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Unisex Toilets: A Proposal

Posted 02.03.2009 by fernando (11)
Public toilets are social equalizers. They erase distinctions between the genders. In them, men and women are stripped of their differences. Social class, wealth, race, age, culture, nationality, and even religion are set aside. Two men at the urinal are equal. Two feet under a stall have the same hierarchy. Both produce farts and both stink. It doesn't matter if a guy pooping in a stall is a blue collar worker and the guy shitting next to him is a Harvard alumnus. Both have an urgent need to shit and both are men. I assume a similar story unfolds in the ladies room.

Society has accepted public toilets as places where differences are set aside and equality is the norm. But a major difference still exists: that between men and women.

Public toilets have failed to erase this difference. It is acceptable for a Wall Street broker to take a leak next to a construction worker, or a politician to take a dump next to a cop at an airport restroom; however, it would be unthinkable to take a dump in a restaurant while your date applies make-up -- or worse still, to take a leak while she takes a dump.


Unisex toilets would erase the difference in gender -- and, in consequence, would be people equalizers. They would demystify the Victorian taboo of shame between men and women when going to the bathroom. Urinating and defecating are physiological functions, just like breathing, sleeping, and eating. There's nothing wrong with them. Poop is natural and there's nothing disgusting with it if handled properly. It is society which has attached to it the taboo of uncleanliness, guilt, and shame.

This can be partly understood because, in the 19th century, sewage systems were not always existent and the toilet as we know it today was not yet perfected. There were many outbreaks of cholera and other diseases. So poop was considered extremely dangerous, and it was understandable that people had an aversion to it. On the other hand, Victorian morality made it fashionable to pretend you didn't poop. The higher you were in the social scale, the less "earthly" you were. So for the higher classes, it was essential to pretend they didn't poop and thus hide all the aspects related to pooping. That's why the water closet was invented. And that's how privacy became the norm.

If pooping was considered taboo for society as a whole, for women it was unthinkable. "Girls don't poop" -- and the only thing emanating from a women's body should be the scent of roses. That was the prevailing ideology, and that's the primary reason why men and women are segregated when going to the bathroom. At least in Western society.


Opponents of unisex toilets might argue that they're not soundproof. True, but what's wrong with hearing farts, plops, or crackling sounds? They're not worse than hearing someone blowing their nose. Or sneezing, or coughing.

They may argue that they're not smell-proof. True, you can smell someone's gas, but what else would you expect in a public restroom? And would you really care if the poop smell comes from a man or a woman? Poop always stinks anyway.

They may argue they're not sight-proof. So what's the big deal with seeing someone's shoes -- or high heels -- under a stall? You're not seeing nudity or anything else you wouldn't see outside the restroom.

Finally, the test of fire: they may argue that women might get offended by seeing a man's penis. Regarding this delicate issue: there's no reason why a woman should see a penis inside a unisex toilet any more than a man should see a vagina. However, since men in a hurry sometimes unzip before getting to the urinal accidentally, my solution would be placing the urinals in a separate area where women would be visually protected. That way, this issue would be solved once and for all.

Furthermore, since most people, men and women, enter a public toilet for a #1, pooping issues would be minimized. Most women would use the stalls to pee; and if they pooped, it would not be such an issue for them since they always use stalls anyway. On the other hand, most men would use the urinals; and, given their proposed location, it would not pose any problem.

If a man did need to pass a B.M., he would use a stall, and this would not pose any problems for him. It has always been more acceptable for a man to show his human side than for a woman. And he would be surrounded mostly by women using the stalls who would not care. Women only care about piss on the seat, and this would not be the case.


A unisex toilet does bring some changes. Women can no longer go to the bathroom without the presence of men, and thus cannot discuss women-only issues; but they would be compensated by shorter queues. And if space affords it, a separate women's lounge with a few women-only stalls could be considered (if the restroom is large enough, of course).

