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Parents Without Hang-Ups

Posted 04.27.2007 by nurterer (10)
Editor's note: we've had a lot of stories recently about traumatic bathroom upbringings -- about how parents, or teachers, or nuns were so militant, backwards, or neurotic about the bathroom that the poor little kids under their tutelage suffered psychological damage. The following story is exactly the opposite. It was originally posted as a comment on one of those recent tales of trauma; you may want to reread the original post, to remind yourself of the anecdotes this story addresses.


From reading these postings, one could conclude there are very few nurturing parents out there. Francine seems to have recognized that her mother was a discipline dictator. The Tinkler's uncle appeared to have hang-ups, as did Full-Stool Stacie's church youth director; and, of course, Josiah's mom.

What is it about public restrooms that bring out the worst in adults who are supervising children? My brother and I are both hard-working, middle-class college students, and we feel we had wonderful parents who explained and helped us analyze things, rather than yell, swear, and dictate.

For example, Mom would ask me at about age five whether I wanted to go into a stall alone or have her with me. I got to make the choice, and that was encouraging to me. Once we were at a Sox game, and by choice, I went in alone. I knew I had to get over my fear of latching the door in such places, and I fully engaged the lever. I took a full poop on my own and when I went to wipe, I got scared because there was no toilet paper on the roll. When Mom checked up on me, I sat there and told her what happened and she went into another stall and got me a liberal amount of paper.

That night she related to me a story of how Grandma helped her out of the same situation twenty-some years before that, when they were at the circus and my mom was out of toilet paper. The lesson, she said, was to look for toilet paper when choosing the stall and to remind yourself to look by always tearing a couple of pieces off and wiping the front of the seat off before sitting down. This remains part of my routine, even when I'm visiting someone else's home.

My brother, who is two years older than me, appreciated not being dragged into the women's room like Travis and Josiah were. When he was alone with Mom and me, she would go out of her way to accommodate his restroom needs. She liked gas stations and convenience stores because he would have the whole restroom to himself without interference or harassment. Once, when Dad was out of town and we were paying a fee at city hall, we stood outside a men's room on the third floor -- Mom's rationale was there was less traffic in there -- and, when no one went in or came out after about five minutes, Mom allowed my brother to go in on his own. He was about seven and thought the wait was worth it to be able to go in unassisted by himself.

After he complained to us that the urinal he peed in was overflowing, Mom reviewed with him the other options he had, including using a stall -- something he admitted he had not stopped to think about. Although he got his tennis shoes a little wet, Mom complimented him on being independent. However, she said he should lift the seat first before peeing in a public toilet. This was all done without the putdowns of Uncle Jim or the unreasonable expectations of Cassidee's mom.

My brother and I are not honor students, nor are we perfect people. Rather, we were empowered by our parents instead of being put down and yelled at. One conclusion I've drawn -- and I'm a history major, rather than child psychology major -- is that parents tend to make using public restrooms stressful. And that kind of stress brings out the worst in all involved.

Editor's note: surely we can contrast the horror stories of late with some more tales of parents teaching bathroom habits in a nurturing way. Or are they really that few and far between?

Anonymousads Coward (not verified) -- 04.27.2007

Does the fact that I'm the first one to comment on this mean that there really are that few decent parents? I don't have any memories of potty training or potty acclimation one way or the other. So I guess that means my parents didn't warp me. Thanks, mom and dad!

Deja Poo (999) -- 04.27.2007

I think that most parents do a good of potty training. The fact that most people are potty trained seems to speak to that fact. I have heard plenty of people bemoaning that they are happy or educated or independent or whatever in spite of their parents' efforts but I can't think of too many people who would say that about their potty training. However, if such people are any place, you'll find them here.

This was a very nice feel-good story about a really great feeling. Nothing builds self-esteem like trust and success.

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DungDaddy (1460) -- 04.27.2007

Well, Nurt, I don't think your upbringing was all that special. It's what used to be called "Normal." The stories to which you compare are the ones with disfunctional aspects.

