12-yr-old uncontrollable pants pooping

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Nicole F asks:

I work at a children's home. We have a 12yr old who will not stop pooping in his pants, mainly because he is too lazy to get up and go to the restroom. He will go all day with this in his pants. Despite the many lectures of how dangerous this is to him and others he just doesn't get it. Do you have any info on the dangers of this I could relay to him. I have been looking online for answers but cannot seem to find any!! Thanks





Nicole,

Thanks for the question!

Perhaps, just PERHAPS, a 12 year old living in a childrens home has some psychological issues that are impacting his toilet habits. It is usually far beyond me to take an issue seriously, but a 12 year old is NOT "too lazy" to go to the bathroom and just poop in his/her pants just for the hell of it. A pre-adolescent who does this has SERIOUS problems.

Psychological evaluation is in order, as is a concurrent bowel retraining program.

UPDATE 4/3/06 by Dave the Editor: The clinical term for this disorder is "encopresis." You should be able to find a lot of help if you google that term.

Please be advised that I am only a Poonurse. I am NOT a medical doctor. Any advice I give should be taken moderate skepticism. Please consult a REAL medical doctor if you feel you have a serious medical condition.

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Poonurse is an RN with 25 years experience in labor and delivery. Her qualifications include seeing a lot of poop, and owning a computer. Also, she works in Michigan, which she calls the asshole of the universe, so that's another bit of credibility.

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261 Comments on "12-yr-old uncontrollable pants pooping"

Renee's picture

Hi everyone,

I am hoping someone in here can help me with a problem I am having with my 19 year old nephew. He has been pooping in his pants ever since the 2nd grade and it has gotten worse since he has gotten older. His mother has taken him to the Dr and the only thing they do to him is give him medicine. He was living with his mother and his older brother up till about 2 months ago when his mother left the house to go live with her boyfriend. Now he is living with his brother. He called me the other day and said he had no clean clothes and could not stop going to the bathroom. I have brought him medicion to try to help him but this doesn't help. He has no job because of his fear of going in public. I am trying my best to help him out but I also have 4 kids of my own and he lives about 30 miles from me. I tried calling his mother to let her know what is going on with him but it's like she is in her own little world. He has no insurance to help him see a Dr either. Does anyone have any advice? His mom thinks because he is 19 that he can take care of himself but I try telling her that I think that this is more mental and that I honestly don't think he can take care of himself. My thanks to everyone.

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Yes, everything after 4/19 is bold.

Renee, please go back and read the whole thread; there are a number of good references, there.

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Let me try something... everything after THIS point should stop being bold.

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Nope. I thought we were missing a </b&rt; tag somewhere, but I was wrong.

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TSV, I thought we had moderated this thread one time, but all the moderations are gone.

And, yeah--Dave, what's with the bold?

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Anonymous Coward's picture

I just married a man with a 10-year-old who shits his pants daily. Sometimes more than once. I make him clean his underwear himself since it makes me sick. I don't know what else to try. His father said that his mother (who is deceased) spoiled him but I am wondering if there is more to it. An aunt told me they never potty trained the kid and now I am worried about the four-year-old. Seems I am the one training him now.

Anonymous Coward's picture

I am now 33 years old and pooped in my pants til I was about 13 years old. I can tell you I did not do it because I wanted to. I really could not help it. It just happened I do not know why. I think it was because I was scared of the potty and thought it would hurt. Before I was in kindergarden I went through the enema thing. It just scard me more. I now know enemas are needed to clean out your insides, but to a young boy it is hell. I remember crying and kicking and thought it was the end of the world. After enema treatments I remember being more scard of the potty. As I got older the enemas stopped, and I kept pooping in my pants. One day when I was about 13 I like many boys started eating more food and would fill up good. One day I had a pain in my side and sat on the potty and bang it all came out in the potty and from that day on I pooped in the potty. What I went through as a kid has had an effect on me even to this day. As a kid I could never do what other normal kids could do. I could not run and play on the playground because what was in my pants. I even had extra help in P.E. because the teachers thought I had motor problems. I had no problems with that I just had poop between my legs and could not run fast. As a kid I wanted to stop this but could not. I was made to feel that others were better than me. I am happy to say I now have a B.S. is P.E. I am sorry to say that I have done nothing with my degree. I still work at a low skill job and have not even tried to move up. I still feel like others are better than me and why should I try when they can do much better than me. I think this way because I was made to feel like I was strange as a kid. Parents please help kids with this problem and do not make your kid feel strange and show them they can be normal. You need to make them feel good about themselves. If you want to talk e-mail me edg92@aol.com