Regarding the main stalls, they should all be labeled for men and women; and most, if not all, should have tampon dispensers for women. The few without them should have a men's sign on them, although women could use them as well.

Changes for men would be minimal, since men don't go in groups to the bathroom and don't linger in it like women. Men would tend to wash their hands more, since it would be embarrassing not doing so in front of women. The biggest issue for a guy would be realizing that a girl poops -- and this is something that could be very weird for us. However, a unisex toilet would prepare people to accept the fact that everyone poops, and it's no big deal, just as gender specific bathrooms do between the genders.


Unisex toilets can work better in some places than others. They can be more easily accepted in places where chances of meeting someone you know are very small; places with very open-minded people; places where everyone is just too drunk to care; or simply places where people are desperate to go and no other option is available. When you gotta go, you gotta go.

From the builder's perspective, the main reasons to install a unisex toilet are the premium placed on space, better utilization, and smaller queues, all of which lead to efficiency, better allocation of resources, and economies of scale. Some places may even install unisex toilets deliberately, since it may be fashionable, like trendy bars and restaurants. Others may install them to generate a certain dynamic between people, like some companies (Ally McBeal, for example). Once a coworker has heard you poop, the relationship goes to a deeper level (nothing sexual involved).


In conclusion, unisex toilets can be installed in most places where at least one reason exists to justify them. Men and women can get used to them and accept them without major problems. Pooping is natural and the taboo around it is largely unfounded and obsolete.

In the 21st Century, we should get rid of Victorian ideas that deny bodily functions. Men and women are equally capable, and can be civilized enough to share a common restroom.

This doesn't mean the end of the magic between the genders. On the contrary, it celebrates our differences and highlights the fact that we are all humans -- and humanity should be united.

El Scumbag (598) -- 02.03.2009

An excellent and thought-provoking article, Fernando.

However, although you paint a very vivid picture of a toilet utopia where all are equal, I would personally vote against unisex lavatories.

The restroom is more than a place for the expulsion of bodily waste. It is the one remaining area of society where the sexes are not intermingling and I believe that we need that area of seperation. We all believe (at least most of us do) that sexual equality is a good thing and necessary if mankind is to evolve socially, but there remains a need within us all that occasionally craves the exclusive company of our own gender, such as a night out with "the boys" or "the girls". If someone brings their partner to one of these events, the partner may be made to feel perfectly welcome, but deep inside, the group would prefer it to be a "boys" or "girls" night. That's just the way we are.

The toilet, as I said, is not just a functional place. It is an environment exclusive to the gender for which it is intended, and for that reason they become social hubs for that gender. Women don't just go to the ladies room to pee and poop, they go to chat, to apply cosmetics and yes, to bitch and gossip about men and each other. Men do almost exactly the same thing. We also chat with each other about various matters, make ourselves look presentable, bitch and gossip about women and other men, and generally enjoy an exclusively male environment with no women in it, so that we can fart, burp or fulfil whatever function we came in to do. One can't do that in the same way with a unisex kharzi. Being able to gossip in the toilets is almost a human right! I doubt that shorter queues would compensate for it's absence. Even if we have the toilet to ourselves, knowing that if anyone enters the room it is someone of the same gender means that there is an unspoken sympathetic understanding there, which a unisex toilet would not encourage.

Although I agree that in the 21st century we should all be less awkward about our bodily functions, and Ally McBeal style restrooms are a great social leveller, I prefer things the way they always have been. The sexes do need a bit of respite from each other and I firmly believe that we like it that way.

Great comment! +1 point
C Everett Poop (792) -- 02.03.2009

Put me down as against it in the USA. There are many unisex restrooms in Korea and it works fine. They have a row of urinals on one side and a row of stalls on the other, no problem.

I'm against it in the USA because women take forever and I don't want to wait in line while a bunch of dizzy hags check their makeup, gossip, yammer on cell phones, change clothes, smoke, fix their hair, shit, piss and god knows what the fuck else they do in there.

