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Posted 07.08.2003 by doniker (1555)
Hey -- shouldn't we be seeing more turds?

Does anyone ever think that we just don't see enough poop? According to the 2000 census, there are 281 million people living in the United States. If everyone only drops one daily turd (which is a low estimate), that means that about 300,000,000 new turds enter our country every day. Now, of course, if you add animals, and the fact that some people drop multiple daily bombs, I can change the total to a modest five hundred million fresh logs daily. That's over 3.5 BILLION steaming new additions every week.

With all this fresh feces produced daily, don't you think we'd encounter more? Yet unless you're a lowly janitor, or you work in health care or childcare, or you're a scat freak, you probably only see your own shit, or maybe yours and your pet's loaf. Yes, I know that most human turds are flushed away, and we have a state-of-the-art plumbing and sewage infrastructure, but come on now, nothing's perfect. With that much volume...

But on the other hand, the United States is 3,618,770 square miles, including Alaska and Hawaii. Averaged out over all the unpopulated area in the country -- including places where people don't normally defecate -- that still breaks down to an amazing 138 new doodies per square mile per day. That's just the average, though -- I am not going to factor in population density or speculate on how much crapping goes on in major cities. I suspect, however, that your odds on encountering poop should increase dramatically.

It sure is great to be an American. I am sure that in poor or uncivilized parts of the world, people are stepping in shit everywhere they go. If I lived in the woods or in the jungle and had to drop a load, I would probably just do it, and walk away. Animals do it all the time. As long as I wasn't crapping in the area where I slept or hung out, why would I care?

Now this, of course, leads to the fact that there are probably no Shameful Shitters in the third world. Civilized man created Shameful Shitting. For example: women in Africa walk around shamelessly with their tits out, while women in "civilized" places usually cover up. Now you must admit that a set of native hooters in National Geographic just isn't sexy -- you know this is how they live, so the sexual aspect of breasts go out the window.

But when you see a cute blonde flash a bodacious set of tatas in your face, it's Boner City.

When something is normal and familiar, shame is erased. We have been raised that shit, like breasts, is supposed to be private. When it's done in public, other emotions get involved -- horniness, with breasts; and shame, with shit.

So maybe I answered my own question. Why aren't we seeing more turds? Bottom line: Shameful Shitting is the reason. If we weren't so shameful, we wouldn't have created such technology to hide over 3 billion turds a week.

-- Doniker

adude (not verified) -- 07.08.2003

I want to be secure in my own shitting and I am working on becoming shamless. However, I do not want the rest of our society to be so shamless as to shit on my sidewalk while taking an evening jog or something to that effect. I would have to say that ever country has its own problems.

I disagree with you on your comments on our system of breasts being covered up being superior to some African nations. Saying that is VERY ethenocentric. I kind of look at it as our society is constantly obsessed with sex. We use sexy women to sell cars, clothes, and even plumbing fixtures according to some calanders I have seen. The high divorce rate and interpersonal problems we have have in our scoiety between men and women, at least in my own opinion, is somewhat due to that "bonner" effect. The mystery of the opposite sex coupled with the "sex sex sex" message in our culture confuses people ane we don't know what we want. Now that is not to say people in cultures with exposed breasts live dream lives and there are no personal problems.

Anyway, I think being a shameless shitter is more valuable in a scoiety that is shameful cause you can feel liberated and think about how fortunate you are compared to other people in the culture.

The Big Wiper (2292) -- 07.08.2003

Wow, doniker! This is such an interesting line of reasoning from you, since I was fairly certain you liked your privacy and didn't consider yourself a very shameless dude.

Here's where I come down on this one: I don't think we really want to be up to our ears in excrement--no doubt the figures you conjured up about the sheer volume of turds plopping out of all of us is pretty accurate--so we definitely need a dependable method of disposal. I think we can all agree on that one.

But what I detect creeping into your article is a hint of pride in a job well-done--i.e., producing good turds on a regular basis. One of the first posts I put up on the forums was entitled, "Ever Been Really Proud Of Your Turd?" And it's gotten well over 400 views to date with plenty of responses. And who hasn't done a really long, firm snake and wanted to show it off to someone? I think that goes back to performing well during potty training and remembering the props we got from our parents.