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I'm currently 19 years old and have been pooping in my pants ever since I can remember. Since the age of like 13, or since my first orgasm, it became a sexual thing, and now i can't help doing it. Even when I don't want to. I've wanted to stop so many times, but all my attempts have failed. No matter how much I tell my self not to do it in my pants, once I get the urge to go, I just go (in the privacy of my own home of course). No one has ever known that I do this (except for two of my girlfriends, my previous one, and my current one), not even my parents. The thing is, after i orgrasm as a result of doing this, then I feel ashamed and disgusted with the whole thing for about 15-30 minutes after, until I revert back to my normal mentality about it.

I don't know what to do. Often I feel ashamed about it because my personality out in the real world REALLY doesn't match up with the fact that I come home and poop in my pants (or a diaper). Let's put it this way, NONE of my friend or people who know me would ever believe you if you told them that I was a pantspooper. I just don't come off like that. In the real world, I tend to be considered a pretty cool guy (i'm not just saying that to be arrogrant, I'm just saying it to give you an idea the type of person I am and that this condition doesn't discriminate against any type of person).

by the way, I live alone so it makes it really easy for me to do in privacy.

I see a therapist, I've seen her on and off since 9th grade, but I don't think I could ever tell her. I've thought about it, but I just can't. I've even thought about seeing another therapist, but I don't have the money too, and I couldn't ask my parents to see another one.

I have no serious mental defects. I do have the occasional depression though. I take no medication, I don't do drugs, I'm pretty normal by all means. I go to school, I get good grades, I'm a musician, I have friends, a girlfriend. As far as family problems go, I didn't know about them until I got older. Maybe I sensed them though when I was young (i dunno).

Basically, I've been doing this for along time (as long as I can remember), I've wanted to stop, and I still do, but I can't. It turns me on, weather I'm doing it alone or thinking of my girlfriend doing it (that turns me on the most). What should I do? (please no bullshit responses, I'm REALLY serious) Please don't make fun of me either.

Anonymous Coward's picture

Older children do not usually poop their pants on purpose. Here is a good place to find answers. Public question and answers e-mail. doctorscotts@yahoo.com
Sure u will have luck there .

Anonymous Coward's picture

I was a single mom with boys 12 and 10 yrs of age . My oldest was pooping his pants most days and even peeing them. The youngest mostly peeing accidents.
My new hubby who is a great dad to them, took them after a shower to the basement and gave them both real good spankings. This he did twice to the youngest and 3 times to the oldest. We havn't had a accident in over two months now.

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WTF! I was 12 years old last year and we most certainly do not poop our pants. Something is up with this kid.

Some are born crappy, some achieve crappiness, and some have crapiness thrusted upon them. (Do NOT be the last one)

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it's kida funny seeing everything in bold. but crapping your pants up to that age is weird and i dunno just don't understand it

yours in time,

Sharty Mcfly

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I'm 25 and still poop my pants sometimes. Not on purpose mind you. Rather, I had a stroke 18 months ago and don't necessarily have all bodily function controll back yet.

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Anonymous Coward's picture

i'm 15 and i like to poop and pee in my pants. usually i put on a pullup because my parents don't know and i don't want to explain why i do so much wash. i poop and pee in a pullup because it turns me on, and i like the feeling.

i don't have any problems or anything like that, i see a docter for regular checkups and there's nothing rong. i just like to poop in a pullup or diaper.

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Hey, sounds prefectly nermel to me. OK, time fir me to go play with my cats in the bubble bath.

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Anonymous Coward's picture

I have a five year old step son who just recently started pooping his pants. We took him to a doctor who checked him to make sure that he still had sensation down there, and he does. When we ask him why he says, "I can't feel it." Which is a complet lie proven by the doctor. I'll watch him when his dad questions him and he'll have this smerk on his face. I believe in my heart that he doesn't care and likes to see his dad get worked up about it. We've tried ignoring it and cleaning it up, basically to spare his feelings and we've also tried taking privilages away from him. PLEASE, nothing works if anyone has ideas or is in a similar situation let me now.

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Dave, would it be POSSIBLE to fix this thread???