I also think the trial lawyer, scumbag, ambulance chasing shysters would have a field day with the owners of said facility the first time there was an ambush rape in the unisex crapper.

I think the embarrassment/shame aspect of it would go away pretty quickly. I have seen plenty of women back their asses up to a urinal at a crowded stadium if the ladies room line is too long and they seem to have no problem with it. It's just an idea who's time has not come yet.

C Everett Poop (792) -- 02.03.2009

Damn you El Scumbag, for saying the same thing I said and hitting the submit button faster.....

Leaky Bowel King (458) -- 02.03.2009

This is a great theory!!! I've pondered over a lot of ideas stated here, and have seen a few unisex bathrooms, and even shower rooms, mainly in college dorms. But I can still understand why a lot of public restrooms would be seperated. In bars, and even high schools, there's a high enough problem of people sneaking into womens, or men's bathroom one to have sex. Well if they were in a unisexual bathroom, that would make it easier for people to have sex in the bathrooms since they don't have to worry about one of the people involved being in the wrong restroom. On the other hand, I've always been perplexed by the idea of single stall, lockable bathrooms and even porta-potties labeled for men or women. I've been in gas stations where there'd be three or four men waiting to take dumps in a single stall restroom, and the women's bathroom would be unhappy. And when I have to shit, it's generally urgent, so I have no shame going into that single women's room. If you are going to have single stall restrooms, and have more than one, then they should be for everone to use. Hopefully these ideas that women's rooms are sacred places, and men's rooms are nasty caves will eventually go away as people realize we are all equal in the shitter. Once again, fernando, great ideas, they were very well written.

Leaky Bowel King (458) -- 02.03.2009

Damn both of you CEP and scumbag!!! I thought I was gonna post the first comment. Ya'll were both faster.

El Scumbag (598) -- 02.03.2009

Actually CEP, you made a very valid point about the potential for ambush rape. I daresay there is as much chance of it happening in other places, not just the unisex crapper, but when a woman goes into a toilet currently, she's in a vulnerable position and doesn't expect a man to come in.

Which reminds of the joke about the guy who goes into the ladies room and takes a piss. As he leaves the stall, he starts to put his dick away and a woman accosts him, scolding him fiercely.
"How dare you come in here! This is for ladies!"
"Oh yeah?" he replies, pointing to his dick "So's this!"

Leaky Bowel King (458) -- 02.03.2009

The rape part actually was a good point. When I stated about it making it easier to have sex in a unisex restroom in a place like a bar without really having to worry, I didn't think about gangbang type rapes. But it was in the bac of my mind somewhere. I think that could be an issue, just as much as jumping a guy and beating the shit out of him is easy in a men's only room. Bathrooms allow for a certain amount of privacy that can be dangerous. no cameras, no one guarding the bathrooms, unless there's someone in the bathroom to witness and testify, that could very well be an issue.

ChiefThunderbutt (2712) -- 02.03.2009

I lean neither pro nor con on this issue. I have lived in countries where both male and female patrons of a business used the same toilet with no problem.. I once read a book that was entitled "Understanding the Japanese Mind." I thought, since my wife is Japanese, this would be a good thing to do. The book pointed out that in pre-World War Two the public bath houses in Japan were all unisex. The book also pointed out that violent sexual crimes at that time were almost unheard of. At the end of the war the Japanese acquiesced to the victors and started segregating these facilities. We told them this was by far the correct moral decision to make in this situation. The crime of forcible rape is still much higher in the western world than it is in Japan but their rate is higher than it was in bygone days. Was this because, since the Japanese male had been exposed to nude females on a daily basis, he had no need to drag one back in the bushes for a closer check? I would not lobby for unisex facilities but I would not worry about them if they became the norm.

