as you see it complain about me if you want or read it and see what so many do not...

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I did this when I was 8-12, when I was ''Potty-Trained'' I never had this problem until I was 8 years old. It might of been that I stayed on the computer alot, or that I just ate unhealthily. Whatever you do... DON'T TAKE LAXITIVES.

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AC, I read all your comments, and you were just like me.

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Perhaps this child simply enjoys pooping his pants for the attention it gets him from adults. For some disturbed children, negative attention is better than no attention at all.

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What Brittney's Mom reported in her 4/5/07 posting is going on a lot. My son, also 12 and in his first year of junior high, is a victim of such harassment. He's just about ready to take the "safe" route and that is to give in and shit his pants rather than sit himself down for the humiliation that goes on in those school bathrooms.

First, most--if not all--the stalls on his floor are doorless. He's socially awkward and as a result seems to attract attention when he's on the shitter. He's also been known to start crying when too many boys are watching him, making fart noises and threatening to with an emergency open up and pee or shit on him.

Second, I've e-mailed and called his counselor who is a concerned young woman BUT she says there is little that can be done unless afaculty member comes in and actually sees it happen. Trevor's described the boys who are doing it, but they trade off turns, and he's not sure of their names.

Third, because he's been "marked" for ridicule by this group, it doesn't matter whether he's on the stool during a class, between classes or on his lunch break, at least one of the boys seems to just show up and want to show off.

Like Brittney's Mom, I want my son to build confidence in himself and the use of public bathrooms, not continually subject himself to taunts and other actions, that he says, sometimes imply that he's gay.

Sure he initially made some mistakes such as pulling his jeans and underwear all the way down to the floor and forgetting to check first for toilet paper, but he sure doesn't deserve the humiliation. If things don't get better for him, I'm taking him out of public school and enrolling him in a parochial academy.

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It's time to address the principal and the superintendent, and suggest the bully program at your school. Check the internet for programs implemented across the country that are based on education, contract-signing, and education about bullying and persecution.

If the school officials won't do anything, and you have to pull your son out of school, your son will be replaced by some of other poor kid. You'll have to decide if you can live with that. Even if your child ends up in a better place, sometime in the future you will wonder about who these kids are teasing next. Good luck. Remember, these bullies most likely won't be so proud of their actions once they are identified and have to explain to the parents that they've been enjoying hurting a kid in the bathroom.


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i pooped my pants unlit i was 13 it was kinda fun when i was walking or at a friends house because they always wondered wat the shit smell was. i think its normal, it was never the lazy part for me just begin a jerk

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OMG, a revelation just happened for me and my husband. First off though, let me tell you our situation and why I am viewing this page. I have a 4 yr old whom sometimes pees his pants, but mostly poops his pants. I had a hard time potty training him because of my sleeping disorder, so he didn't get trained until 3 yrs old. I had a baby a few months later and after a month my first born was back in diapers. Understandable, he was jealous, and is still extremely jealous. Anyhow, we have almost got him trained again, but he still manages to poop in his pants several times a week. He does go in the toilet too about as much as he does in his pants. I think it's just a matter of him not wanting to stop watching his toons or playing with his toys to go poo. He knows when he does it. He can feel it. Sometimes he actually goes and hides in another room to do it. So I guess it's not always about not wanting to leave playing/watching. WELL, back to the REVELATION: I as an adult when I go poo, sometimes I like to play a game or read while going. It gets boring on the can right! Well, we have decided to tell Brandon, that we know why he poos in his pants it's because he doesn't have a game to play with on the potty. Now he gets to play with his toys or whatever in the bathroom. I bet if those 12 yr olds had a gameboy to use ONLY while on the toilet, they would have a positive incentive to put that shit where it belongs. Who's with me? Or who has tried this already and with what results?

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What you're doing for your kid is great. We used a jar full of M and M's. When Thing One or Two went to the potty, they got a few candies. And since Dad read books, Thing One knew to take books to the potty anyway. We didn't have to tell him.