Anyhoo, doniker, good, pithy piece, my man! A lot to think about while we're on the pot grunting one out!

Tom Turdriffic (not verified) -- 07.08.2003

I just love this shit.

ThreePly (not verified) -- 07.08.2003

What insight! I never once thought about playing the numbers game in regards to shit as you have so eloquently done, Doniker. Not only did you pique our interests, but by providing population and land measurements, you really made me wonder, "Why don't we see more shit?"

Tydirium (516) -- 07.08.2003

Do we hide our shit because we're shameful? Or are we shameful because we hide our shit? Which do you think came first? Since sewage disposal was invented for health reasons, perhaps shamfulness comes from the system, not vice versa.

Lame comment!
crappercritic (not verified) -- 07.09.2003

george carlin has been talking about this for how long? get original doniker. your numerous chins are deadlier than rat poison. i wish your billowing and decayed tounge were long enough to them.

keep trying anyways. after all, you cannot possibly look anymore ridiculous than you do ordinarily....

Lame comment! -1 point
doniker (1555) -- 07.09.2003

that's funny crappercritic. Because if you were a true George Carlin fan then you would have realized that my nickname "doniker" was created by George Carlin. If you have ever heard his routine about the "500 dirty words you can't say on TV" you would know how I got my name. Doniker is one of the words. Look it up. I am sure you can find it on the Internet, or save up your pennies from giving head to old queens, you loser, and buy his CD. When he is listing the names for a penis he says, "Dick, dork, doniker, wang" and of course many more. I would find the link and post it for you but since you are a loser with no life with plenty of time on your hands you can look it up yourself, unless you are too busy endlessly pleasuring yourself because you can't find a boyfriend to suck your wang.

Alex (not verified) -- 07.09.2003

hey great insight Doniker. Hey how come u and crappercritic dont like each other?

Guru A (not verified) -- 07.09.2003

Humans are all created to like sex. Doniker is a carnie term for toilet. We should take all the turds, melt them down and use all the Iron to build some I beams or muscle car parts.

Slim Jim Junkie (not verified) -- 07.10.2003

I thought about it, but never in such depth. You guys rock.

Extreme Feces (not verified) -- 07.10.2003

Fecal matter is part of our lives. Lets not deny it.

Di Uhreea (410) -- 07.10.2003

Doniker MAY be a carnie term for toilet but if you look here you will see it's Carlin's term for male genetalia

the_brown_word (not verified) -- 07.10.2003

Thusly proving, opression causes perversion. In some folks (myself included)

shame with tits and horniness with shit. Or something more sophmoric than horniness, like childlike fascination...(reference to self yet again)

te_brown_word (not verified) -- 07.10.2003

and once again, doniker and crappercritic are comparing their poop cocks once again. Why not just stale mate? You guys...

Lame comment!
t b w (not verified) -- 07.10.2003

once again.

ONCE AGAIN!!!

Slim Jim Junkie (not verified) -- 07.10.2003

the_brown_word is right. I was sent to a Christian school from 5th to some of 8th grade and I am a pervert shit fetishist that reads Hentai Manga. What wonderful values I got from those morons. (Sarcasmotron goes off the scale after the word wonderful)

Pooperscooper (not verified) -- 07.10.2003

That 'pride of accomplishment' after a good dump is great. I dont know if parental potty training has much to do with it. Maybe we get high on self produced endorphins when we take really great poops, and the 'rush' makes us want to share it with the world?

Who knows? But its true.

Ive heard that in India, the morning dump is a communal affair in many villages, at least for guys. Travellers have been shocked to see groups of guys squatting side by side dropping dirt snakes in the morning.

When you grow up in a context like that, shameful shitting is pretty much impossible.

The Big Wiper (2292) -- 07.10.2003

Slim Jim Junkie: LOL at 'Sarcasmotron.' Good one. Glad to see you've kept your sense of humor. And, BTW, I've been meaning to invite you to register on PR for the forums and post over there. You contribute many good posts over here on the front page. I think you're a great poop reporter, and we'd like you to join us full-time. Peace and Plop!