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phatmanxxl (514) -- 02.03.2009

I can't see a unisex bathroom being a shameful shitters nightmare, if its not the single stall type. I personally dont mind them as they tend to be cleaner. I noticed the growing trend of the mens, women and "family/unisex" restrooms in newer buildings, but I dont see any elimination of the segregated ones any time in my lifetime at least. Also I'm not really thrilled to having to sit hearing 4 women gab about their lame boyfriends while I'm trying to pinch one off.

Great comment!
Eoz1 (not verified) -- 02.03.2009

Why exactly would you want to erase or conceal the differences between men and women? We might be "equal" when it comes to the law, but we are very different from each other.

I am by no means a prude, but I would not want to share a unisex, multi-stall bathroom. I don't want to enter my daughter (if I had one) and have her exposed to men using urinals. I wouldn't want there to be only a thin door and a few inches between me with my pants down and a gross pervert heavy-breathing on the other side.

You say things like:

"You're not seeing nudity or anything else you wouldn't see outside the restroom." - How is nudity any better or worse than pooping? Do you in fact dislike being reminded of the physical differences between men and women?

"A separate women's lounge with a few women-only stalls could be considered" - Isn't that what we have now? Women-only "lounges" (aka the ladies' room)?

"And most, if not all, should have tampon dispensers for women." - Why? To be honest, I don't see why a man should have to be subject to a tampon dispenser. He doesn't need to cram it up his hole and I doubt he wants to think about that while he's taking a dump.

"Men and women are equally capable, and can be civilized enough to share a common restroom." - Ah, says who, you? Think again.

"and smaller queues," - No. Bathrooms - unisex or otherwise - would be built to accommodate an average number of people. During rush times, there would be lines, because one larger bathroom would be accommodating men AND women.

Bottom line, I believe, is that we don't NEED to be equalized and combined in every aspect of our lives. People enjoy privacy and they enjoy being different from everyone else (we're all the same, but people don't like to think so). Forced unisex bathrooms just seems like a waste of time and effort.

Mrs. Mad Crapper (1012) -- 02.03.2009

pass! as bad as the toilet smells after the Mr or the little turds go I'd hate to have to deal with the same stench or worse in public. Not that women don't stink...and then they have that horrible old lady purfume on that blends with the shit smell to make an unimaginable potpourri of stench. Aw damn it all! I'll just keep doing my business at home.
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MSG (1142) -- 02.03.2009

I don't see the US going to all unisex toilets any time soon, but I wouldn't mind seeing that sort of facility available. I have been in places where only one bathroom was built on a given floor, and it has to be either men's or women's. That means, if I'm on the floor with the women's, I have to go up or down a story to find the men's. In places like that, a unisex provision would save some steps. It would not bother me to have to use such a facility.

Great comment! +1 point
Logjam (2801) -- 02.03.2009

This proposal heads in the wrong direction. Given a choice, most of us would opt for our own, individual public restroom. Note that you don't see two toilets in single residential bathrooms like you do two sinks. Bottom line: we'd rather not share shit time with anyone. So go community organize somewheres else.

Deja Poo (966) -- 02.03.2009

There is no way that I would let my (theoretical) adolescent daughter use a restroom where there might be adult males. To do so, in my opinion, is to invite trouble.
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The Big Wiper (2287) -- 02.03.2009

Radical feminists have long proclaimed that differences between the genders are the result of socialization. Not so. There are obvious physiological differences that will never disappear. But little boys and little girls are wired differently from the outset. It is reflected in the way they play, think, what toys they choose and how they choose their friends. I remember reading an interview article with Goldie Hawn in which she admitted that she went into parenthood with typical feminist notions. She thought she could socialize her son and daughter to be the same. Then she admitted that both children conformed to something that she definitely believed to be wiring. No matter what she said to encourage her children to behave as she thought they should, her son chose boy toys and her daughter chose girl toys, etc.

Elsewhere--it's possible for a family to, in effect, maintain a unisex bathroom at home. The members of the family know each other. Even then, some people are not comfortable with members of the opposite gender using the bathroom with them. But the notion that sharing a unisex bathroom with a stranger is somehow going to improve relations between the genders is a huge stretch.