However, this 12 year old most likely had some real mental issues to be crapping himself at that age. I doubt a gameboy would be the cure to what was ailing him. Not that I don't like your style......encouraging a kid to poop in the potty is not only hard sometimes, but it's frustrating. You are doing a good job.


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I agree with Dave, the editor. Having dealt with this issue within the family, I can that it's likely this boy probably has encopresis; a bowel and emotional disorder. Sometimes, encopresis is linked to a developmental disorder-on the autism spectrum disorder or otherwise. Having the boy evaluated by a professional is the only way to know for sure, so check it out.

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I speak from personal experience, I pooped my pants until the age of 15. I dare tell no one in real life because they would never understand. The doctors said I had psychological problems and it was because of my father leaving at a young age that I was persisting in this habit. But it was not so at all, I knew this to be true and the doctors forced mental problems on me. Insisting I had them when in actuality I did not. A psycho evaluation is not in order here. He very likely has the same problem that I had. It is called Chronic Constipation. I had a blockage in my intestines for so long, and I would retain fecal matter because it felt painful to poop. When a person has a blockage of this sort of problem you get "leakage" and it seeps out around the mass and into your pants. You don't know you have pooped your pants until its to late and you smell like crap. I began retaining this poop as long as I could and I ended up expanding my intestines according to the doctors "to the size of a 9 months pregnant womens intestines". Having to see so many psychiatrists my entire life at a young age actualy gave me many mental problems, I began to tune the entire world out. I began experiencing symptoms of deppression and was diagnosed as having ADHD and having a Bipolar disorder. I no longer experience any psychological problems from a massive psychedelic trip I had at the age of 17. I was able after such a horrible existence to defecate giant turds, some in the area of 18-22" long and of a huge diameter. Usualy resembling logs in the crapper. To cure his problem, he needs one heeping salad every day, one meal of just fruits, and one of proteins mainly at dinner along with a 4-5 colonic therapy program. My problem is no longer, and I am able to live a normal life for the last three years of my life. I am now 18, and I corrected this problem at 15 when I had the intelligence to do so and realize what was wrong when the doctors just proclaimed I needed a better psychiatrist all the time. Thank you, this is usualy the problem with child defecation problems, it is more common than many think.

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Thank you Dameon for sharing that. I'm glad that you're better now.


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My husband has a 14 yr old son that repeatedly poops his pants then denies he has done it. Says he had loose stool. Well the fecal matter is formed when found in his underwear. He NEVER wipes himself and we have had several stand out problems in the past. The first one being that he had peed in a bottle and then hid it under the bathroom sink. He denied doing that as well. The next is I had found a pair of womens underwear full of poop in his underwear drawer. The underwear was his mothers that he goes to visit with every other weekend. He denied that one with the help of his grandmother saying she had actually found them in the laundry when I had found them earlier in his drawer. And the last episode is when I found a pair of womens underwear under the bathroom sink and they were a pair of my underwear full of poop!! I can not tell you the sick feeling that I got in my stomach when I found them! My husband grounded him and took away his playstation 3 for 2 wks and told him he had to pay me back for ruining my underwear. My husband got upset when I tried to talk about why this has happened. He said his son told him that he did it because he was mad at me. This is just not acceptable to me. I still feel sick thinking about. Angry too. I think the boy needs to be seen by someone and I am not sure what to do because my husband does not want to talk about it. I can't take him to someone without his Dad finding out because his son would tell his father. The grandmother knows he poops his pants and yells and screams at him at times when she finds them and she makes him clean out his underwear. I heard them this morning and he told her to "SHUT UP". His father is very strict with him and will be mad when he finds out he told his grandmother to shut up. The boy is also a continual liar. He lies about everything and makes up stories as well. He goes to a christian private school and can spout out any Bible verse you want. He often talks about killing things. His grandfather passed away going on 2 yrs now ( which upset the boy very much) and the grandfather told me one time that the boy should not have any guns or knives because he may one day kill someone. Well that scared me. The boy is very obsessed with his mother that he goes to visits with. She is blind or stupid to his problems. She has her own issues and I think just doesn't care. I Love my husband VERY Much so leaving him IS NOT A SOLUTION. Any suggestions?