Roni (not verified) -- 04.27.2007

Me and my younger sister and brother were raised by a single-mom who was very open and accommodating. She took time to explain things and allowed us to experience circumstances rather than yelling and forcing us to do something. One example came when I was about six and I accidentally sat down in the stool at a convenience store. It was two oclock in the morning and we were traveling to my grandmother's house. I was asleep when we stopped for the gas and mom encouraged me to wake up and go in and try to pee. The previous user had lifted the seat and I simply was not alert enough to check it. It was so embarrassing to literally make a splash into the bowl. My mom was on the stool next to me when it happened and she came out immediately to help me. First, she calmed me down because I was crying from bruising my thighs and arm on the side of the bowl. Secondly, she was concerned because of someone else's urine being in the bowl and me essentially depositing myself in it. A couple of miles later we stopped at a truck stop and she took me into a shower room that she rented so that I could more thoroughly get cleaned off. A similar thing happened to my sister a couple years later when we were at our state's fair. Cindy went into a stall, crapped--but because she had forgotten to flush first--the stool was clogged by the time she stood up, wiped and flushed. The bowl backed up to seat level and got her jeans and shoes quite drenched. Pieces of poop in a steady stream of water were floating out from under her even before she was able to wipe and pull up her panties and jeans. Mom was very cool, calm and collected. First, she extracated her from the stall and the deluge of water. Secondly, she helped her dry off and gain her composure back. Third, she used it as a teachable moment to show her how to get off the stool, pull up her jeans and then flush (with a clear exit strategy in sight). My brother, also had his potty training moments and mom, as usual, was sensitive to his needs. On one occasion, when he was about five or six, he talked mom into letting him go into a mall bathroom alone. He was able to pee into the urinal, but an automatic flusher spooked him to the point that he ended up peeing on himself as well as catching his organ with his zipper. He was in tears when he came running out to mom but she took him aside, calmed him down, and showed him how to tuck it in before abruptly raising the zipper. She helped him practice dropping his pants at home and going in the stool. He just turned 20 and I remember him joking a couple of years ago during a family vacation that it took him a little longer to go, because, even now, he doesn't like using urinals. Toilet stalls are much more comfortable for him. Although I'm married and my spouse is very supportive, I have to admire my mother and all she did for the three of us without losing her temper, putting us down or making us feel bad about ourselves. It's a feat I will try to emulate!

Grogan (98) -- 04.27.2007

I suppose growing up with a single mom I got out of this a-ok. My house you pooped the door open or closed, personal choice. If you had to go, then go. Public, family, friends, personal. Everybody poops and I pass this along to all children when they are (for whatever reason) left under my watch.

daphne (4406) -- 04.28.2007

I think there are many parents in this world who had kids because they thought they were supposed to and not because they'd considered what they were really doing. It would explain people who get tired quickly of their kids of who cannot take the time to actually parent them. With this is mind, it's nice to read a report about a patient mom.


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The Thunderous ... (741) -- 04.28.2007

Kudos parents, it is MY hope that I can only be HALF as good as an uncle to my niece and nephews. I will always do my best though to make sure they NEVER have hangups about using the bathroom. And of COURSE to be as LOUD and PROUD as their uncle. With the appropriate "excuse mes" of course;)
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Ethan (not verified) -- 04.28.2007

My dad, although he never went to college,--and in actuality dropped out of high school his last semester--knew quite a bit about psychology, and was as Nurturer said, able to keep my need to use public restrooms as a young boy as stress-free as possible.
Even when I screwed up he would at first act negatively (you did what?) but then quickly tone it down and show me how I could learn from the incident or experience.
Because we lived in suburban Chicago and he liked baseball, he took me to lots of Cubs games. When I was in about 1st grade I remember that he would caution me not to eat the concessions too fast, but of course, I didn't often listen. A sweat would come over me when I had to poop and he would graciously--well he still had a smile on his face and didn't cuss me out like my friend Derek's dad--take me down to the mens room. Although 25 or 30 stalls, a few of them open for business, seemed massive to me, he allowed me to choose, get myself up on the seat (I was smaller than many of my classmates so I had to stand on my toes and throw myself onto the seat), poop, and then wipe on my own. Occasionally, he would peak in on me if I was taking a long time, but he was always encouraging. "Take it slow Ethan and make sure you stay down long enough to go" was encouraging to me. At times, I had to reposition myself on the toilet two or three times in order to get the dump delivered. At first, my biggest hang-up was not wanting to latch the door. On several occasions while dad was waiting on the other side of the bathroom for me, men and occasionally young boys my age would barge in on me. Initially it scared me to latch the door because occasionally I had difficulty in opening the latch and once the door was bent that it creeked loudly when I tried to open it.
On another occasion when we were at the circus and I spent at least 15 minutes on the stool and with no success in breaking my constipation, dad sat down and showed me how to position my self for greater comfort and especially how to spread my legs. Within three minutes I was able to fill the bowl.
Occasionally, in adjacent stalls I would hear fathers yell and threaten their sons to hurry up and produce. I heard one father complain that his son was taking longer than a ******* girl. Another peed over the seat so bad that I could see urine heading for the drain between the two stalls.
Today I use public bathrooms with great regularity due to my job. Although the stools are sometimes dirty, I sit down for the least amount of time and produce the best possible dump. The credit for that achievement goes to my dad.