I do not agree with the notion that the differences between the genders are somehow a negative and must be wiped out by whatever means possible.


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Leaky Bowel King (458) -- 02.03.2009

I have given a day full of thought to this story and where, this morning, I was on the fence about this issue, I've decided today that having unisex bathrooms in somewhere like a work place is a bad idea. Taking my work place, for example, we have both employees and customers use our bathrooms, and I wouldn't wanna be in the bathroom taking a piss or shitting when one of my trusted female customers walk in. Likewise, I don't wanna be doing one or the other if a rather attractive coworker enters, or if I enter and she's blowing up the place. That kills any attraction there may be. I think this can apply to office jobs just as easily. I just don't think america is ready for unisex public bathrooms.

Bilgepump (2747) -- 02.03.2009

Are there any uni-sex people? No? Didn't think so. Debate over.
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Logjam (2801) -- 02.03.2009

Well, aren't most of us uni-sex? In fact, aren't our current restrooms uni-sex and what fernando is proposing are bi-sex or ultra-sex restrooms? Debate back on.

The Big Wiper (2287) -- 02.03.2009

I agree with you, Bilge, but technically there is the hermaphrodite. Is there a joke here somewhere? How can you tell if someone is a hermaphrodite? Wait and see which can he/she comes out of. No, wait! That wouldn't work.
Uh...let's move on.

Anyhoo, Bilge is correct. We aren't unisex by nature.


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Nine Inch Log (564) -- 02.03.2009

This article makes me wonder. Our senator got in trouble and was branded as gay because he tapped his foot in a standard restroom. What would the etiquite be in a unisex restroom?

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Bilgepump (2747) -- 02.03.2009

Logjam, I hate disagreements with you, it hurts my heart, but the "uni" in unisex doesn't refer to "one", it refers to "universal" in this case.
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The proper order is kiss me, then go smell the other dog or cat's butt. I cannot stress this enough.

Level 7 User (not verified) -- 02.03.2009

When you said, "'Girls don't poop' -- and the only thing emanating from a women's body should be the scent of roses. That was the prevailing ideology, and that's the primary reason why men and women are segregated when going to the bathroom," you really sound like an idiot because that is NOT "the primary reason why men and women are segregated." It is because men expose their sexual organs when they pee at a urinal.

That is actually the reason why I am not planning to "transition" my body anytime in the near future, or at least until it becomes mandatory for there to be a unisex bathroom (there would still be male and female restrooms, you dummies) at every public place in the U.S. I know I would only become MORE uncomfortable in a room full of exposed penises and am therefore unwilling to destroy my beautiful female body with a substance called Testosterone Cypionate that would make me unwelcome in the ladies’ room for the rest of my life, the voice and facial change being irreversible.

It also infuriates me like you can’t imagine when people, particularly FtM transsexuals on YouTube who were raised female but think they're male now, say that women just "go in the restroom to strike-up conversations with random strangers," because that is not something I have EVER found to be the case!!! I have been using ladies’ rooms throughout my entire 25 years of life and I’ve NEVER known someone to randomly speak to me when they didn’t know me, nor have I ever been thrown-out for "looking male," since I’m Pre-T and my hair isn’t near as short as the hair of the Yahoo! Avatar you’ll see if you click my name link. If little boys can go in with their moms up to age 10, why would it be a problem for me to continue what I've been doing my whole life if I got a crewcut and started buying men's clothing?

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Bilgepump (2747) -- 02.03.2009

I really like it when the kids take themselves so seriously...probably a good thing, because I don't.
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The proper order is kiss me, then go smell the other dog or cat's butt. I cannot stress this enough.

Nine Inch Log (564) -- 02.03.2009

This article makes me wonder. Our senator got in trouble and was branded as gay because he tapped his foot in a standard restroom. What would the etiquite be in a unisex restroom?