Lame comment!
crappercritic (not verified) -- 07.10.2003

was that the real doniker posting way up there in response to my george carlin comment?? i truly hope it was an imposter..... an interesting nemisis is somewhat hard to come by.

if it is you, you certainly did put on a poor show. queens? wang? ....hopefully it was a faker.

Kung Poo (91) -- 07.11.2003

Doniker, I have a different theory. The reason we don't see more turds is regularity. Its not uncommon for people(especially old ones) to go a few days without shitting. My guess is that instead of 3.5 billion turds a week its more like 2.5 billion because some people only shit about 5 times a week. Plus what if your in a coma. Do people shit while their in a coma? I'm not sure, but if anyone knows please post or e-mail me the info. Anyways, I think that because of peoples regularity we see less shit. I do agree with you though when it comes to the breast issue. I think the proof to what you said is in nudist colonies. There are tons of naked women in nudist colonies, and while I've never been to one I'm pretty sure that the guys don't walk around with boners all day. Why do you ask? because their used to seeing them.

Anyways, great story I really enjoyed it.

Slim Jim Junkie (not verified) -- 07.11.2003

The Big Wiper, I will join soon and post my most annoying diarhea stories ever. Thanks for the respect, I used to be called "Dirty post whore" at other boards by other members.

the_brown_word (not verified) -- 07.11.2003

slim jim junkie - do you get said diarrhea from eating slim jims? and i'm all about the japanime shiznit, but even though you gots the demons raping girls with 47 cocks, theres never any poop. are the comics more fecal friendly?

the-b-w (not verified) -- 07.11.2003

and by the way, why dont you take the 2 seconds to sign up so I can harass you in private.

Slim Jim Junkie (not verified) -- 07.11.2003

try browsing http://www.sweetkiss.net/~jargon where they have this one girl who has drawings of her shitting more than an elephant herd.

phil (not verified) -- 07.12.2003

Perhaps the reason we don't "see" any of it is the fact that crap is organic and decomposes very rapidly. That thinking cap I got the other day sure is great!!

Poopshipdestroyer (31) -- 07.13.2003

Wow. Some great ideas in both this essay and subsequent thread! I’d like to throw in my own two cents, if I may.

Though I haven't read as much as I'd like to on the subject, the things I have read lead me to believe that shamefulness arose more or less in tandem with the development of technologies for making shit invisible. In other words, the shamefulness we associate with Victorian culture is neither cause nor effect of the sewer system; rather, it’s an effect on the cultural level of the same general historical shifts that necessitated the development of large-scale infrastructures for dealing with human waste.

My own personal theory here is that with the rise of capitalism in the 16th and 17th centuries, surplus became disconnected from natural cycles, allowing for a historically unprecedented intensification of the scope of human activity: the mass production and consumption of resources, the mass concentration of human bodies in urban spaces, the centralization of political power in the form of the state, and the mass creation of waste. In de-linking the creation of surplus from natural cycles, then, capital (which I’m basically defining here as an imperishable and hence infinitely accumulative form of value) created both the reality and concept of waste—something left over from economic processes that can, and should be, gotten rid of.

But as many ecologists and environmentalists have pointed out, there is no conception of waste in nature—there is nothing useless “left over” from the economy of biological processes, since every byproduct is simply fodder for further processes. And as demonstrated by our current environmental crisis, there is, moreover, no “away” to put things for which we have no use. Furthermore, every good gardener knows that shit is far from valueless, and that if handled properly can be one of the best fertilizers available.

So I would submit that the cultural attitudes that cause us not to see shit are rooted in economics: we impose onto shit an illusory conception of waste enabled by an economic system fundamentally divorced from natural cycles, and hence predicated on the assumption of unbounded expansion. Because our culture cannot recognize that shit has value as the raw material for other biological and economic processes, shit thus becomes the lowest of the low, the most useless and disgusting and shameful thing, the thing our culture most disavows and disappears from sight. Yes, shit carries disease; and no, you can’t have the entire population of Los Angeles or Calcutta shitting on the sidewalk. That would be disaster for any urbanized society. But I also think the choice between our current systemic shamefulness and a fecal tsunami engulfing our cities is a false one, and prevents us from imagining more sustainable forms of economy, not to mention more sustainable relationships to our bodies.