Senior Chick (not verified) -- 04.29.2007

My mom let me go into a stall on my own beginning at the age of 4. She would always be standing right outside the door, in case I needed something, but I had my privacy. It was reassuring sometimes with noises and when scary shadows would come across the stall in crowded restrooms but I could always count on seeing my mom's shoes from under the doorway.

One day we were at an Interstate rest stop and I started to get frustrated because I was so hot, knew I had to pee but I just couldn't get my pee flow going. She asked if she could come in and show me a "trick" grandma had taught her. She came in sat down, demonstrated it for me, and then had me reposition myself on the seat. Magic!

By the time I was about eight, I told mom she no longer needed to stand by the door, but she could go into a stall and save time by going when I was going. I became even more independent. I'm 17 now and remember making only a couple of mistakes as I matured in my use of public restrooms: each time I pooped and I had forgotten to look for toilet paper first. On both occasions, mom just smiled and handed me some from another stall. THANKS FOR SPARING ME THE LECTURE, MOM!

I use public bathrooms without any hang-ups or fears. While I wish the seats and stools were cleaner in some places and the hot water faucets would always work, public bathrooms to me are no different than the two we have at home. They allow me to eliminate what I would prefer not to carry around with me for the rest of the day.

Anonymous Coward (not verified) -- 04.30.2007

Senior Chick: the last line of your posting is right on target: either we carry the load around all day (which my mom says is very unhealthy)or we sit down and drop it! It seems so simple. I want to remember that line in the future when I have a son or daughter that needs reassurance about using a bathroom away from home. But, if we could just find a solution for the filthy seats....

Turdle Dove (85) -- 04.30.2007

Those page-long posts are too long for the front page. Save that for the forums.

My parents were more or less normal with pooping and peeing. They called poops "BMs." But one thing that always bothered me was how my mom would never completely close the bathroom door when she went to the bathroom in the middle of the night. So when I'd wake up at night to go pee, I'd open the door while Mom's sitting on the can! This happened all the time. Made me very uncomfortable, as I was raised in a very modest family.

Evangeline (not verified) -- 04.30.2007

Because my parents own a restaurant and things are often out of control there, I was largely raised by my grandma. Although she is more than 20 years older than many of my friends' parents, when I was growing up she was always able to bring a new perspective to the often-lengthy discussions we would have. I spent the entire summer between third and fourth grade with her and I remember a page she had torn out of a national magazine in 1948, the year she had graduated from high school. It listed "old wives tales" that were still apparently circulating at that time. A few examples I can recall:
*eat in the bathroom and the devil wil get you.
*you can get pregnant from sitting on a public toilet.
*if you touch your privates, you hand will turn black.
*if you sit on public toilet seats you'll get a disease.
*flush a public toilet with your foot, if you use your hand you may get a disease.
*you get sties in your eyes from peeing in the road.
*a boy was sitting too far back on a public toilet and it sucked him in and he drowned.

Although grandma is now in assisted living, she still shares stories and her "wisdom" with me. As I think back 25 years ago and the no-hang-ups toilet training she gave me, I find myself both lucky and amused. Last year when I was on college break and visited her, I told her I was pregnant with twins. She was surprised because I don't have a steady boyfriend. Then I told her I had sat on the toilet twice that day in our university library and, although I was expecting, chances are her great-grandchildren would be smart. She had remembered our discussion about that nearly 60-year-old article!

daphne (4406) -- 05.01.2007

If a post is on topic, I think it's OK to have it in the thread.
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Kelly (not verified) -- 05.01.2007

Whether it was pooping or peeing in a public place, I have never minded it. I always take the first available stall and then sit down and make the best of it. I've been told that I do one thing different than most of my friends. After I'm up and off the toilet, I do one thing different than most of my friends: I completely wipe the seat off and I immediately flush. By watching the flush cycle work, I can assure that no young child will have to sit on a wet seat or one that overseesa bowl of shit or pee. This is something I was taught by my mom more than 10 years ago.