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Exorcism... your step son is a vessel for the devil.

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Stepmom, your husband is most likely a great deal of the problem. The son is showing a resentment of you and a desire to be back with his real mother, and your husband is being a total douche about it. His need to deny what's going on is only going to make the matters worse.

You are dealing with a young man who's going to get stronger and more angry as the years go by, and he's surrounded by people in denial who have stuffed him into one of the worst places a troubled child can be - a private school. The fact that's it's bible-based only makes it worse.

My advice is to tell the school counselor that the kid has shown tendencies towards animal abuse and that he needs to be evaluated. If he or she doesn't turn this over to CPS, it's up to you. The family is more concerned with appearances than helping this kid.

Sociopaths start with animals, too, by the way.

Listen, I sense you feel trapped, and I hope you get over this, because you're the only person who can help this kid. It's not fair, and it's not right, but it is what it is. Get CPS involved, and expect your husband to resent you. But you have to ask yourself the hard question - are you going to follow suit and pretend nothing's going on and/or ignore the issue? Can you be bullied and live with yourself?

Please consider these questions, and then remember one last thing. These people are sending a kid to a christian school. Jesus is the base of their teachings, his love, kindness, and compassion. Not a single person in your husband's family is reacting in the way Jesus would. This alone should give you the courage to get this kid help. You are right in being concerned, but this is beyond your ability to help. Get people involved.

My sincere prayers are with you.


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I'm pretty sure Jesus cheated at cards

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My stepson is almost 13yrs old, he is still pooping his pants, I am almost leaving my husband over this, because he continues to make excuses for him, I am concerned that there is something seriously wrong with him, when I tried to talk to my stepson about it, he said that he cannot feel it? He is a computer/video game geek and his father allows him to sit on the comp or video game all day if he wants. I suspect that this has something to do with as it happens most when he is on the comp or video game. The shit this kid produces dark and hard shit and I am sick of being the one finding these pieces of shit all over the house please help!!

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Try inserting one of those reusable wine stoppers. The type that expand when a lever is depressed, (one size fits all, so to speak). As for the peeing, I found a jumbo sized bulldog clip very effective.

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yes my husband poops his pants daliy he has to ware adult diapers for bladder probs at night but now he has started to mess in his pants all the time he also has altisam an ADHD any at vice thanks ps. husband is 30yrold

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My son is 7 and potty trained and he was always going to the bathroom then all of a sudden he started pooping his pants. He was perfectly fine and he never pees his pants only poops.I wanna know why but he just says "I didn't mean to it just came out", then he leaves it in there all day till we tell him to take a shower or get his pajamas on. Help me????????

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I don't know why my comment in here was deleted. It was not meant to be offensive. It was meant to discuss how deep-seated some of these problems can get.

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you have absolutely too much time on your hands........

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i am 17 and i shit my paints all the time like twice a day and definantly at partys when i realy get fucked up and when im having sex can any one help me give me some info my name is trent corbet my mom is jonny palmer my mom is lara palmer and i love hores and ugly bitches does anyone know my mom

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Your mom has two names, one is male, you shit in paint twice a day and your a 17 yr old ugly bitch fucker....sounds to me like you got the world by a string, buddy, you don't need any help.
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I'm 23 now, but when I was 8, I refused to poop on the toilet. I held it for over a week, which looking back is incredible! One night at my babysitter's friend's apartment, I lost the fight and ended up pooping myself. It was awful. I felt really bad. I lost my yellow snowsuit because of it, since my mom thought it was too small and I had an accident because I couldn't get out of it. Ever since, I would find ways to make using the toilet more interesting. But, now I'm a babyfur. Heh. I rarely poop in a diaper, though. But when I can, it feels good. Don't knock it til ya try it. I'm probably going to get "lame comment" due to that last part, but I'm really just trying to explain a similar instance. If you wanna dis me, go ahead. I don't give a poop!