jOOSH (not verified) -- 07.14.2003

THIS ARTICLE IS SO INTERESTING NICE NUMBERS! MAY THE SHITTERS RIEN WITH PRIDE!

munky (not verified) -- 11.03.2003

Wow... poopshipdestroyer is one helluva thinker. Nice post, man.

poofortoiletfoo (not verified) -- 12.16.2003

Never go into a bathroom in a mall during christmas time. I've smelled some pretty strong pallete but this was like horrible. Shameful shitters SHALL BURN!!! Umm, how bout suffer constipation.

anonymous coward (not verified) -- 12.21.2003

It's not so much a shame thing as a hygiene thing - back in the days when there WAS shit everywhere thousands of people were always dying from cholera etc - that's why we keep shit away from anywhere you might come across it.

The Shit Volcano (3818) -- 02.26.2004

Poopshipdestroyer, shit does have economic value and has been used as a fertilizer. However, shit from the 1800s and past was always "clean" in the sense that it had no toxins, other than occasional diseases like cholera or typhoid.

In shit of today you must add in all the nasty chemicals put into food nowadays. Plus the stuff people absorb into their bodies from their shampoo, toothpaste, deoderant, and other toiletries. (Things like the components of anti-freeze.) Then calculate in the drugs from this overmedicated society. We have a real environmental disaster on our hands as these things continue to seep into North American groundwater. It was even discussed right here on Poop Report!

Without sewer treatment plants it would probably be much worse.

P.S. I've always wondered if people shit while there in a coma too, kung poo.

HEATHER M. MCFARLAND (not verified) -- 01.18.2005

I THOUGHT IT WAS DISGUSTING BUT FUNNY.

The Shit Volcano (3818) -- 03.16.2006

Last time I commented there was no "Shameless Shitting" section. This article needs to be moved over there.

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Broccoli!

The Dumpster (2510) -- 03.16.2006

Has this thread been edited (i.e. some of the comments deleted)?

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"Say, has anybody seen my sweet Gypsy Rose Volcano?"

The Shit Volcano (3818) -- 03.16.2006

No, it hasn't been editted. For some reason a lot of the older stories got their comments mixed up when the new system was put up. For some reason the first comments on the string get shoved to the middle of the thread instead of where they belong.

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Broccoli!

The Dumpster (2510) -- 05.04.2006

Hey, Dave--I like the new sidebar link to this great story. Neat artwork. Looks like you have some others, too. What's up?

Double Flush (632) -- 05.04.2006

I think the reason we don't randomly find turds where we go is simply for sanitation--who wants to find poop all over town?

As far as the nudity goes, I feel like Americans are afraid of nudity (despite the fact that bikinis are getting increasingly(decreasingly?) smaller). If we would just show some skin once in a while, people would get used to it, stop becoming aroused, and there would be less sexual abuse as a result.

The Shit Volcano: As a guest before registering recently, I too noticed a lot of comments getting switched around.

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Practicing the ancient Chinese art of double flushing... because sometimes, a single flush just isn't enough.

The Dumpster (2510) -- 05.04.2006

Well, maybe in some places it is different, but I am not interested in sharing my girlfriend's magnificent rack with anybody else. I like knowing I'm the only one who gets to see her that way.

Where the scato-erologists go wrong is in concluding that because everything sexual is private, therefore everything private is sexual. My income tax return is private, but it sure ain't sexy!!

healthy 1 (1430) -- 10.09.2006

Once agian, I am siding in with TSV. Human exccrement does make a good fertilizer, but it would be very difficult, expensive, and dangerous to compost a big cities sewage production. The chemicals in food are the least of the problem. The majority of the population flushes old and unneeded medications down the toilet (I personally don't), restaurants dump grease into the system, auto repair shops and auto body shops dispose of some hazardous chemicals via the sewer, not to mention antifreeze, oil, gas, diesel, turpentine, and so many more chemicals find their way into storm drains. Plus many other businesses including textile mills make their contributions to the sewer.

We as a society have to make changes to our everyday habits. This will be a very long process.

Also, there is a certain amount of Victorianism still in our blood. We get embarrased if we see nudity, we get grossed out if we see poop or pee.

So the reason we will not be seeing more poop is, our culture and technology will ensure that we will not.
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