Mother of Three (not verified) -- 05.02.2007

I loved reading Evangeline's recollections of her grandmother's article. I had a friend in grade school who had been taught and believed the fourth. Kathy would do everythng she could to hold it or change plans when we were away from home and she had to go to the bathroom. When riding our bikes, we would peddle to gas stations, park bathrooms and once we even stopped at a bowling center because I had to pee real bad. Kathy would simply hold it in or make an excuse to go back towards her house so she could use the bathroom there. As one would anticipate, she would endure a lot of pain holding it rather than sitting down like a normal person. She continued this until we got to high school, and because we had to be dropped off by my mom at 6:30 a.m. and we both had cheerleading after school, we would be on campus up to 12 hours a day. Within a month she gave in and started using the bathrooms like a normal person. However, she wasted a lot of paper by putting it on the seat and many of our other friends would complain about the time she took and the paper that was wasted. My three children--ages 5 to 8-- don't worry about sitting on the seat or getting diseases. My youngest son actually sees public restrooms as an adventure, of sorts. I guess it's a way for him to demonstrate his independence and "big boy" status.

Anchored Andrea (not verified) -- 05.02.2007

Evangeline's #7 was what my mom taught me when I was four or five. She was trying to break me of a habit I had gotten into by sitting farther back on the toilet, and either grabbing onto the toilet paper roll or bracing myself by putting my hands over the front of the seat to help keep my balance. At first getting sucked in worried me--especially when we used so many of those large black-seated old-style toilets that you would find in old public buildings like city hall or the civic arena. I remember a couple of times being really scared in these very large public bathrooms. To help quell my fears, mom would sit down first and then have me sit on the stool to the front of her. That enabled her to show me that she had just been kidding and sitting back like that wouldn't cause anyone to be sucked into the flushing toilet. She was also very calm and collected in using public bathrooms and that has caused me to avoid any of the anxieties that I know some women build up.

Future Mother of Many (not verified) -- 05.05.2007

Thanks, Evangeline, for the 1948 old-time listing. Item #2: "You can get pregnant from sitting on a public toilet." Would ANYBODY but a moron even back then have believed that? I'm 30, use a public bathroom at least twice a day in my travels, and I have a fertility problem. I'm sitting down as long as I can each time. How can that be? Am I choosing the wrong stall? Is my timing off? My parents raised me not to have hang-ups about using public toilets, but is there something I don't know? I'm frustrated because I could have used several tax deductions this past year. HEEELLLLPPP!

Moron MaryAnne (not verified) -- 05.31.2007

I wasn't around in 1948 (born 1967) but going to elementary school in the early 1970s I had a friend who was taught AND BELIEVED in #4. Her mother was very rigid with her and didn't give her any opportunity to question things.
We were ten and our riding our bikes. My mom had a headache and had been sick so I didn't want to disturb her by bringing Mistee in when both she and I had to pee. Instead we rode two blocks over to Ford Park and used the bathroom there. There were only two stalls, both of them open. I sat down first because I had to go the most badly. I noticed Mistee just standing in the doorway and fidgeting with her bike. She said she had to pee and also she felt her daily shit coming on BUT she said she would wait until later. Upon questioning her, I learned that her mom had taught her that sitting on a public toilet could cause her to catch a horrible disease, and since there was no toilet paper for her to place over the seat, she had decided to hold her in. When I questioned her, she just seemed fearful of using the stool and she decided to wait. Later, when questioned, Mistee admitted she had been taught NEVER to sit on a public toilet. I thought then, and I still think now, that that is a very unrealistic expectation, especially from a child much too young to take other precautions such as straddling. I'm so thankful that my parents raised me to be NORMAL and not to fear the inevitable use of public bathrooms. I also wonder how Mistee is doing today and whether she has found out how absurd her parents' beliefs were.