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Or did I just do it?

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Exconstipate's picture

I have had "accidents" as a child because I didn't want to take the time to go to the bathroom, but not often. What DID happen is I became chronically constipated until I was in my 30's. Then I realized that WATER and FIBER and exerciuse helps.

I think a teenager pooping his pants either has a physical or psychological problem and needs to go to a therapist. Every week for a year or until it stops, not to punish him, but to get to the bottom of it, so to speak.

I would make the child who shits while out stay INSIDE the house and have NO FRIENDS until he has had a bowel movement.

People need to make sure their kids are regular. Kids don't know any better and this can cause a sluggish colon and you can lose the muscular action, peristalsis or something, which pushes the poop out lke toothpaste from a tube. Your colon is like an upside down U hanging from the bottom of your diaphram. It should always be churning around and undulating. You can feel stool in the colon from the outside, like a doctor checking your belly, and you can push it gently, while lying in bed, up the right side, across under the diaphram, and down the left side. Don't massage your bowels too hard or they will start hurting, they bruise easily. Make sure you shit REGULARILY, some people shit every day, others every few days, but make sure it is consistant. If it is more that a week i would think somethings wrong. DEHYDRATION, FIBER, EXCERCISe.

ICE CREAM makes me constipated too.

Teddy B's picture

okay, I think that the assistance given above is pretty conclusive. but I would like to add my two cents... First off I should tell you that I am an Infantilist. I suffer from a rare known mental dissorder, basicly deep down inside I want to be an infant.. and Unlike the other Adult Babies that made comments previousely. I don't care for this condition and am seeking a fix. unfortianatly as M stated One doesn't seem to exist...

The reason why I'm telling this is because I have a unique perspective on the matter at hand. I belive that the 12 year old and other children definantly have either phisical or psycological problems. as such they need to see doctors. I would also refrain from things like the Ennemas and diapering suggested above. These would only lead to further psycological problems and prolly some form of infantilsim or Diaper Fetish... To tell the truth, I have been around enough Diaper Fetish people to tell you that the very people suggesting this course of action are prolly into diaper fetishism.. (You can tell by the way the speak btw)

anyway, My point is this is a touchy subject. The children in question prolly have suffered some form of Child Abuse and are acting out. If handled incorrectly they may be scared for life. and Trust me, that is a heavy burden to carry...

Bradhaspooped's picture

I would like to say that i was 13 years old before i pooped in the toilet. Not that I was lazy, but was scared cause it hurt. So leave these kids alone and mined your own busness.

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Brad, I would like to smack your parents for not getting you some help and taking you to a doctor or free clinic. You could have had megacolon or some other problem.

And if someone posts a comment on the internet, it's up for dissection. Remember, we don't force people to post here.


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Anonymous Coward's picture

Went to school with a kid who shat himself for attention. Granted, he was about five years younger than this kid, but still old enough to know better. The kid could be:
1)lazy
2)a stupid jerkoff
3)a victim for sexual abuse
4)or experiencing a lack of sensation
that he has to go.
5)something more serious
What ever the issue, having him seen by a healthcare provider would at least eliminate some of the potential causes. Then whatever reamins is your likely cause.

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I can't help but wonder if this charming little essay on the 12-year-old pants shitter was penned by the same depraved individual who submitted this charming tidbit: http://www.poopreport.com/Ask/Content/midgley.html (see the third comment from the bottom - by 'Sue')

I frankly don't know what's more disturbing - a 12-year-old shitting himself of his own volition or a fortysomething mother massaging her 17-year-old to induce him to shit himself.
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Anonymous Coward's picture

There are some very disturbed individuals posting here to the original poster.You know who you are. Please get psychological and medical help from professionals.