C.R.C. (not verified) -- 06.01.2007

I, too, had a friend like Mistee. Seth would always find an excuse for not taking a dump at school or when we were out somewhere together. After an hour or two you could smell it and knew that he had to go. I remember a couple of times when I'd be on the stool doing what he should have been doing and he would be waiting outside, but always he would have some sort of excuse. Such excuses included "It's not all completely ready to come out yet, but it will be in an hour or so." (after we're home!) or "The line's too long--I'll come back later" (i.e. after we forgot about it!). One summer my parents were driving us both to church Bible camp about 200 miles away and we made a stop at an interstate rest area. Five or six open stalls, nobody else in there, I sat down and took a shit and (like with Mistee)Seth seemed to be in awe that I could sit down and unload with such ease in a public place. The camp went for a full week and Seth was really constipated on Saturday when his mother drove up to bring us back home. We were about a third of the way home when she stopped to pee. I remember her asking Seth whether he was able to move his bowels and he came up with again another excuse for not wanting to sit down on a public toilet. Seth showed up at our 20-year class reunion last year but I didn't get around to asking him if he's gotten over his fear of public restrooms. From my point of view, they sure make life a lot more pleasant!

Di Verticula (58) -- 06.14.2007

Roni, This is how I have parented my two daughters - with love and acceptance, and not getting too excited over every day stuff, however unusual or messy. I was not raised in a screaming household and I don't screech at my kids. Kids are just kids. They deserve respect and the right to make a few mistakes as they learn.

Janet (not verified) -- 06.14.2007

When I was young--about 4 or 5--i probably wasn't as independent as I should have been when mom and I were out in public places. Mom and I would use adjacent stalls and I was reluctant,okey scared, to get up on the stool on my own. Mom says I would constantly complain that the seat was cold, loose, I couldn't latch the door, I would have trouble unbottoning my shorts, the woman on the opposite side of my stall was scaring me because she was talking to herself, farting noisily,, there was something strange in the bowl-- boy, I made up some great stories. After trying to sit and go on my own, I would get down and knock on mom's stall and she would always give-in to my excuse and try and comfort me. If she was peeing, I would wait in the stall for her and when she was done, she would turn it over to me. On occasion when she was pooping and going to be tied up longer, she would slide back on the stool and by further spreading her legs, allow me to sit in front of her and pee or poop. On more than one occasion, it made me feel good when she would grab for toilet paper and the roll would be empty. "Run next door, honey, and get me some" was something I enjoyed doing. Although it's been 20-some years and I've gained confidence on my own, I know that I saved her underwear on several occasions.

Makaela (not verified) -- 08.28.2007

My mother was very nurturing, much the same as Janet described. My best friend, Carissa, was a year younger than me and she was socially awkward. Since her parents were separating one summer and they later divorced, she did a lot with my family. But somehow, she just wanted to go along with the flow. She didn't want to cause us any trouble--a far cry from a couple of my other friends who were very narcissistic. I remember several times we would be in the car going to an amusement park, mall, etc. and Carissa smelled like she had to poop but she didn't tell us because she didn't want us to stop somewhere on her behalf. I also know there were times when she was in pain and just short of peeing her pants but she didn't want to speak up and cause us any trouble. One day at the mall my mom followed Carissa into the ladies room; she had been suspicious as to why Carissa had been riding in the car with her hand mostly between her legs. Carissa, who was about 8 at the time, barely got onto the stool before she peed and continued peeing for about five minutes. My mom told her it wasn't healthy to hold it like that and Carissa said that's what she had been taught by her parents. I thought that was so sad. After that either my mom or I would make it a point to go into the bathroom regularly and sit down in hopes that it would help Carissa to feel less imposing by not having to ask us to stop. Nurturing parents are so underappreciated!

Hamster (583) -- 08.29.2007

Nurt - your mom was great. Kids need to be given confidence to use public toilets when they need them - not be given lectures about the 'hazards'. At least that way, they'll be better equipped to deal with the stupid comments and bullying by older kids when they are at school and need to poop. Kids need to think of pooping as a completely natural thing that we all do when we get the urge - and no have the hang-ups that so many people do about public pooping.