Anonymous Dude's picture

No offence and i don't want to offend anyone or make you feel less important but 600 people posting the same advice over and over is not encredibly productive. I would also like to mention that at age 10 i used to poop myself, but only when swimming, because the chemicals (we found out later), a chlorene substitute, weakened my bowels, and if i didn't rush out at the first moment, i would poop myself. I did not have a long attention span and usually ignored it to continue playing and would soon have to wash my swimsuit. We changed to chloreen and since then, no problems

Anonymous Coward's picture

yes I have a 12 year old boy whom has bowel movements in his pants. what work for me is to let him go to the toilet set on the toilet for 5 mins and play his game boy or what he like to take in to play with I sit a timer for 5 mins and weather or not he had a bowel movement he gets a sticker. I told him after three weeks if he sit on the toilet like I ask he will get a new game for his game boy. he wears pullup so if he keep having clean pull for three week and go to the bathroom to use the toilet and not his pull up he can start wear big boys underwear.He has done a great!! job for 1 week I'm so poud of him.But if he starts pooping in him pants again back to pull ups and I will take is game boy away.But still give him a sticker and keep notes when he poops in his pants. My son poops in his pants or did at 5:00pm the most. hope this help I know what you all are feeling.,

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"quote"alex (not verified) -- 10.26.2005
If there is no medical problem for a 12 yr old pooping pants, I suggest a good tast and lesson with a strap after a bath to clean off the poop. There is No excuse for a 12 yr old or even a 6 yr old pooping pants."unquote"

WTF alex?!?! That is no way to treat someone who may have been sexually abused or has a medical problem.

I only have one bit of advice, Nicole F: don't take alex's advice and 'strap' the kid. That'll just make him angrier and less likely to do what you're asking.

Anonymous mom's picture

I HAVE A NINE YEAR OLD SON THAT HAS BEEN DOING THIS SINCE HE WAS POTTY TRAINED.WE HAVE TRYED EVERYTHING AND NOTHING WORKS.GOOD LUCK

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"I HAVE A NINE YEAR OLD SON THAT HAS BEEN DOING THIS SINCE HE WAS POTTY TRAINED..."

Isn't the above comment a contradiction in terms?

Tim Gallo's picture

Yeah i have had some serious problems pooping lately and have had recent cases of severe constipation. So i decided to use a spoon the other day to stretch my butthole to help me poop but ripped my asshole in the process and it wont heal....i was wondering if there was any women or gays that have had this happen to their ass and how they dealt with the discomfort

Anonymous friend's picture

My friends' 11 year old son poops his pants and sometimes hides them in his room, she has him seeing a psychologist but he is obviously a "quack". Is there anything else she can do to get him to stop shitting himself.

slh's picture

I was looking information on how to get the smell out of my childs clothing when I founds this website. My 6-year-old has high functioning autism. It is partly behavior. My coordinators said to have her go on a laxitive to help her go every day instead of once a week. I have to say her bowel movement is huge and looks like it would tear her in two. We are seeing a behavior psychologist right now. I will keep you updated on what her primary doctor suggests.

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I have a 13 year old son who will be 14 in about another month, this child literally poops himself, it is nasty, and disgusting, he hides things and I cannot get the smell out of my home or his clothes, I am so very fed up by this, I have had him to many Dr. including a psychologist and a pediatric gastroenterologist who said everything was ok physically but it was a psychological problem well I am totally at the end of my rope, he only seems to do it here, not at his fathers house, we have done all the prescription medications and the enema thing as well as some tests which proved it was not a physical problem, any answers please email me. thank you

Connie's picture

Pooping problems can be a messy subject to say the least. Some are discipline problems which may need a firm hand to help cure. Good place to start is doctor scotts questions and answers. his public email is doctorscotts@yahoo.com or just type in your browser doctorscotts you will find it.

Anonymous -yea that&#039;s me's picture

All of you out there in poop land--HELLO? GET A GRIP!!--your child needs serious help---I use to live with a 12 year old who did this, had the medical evaluation (everything was just fine), but she confided in me she is "use to it"--find a good Psychologist!!

rediculus's picture

its rediculus how people punish there kids for going in there pants. they might have a serious problem and the parents just dont care.

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Even though the spelling in the post above is awful, I posted it because the person has a point. I can't tell you how many times I've seen someone smack their kids on the butt or get upset about the child going in their pants at a barbecue. After thinking about it, I get mad at the adult. Many times that adult has been ignoring the kid or getting "their drink on".

I guess it all comes down to paying attention to your child.

Now, rediculus, go get a Speak and Spell. I mean it.


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KnuxTheFox's picture

This concerned me, and I looked on the internet, and found people with similar problems. One mother who had this problem with her 10-year-old son took him to a doctor, and he had diagnosed him with High-Functioning Autism. He would get busy doing something, and his mind wouldn't make the connection that he had to go, and he would sit in it, because without seeing it, in his mind, it wasn't there.