Mother of Many (not verified) -- 02.20.2008

I raised four daughters within a 9 year age range and "helped" raise more than a dozen of their friends who my husband and I took with our family to baseball games, amusement parks and an occasional state fair. Nurterer is correct in her comments, but there are many children out there who spend almost no time away from home with their parents. They have no or very limited experience in using a public bathroom because they haven't had to. I remember once when I picked my youngest up during the first week of middle school and you could smell her holding her crap, I decided that we were going to stop at the mall for shopping and dinner (something she would enjoy) but that she would either have to go back into school and move her bowels or she would have to do it immediately when we got to the mall. She selected the former and I bought her a new outfit that night at the mall. After eating in the food court, I needed to go in and urinate. She said she could wait until we got home. Still she followed me into the bathroom, and while I was doing my thing in the stall, she went into the next stall and peed too. As we were washing our hands, she asked me a question about something that had been troubling her: why some girls sit on a public toilet, what some cover the seat first, and why some squat. Since that night and our discussion, she became much more comfortable about going to the bathroom away from home. The answer, I feel, is listening, rather than lecturing, yelling or ignoring the need.

shitake boy (125) -- 02.20.2008


I remember something similar to Mother's story that involved some innocent bribing. I must have been around 6 or 7 years old, and as stated in other posts, I was a pretty constipated child. I had not had a bowel movement in at least two days. My mother was getting nervous about it, and was forcing me to go on the toilet to poop, what seemed like every hour. But all the attempts were futile, no poop. I couldn't tolerate the prune juice that she was trying to give me, for everytime I would take a sip of it, I would gag. It was also at that time that I wanted a pocket AM radio like my older brother had (this was the 1970's). My mother then initiated the bribe...she said that if I moved my bowels, she and my father would immediately take me to get a pocket AM radio. Well, after finishing my dinner, I climbed the stairs to my sanctuary to sit on my light blue porcelin throne, with the door slightly open so that she could enter if need be. After what seemed like an eternity, and much straining, my determination to have that AM radio paid off, and the bowl was filled within minutes with one very large poop, and several smaller poops. I then called my mother into the bathroom, to inspect the deposit, and she applauded. By the time I went to bed, I was the proud owner of a brand new Lafayette AM pocket radio, with a leatherette case and earphones. Bribery does work. It appears my daughter is heading in the same constipated direction as her father, and she is only four months old. Who knows, I may have to bribe her to shit too.

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In search of the ever evasive BM

Samantha's Mom (not verified) -- 02.20.2008

My daughter had the exact same questions for me just as she started middle school: why do some girls sit directly down on the seat while others spread paper liner down or squat? I remember that I didn't have a ready answer that Samantha would accept other than some parents are more instructive than others and that some girls and women don't feel comfortable sitting directly on a public toilet seat. What I did emphasize to my daughter, however, is that there is no right or wrong answer. Rather, she has to decide what is best for her based on her standards and not what others say or do. I did tell her that I have become more particular and cautious as I've become older. Some of the things, especially the old wives tales in Evangeline's posting, were not very nurturing in their day. For the dimwitted, I would think they would have been outright petrifying.

Smarter Than Worried (not verified) -- 02.23.2008

Samantha's Mom seems to have handled the questions well; my 10 and 12 years olds ssked essentially the same things not too long ago and my oldest told me about verified special needs student at school who is very slow and holds the bathroom lines up by spending a substantial amount of time trying to line the seat with paper first, and when that doesn't work (and that's often the case) uses three or four paper hand towels to do the covering with. I wonder how many persons out there have a literal interpretation of what's posted above on Evangeline's list (04-30-07). That would be scary all these years later!

daphne (4406) -- 02.23.2008

Why doesn't somebody suggest to the mom to just buy her kid ass gaskets?


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prarie doggin (3909) -- 02.23.2008

Daphne, I travel a lot, and a long time ago, started collecting ass gaskets. I have quite an extensive collection from all over the country. If you are ever on the right coast, I would be happy to take you on a tour.

Logjam (2805) -- 02.23.2008

daphne, to husband and kids ---

"I'll only be gone one week, so stop the whining. And that goes for you kids as well."

"I told, you. Just an old guy I recently met on PoopReport who has this AMAZING collections of ass gaskets he's dying to show me. Frankly, I don't think he's ever showed them to anyone else, so this is kinda special. He actually refers to it as "a tour," and I'm it. The guest of honor."

"What do you mean, 'happening again?' This is not at all the same as the guy with the collection of carpet sweepers. First of all, they were mostly vacuums, as I now understand. Secondly, that guy was much older."

prarie doggin (3909) -- 02.23.2008

I'm polishing the display cases as we speak.