A similar instance. I have a half brother whom I haven't seen since I was 7. He was 9, and he would always poop in his pants. I don't know why he did it. He didn't seem to have any control over it. He would hide his soiled undies under his bed, so no one would find out. But since we slept in the same room, I was always the first to do so. He would become defensive, and sometimes violent over this issue. I wonder if it was more a psychological manner in that case. As far as I know, he no longer has this problem. I hope my comment was helpful.

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hey it's no big deal! I shit my pants till I was 12 years old and I turned out fine. sure I was sexually abused, grew up in poverty, had no friends or self respect but it all worked out. Well mayby not perfectly, seeing how I am constantly depressed, a highschool dropout, and pedo but as they say "shit happens"!

&quot;Yin Yang&quot; Cage's picture

My sister is 8 and still goes to the bathroom in her pants. Same with my 12-year-old girlfreind. They say they idolize Lindsay Lohan. I see a connection...
Anyways, maybe you should get therapy for you child and THEN try the bag enema (if therapy doesn't work)

Anonymous Coward's picture

I have found the bag enema great for dealing with children that poop thir pants. It serves a dual purpose 1- cleans out the bowel to correct any encopresis 2- children do like enemas so if they are being just lazy it puts a quick stop to that as well. Never does any harm to clean the bowel, it is good for health.

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Hay you I just stumbled on your page! Interesting ,I have been doing foster care for years now, usually with children who have come from some very scary and unsafe lives, by the time they come to me they have lots of issues, drugs, abuse, often sexual and just beat up by the system. I often am an emergency place till a place can be found for them.

In the last 3 years I have had 4 children under the age of 13, one girl and 3 boys who had some form of issues of wetting or messing in their pants, 2 were sexually abused and the others who knows.

I believe it could be a combination of issues,on some level it is a control issue as they have nothing to control but their body functions (their lives are out of control and by others control it) One of my guys , was about 11, he was a smart, sweet, bright, highly energetic kid, very funny, was not used to any type of structure, also he was very grown up for his age, he looked more like 14.
When he came to stay with me he had been left alone by his mother who left with her boyfriend leaving him alone for weeks at time, his father was not a presents in his life...

About a week after he moved in,(I have a room all set up, bed , different toys, games, music, and crafts, things to make them feel welcome, when they first come to the house I explain house rules etc), I noticed that some of his clothes were missing from the hamper,mostly underwear and pants ,he came with little, so I went looking, sure enough I found his soiled underwear and pants hid in the bottom and back corner of closet, I will mention that it was neatly folded, and it seemed that he remained in the soiled clothes for sometime, as the underwear were full and compact, and folded as to save it, the jeans were then folded over the that, I found 3 pairs in total,
So that evening I decided to not say anything and kept my eye open, and watch his behavior, after supper and watching Tv, it was bed time. This nite I decided to check in on him about 20 min after lights out, one thing is I don't have locks on BR doors in my house because of safety issues, I peaked-in to find him in the dark squatting pooping his pants and masturbating, I was not surprised and quietly walked down the hall and then yelled to him that i was on my way up, I opened the door and turned on the light to find a very surprised , shameful, scared boy. I smiled told him it was safe, and OK that I knew about his accidents in his pants , he didn't know what to do, and so i suggested that we clean him up, I followed him to bathroom, and stood there talking and pretending like this was not a big deal, I usually give kids their space, and respect their nudity, but this time felt I needed to be there, I then helped and stuck him in the shower, I told him I was not mad, but I needed to understand what was happening, I then left him in the shower as I took the his soiled clothes to the laundry, and asked when he was done to get dressed and come down to the kitchen, We sat at the table I told him, about finding his clothes earlier that day, and he shared how he had been pooping in his pants on and off for a long time, his mother never found out, he said it felt safe and normal for him to do so, he also said he liked and often wet him self also ,,,
Then next day I put out some pull up (Good nites)disposable briefs on his dresser,along with a diaper pail in the bathroom, no words were really spoken, my role is not to save them but offer them a safe place, in the next 6 weeks I checked daily the pail and sure enough the briefs were being used, to the max, in matter a fact I believe he was wetting and messing them daily, I kept his case worker, and therapist informed of his behavior while he was here, he was placed in a distant family members home, I received a Christmas card from him that is all I know, but pooping ones pants is not so rare as one would think...

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Everyone should already know that whatever condition you are in psycologically effects what condition you are in physically. Beyond the fact that the kid may have encopresis or whatever, it's so so so so obvious that the kid needs to talk to someone, not just about his/her poops, but about his/her life and just general shit. Kids that grow up in homes have it hard enough, they don't need adults looking at them like freaks and shit (not saying you do, but just in general). The kid more than likely needs a friend, and even though that might not fix his/her butt, it might fix other things that will lead to the fixing of his butt.
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Stripper Poop (12) -- 04.05.2007
Everyone should already know that whatever condition you are in psycologically effects what condition you are in physically.

Truer words were never spoken! Good call, Stripper.

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Brittney&#039;s mom's picture

My daughter is 12 and finishing her second year of middle school. She is an above average student, but beginning this school year, she has had three accidents at school where she has come home with poop in her pants.

The biggest issue, at least to me, is that she doesn't feel good about moving her bowels at school. The problems started in August. She was on the stool during her break after lunch, had a complete bowel movement, but when she went to pull out some toilet paper, there was none. Instead of flushing, pulling up her pants and jeans, and going into another stall for some, Brittney asked a girl in an adjacent stall for some and she was grossed out when the girl handed her some that she had just wiped with. She passed some gas, and well....
On another occasion Brittney was again on the stool--she said for about 10 minutes but it might have been longer--and other girls were peeking in on her, pounding on the door and making rude remarks (she's half black and they were saying that blacks are traditionally the "slowest shitters unless they have a warm toilet seat") so she vacated the stall and she had an accident a half hour later when her school bus got stuck in rush-hour interstate traffic. The third time--just last week--there was only one stall vacant out of more than a dozen, the door would not fully latch and there was urine on the seat but Brittney used it anyway. Before she could pull her jeans and pants down, she was already making a smelly and obvious mess in public. She spent about 30 minutes on the stool trying to clean herself up but others were looking in on her but taunting her with digs about diapers and pull-ups. This did little, of course, to help her confidence.
It's sad that a few girls can be so cruel to someone who is sensitive and lacks confidence. She has no problems pooping at other venues, just school. She pees at least once a day at school but there's no harassment because she can sit down, empty her bladder and vacate the stall within two minutes. Why the pooping has become so problemmatic I just don't understand.

Anonymous Coward's picture

Soiling underwear (encopresis) is usually a sign of constipation. The person doesn't usually get the signals to go because the area in the bowels where it is compacted is stretched like a balloon and doesn't send message to brain. When that stool does pass, the backed up stool then fills the stretched out area, and no signal sent to brain to push it out... often the backed up part behind it will leak out into underwear. It takes about 6 months or more of taking mineral oil or stool softener, and eating lots of fiber, sitting on toilet 5-10 minutes after all meals, to get regular and to get the bowels back to their regular share. FYI- this is straight from the pediatrician.

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I had those desires when I was a child, but had very strong parents, so I learned how to hide what I was doing. Absent obvious medical problems, I believe any child with those desires who can get away with it will just do it. Only social stigma will encourage them to keep their thing to themselves eventually, when they reach a point where acceptance is more important than the satisfaction they get from the behavior.

Not too long ago I had a girlfriend with a 9 year old boy who occasionally pooped his pants, definitely on purpose, and she was at a loss as to what to do. When it happened at my house, I told him that if he has to do that, get a plastic bag, go into the bathroom, clean up and shower, and take the plastic bag outside and hide the evidence so that other people won't smell it. I told him if other people know about it and smell it, they will be disturbed; if he cleans up after himself and nobody else knows, then it won't be a problem.

What else can you tell a kid like that? If a kid is doing it because they want to, no professional is going to be able to make them stop wanting to do it. Seems to me, the best way to handle it is to educate them about the effect it has on others, and to keep it private if they must do it.

There isn't much literature on the subject, and very little understanding of it among professionals. Even a professional having the same affliction would be at a loss as to how to 'cure' it. Inflicting emotional damage on the child over it won't cure it, that's for sure. One thing we do know: most paraphilias like this one begin in childhood. Most of the afflicted people grow up and reach a balance with it, but it never stops affecting them. I'm getting long in the tooth now, and I've been watching for enlightenment on the subject for many years. I don't think there are any simple answers, other than 'teach the child to live with it so that it doesn't disturb others'.

There's your answer from another twisted sicko.

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