Logjam (2805) -- 02.23.2008

But I thought the butt prints on the glass were considered patina?

prarie doggin (3909) -- 02.23.2008

The gaskets have plenty of patina.

daphne (4406) -- 02.23.2008

I've never heard it called a display case before.

Boy, you sure polish fast.


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prarie doggin (3909) -- 02.23.2008

Oh, I have some that are so old that mere handling will cause them to fall apart. These must be kept in a sealed, climate controlled case, with an occasional spritzing of pure toilet water.

Reality Check Please (not verified) -- 02.24.2008

Let's get real. Do you actually think a middle school or high school student is going to want to be caught dead putting toilet paper or even a professionally made ass gasket on a toilet seat before sitting down. Get real! It's hard enough to get us to wash our hands let alone take the time and cause the scene to cover the seat. I don't know anyone under 40 who would use an ass gasket. For most of us our focus is on peeing or shitting and getting back to class as soon as possible.

prarie doggin (3909) -- 02.24.2008

RCP, if you do ever come across an ass gasket
(professionally made of course) that was actually used by a high school student, please contact me. That would be a rare find and I would be willing to negotiate a tidy sum for it.

Chet (not verified) -- 02.24.2008

I agree with Reality Check Please. Very few of the guys under 40 or even 50 (I'm in my late 50s) put paper over public toilet seats before sitting down. Although I was TAUGHT to do it, we would have been made fun of by the older boys who could easily monitor our activities because there were no doors on the stalls. When you walk down a row of 20-some stalls, and there's not one guy sitting on paper, you don't want to be different. When my son (Class of 96) was in school, he would complain about the situation (still no doors but an ample amount of urine on the seats) but he just bucked up, wiped it off before sitting down and survived. Now he's an MBA candidate, working for a school district and curiously, is the purchasing agent. There's only limited money for the restrooms and there's a lot of abuse that goes on. I don't expect too much is going to change before my grandchild starts his kindergarten classes this fall.

Curious Cami (not verified) -- 04.27.2008

What I don't understand from most of the postings is that most people, both male and female, are like me and don't mind sitting on public toilet seats. And they are teaching their children the same way. OK, but how to you explain the toilet seat tissues in metal holders in each stall at stores like Wal-Mart? I know my mom uses them, but I just don't know anyone else who does. By the way, if it matters, I'm 14.

prarie doggin (3909) -- 04.27.2008

Cami, as you are quite young, you may not be fully aware that the world we live in is full of people who like to sue, and lawyers who are willing to accomodate them. Wal Mart (most likely) has gaskets available for the same reason coffee cups contain the words " be careful, hot liquids" on them. If a person were to slip off a wet seat, or claim mental trauma due to a dirty seat, the claim can be refuted by the presence of the available gaskets. You would be greatly surprised by the amount of warnings/disclaimers you come across in an average day. You probably don't notice because they are so much of our daily lives these days.

The best thing you can do when and if you have children is to teach them basic hygene to use in facilities that they have no control of sanitation. This goes for eating facilities also. In restaurants my advice is "no soap or towels in bathroom = no business from me. The other thing you can teach your children is to take some responsibility for their own mistakes or accidents and don't always look for some corporate deep pockets to make a buck. It affects all of us in ways you can't imagine. Good luck, life is good. Don't waste it by worrying about the little things.

daphne (4406) -- 04.27.2008

Cami, you spell alot better than many of our adult posters.


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baron von crapalot (649) -- 04.28.2008


Cami, I am impressed by your intelect, and agree with Daphne, as my spelling is terrible. Take on board, if you will, the comments made by prarie doggin

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sittingpretty (2336) -- 04.28.2008

I want to see Prarie doggins gasket display too.

sittingpretty (2336) -- 04.28.2008

I could make a nice soft cushy gasket with straps so it doesn't slip off by the time you turn around to sit down. The air movement from turning around and sitting down always causes my seat covers to slip off. The downside to the home- made gasket is I would not want to touch it after it touched the nasty underside of the seat. I wouldn't even want to contaminate my washing machine with public assblast stains that were there before my throneing.

prarie doggin (3909) -- 04.28.2008

SP, there is a long waiting list of people from all over the globe wishing to peruse my galleries, however any interested PR's can be put to the head of the line. Oh and to keep the gasket from blowing off due to ass bottoming wind, I use chewing gum.

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