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daphne (4391) -- 02.04.2009

I've never said this during the entire five years I've been on PR, but I couldn't finish this article. It reminds me too much of something Reginald A. Smith would have posted, but cleaned up and edited by an incredible author (dave). I'm genuinely sorry. I'll try to work my way through it later.

As to the Victorian Era being the reason men and women use different restrooms, I find myself disagreeing with this. The Roman baths were sex-separate. If indeed this is the reason it is so in the Western Hemisphere, is this to assume we have record of the colonists having unisex crappers? I'd like to see that, and I'm not asking in a sarcastic, nasty way.


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phatmanxxl (514) -- 02.04.2009

I wouldnt be suprised if the OP perfers to do #1 and #2 at home and will hold it in at all costs than using a public bathroom of any type.

The Big Wiper (2287) -- 02.04.2009

daph: haha! Reginald A. Smith! No wonder it felt so familiar!


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Mrs. Mad Crapper (1012) -- 02.04.2009

oh my gawd Daph you are so right! I knew it sounded familiar and was unable to finish it myself.
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pnuttycorn (456) -- 02.04.2009

I guess I'm too immature for unisex bathrooms. I'd get banned for trying to sneek a peek at men's willies. I just wouldn't be able to help myself. I'd get arrested, marked as a perv....
At least I'm honest. And....Smelling girl shit is bad enough... And I think most men would be embarasssed to poop in the same bathroom as women.

Logjam (2801) -- 02.04.2009

Pnutty -- you may be too immature for a unisex bathroom, but I assure you, based on your comment above, that you are not too immature for the men's room. So I hereby invite you into any one of our many establishments.

fernando (11) -- 02.04.2009

Hey, I want to thank everyone for all their feedback. I knew this topic would create controversy but never imagined so many responses.

The fact that so many people have doubts about unisex toilets make the subject even more enriching. And it would also be even more interesting to install unisex toilets even as experimental to see people's reaction in real life.

Thanks for your feedback once again.

daphne (4391) -- 02.05.2009

Fernando, you're absolutely right. The one thing we love on Poopreport is a story that gets people thinking. You did just that.

I did read the entire submission and think that maybe this concept isn't for the U.S.A, yet. However, I do respect this is your opinion and didn't mean to insult you in any manner.

By the way, do you know if the colonists in the 1600's or 1700's had unisex crappers? I was not kidding when I wanted to know if you had found information on this. This would be a very interesting article.
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sittingpretty (2317) -- 02.05.2009

Although i have stepped in many a men's room when desparate, i am against unisex restrooms. My first thought was RAPE made easier.
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Nine Inch Log (564) -- 02.05.2009

I am reminded of an earlier debate about vandalism in school bathrooms. In that article was a claim that the handwashing area be public/unusex and then have private stalls with floor to celieng doors. There would be no urinals and no half assed stalls. Simple a row of toilets, each one in its own 3 walls and a door. Have, say 10 of these forming a U. The middle of the U would consist of the waiting / washing area. I would much prefer that over what we have now.

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crewzinforabrewzin (5) -- 02.08.2009

i would like to see more unisex toilets. if there were more unisex bathrooms i would'nt have to sneak into womans bathrooms anymore, i could just walk in and get my perv on.i love sitting in the stall next to a woman getting my jollies listening to her piss, and if i'm lucky she might go all the way for me and poop. not that the sounds,and smells are enough. they just make me want more. so i try to sneek a peek through the cracks between the stall door and wall, or maybe i will try standing on a toilet and peering over the stall wall watching you from above while your sitting there staring at the floor thinking that the walls of your stall are keeping you hidden from the view of eyes like mine. hearing the farts, listening to the splashes, smelling freshly excreted bodily waste, acidently walking in on a woman on purpose, these are some of the best times i ever had and with more unisex bathrooms there is no dought that some of my best times are yet to come.
not to change the subject and i know this is not about poop but i was wondering does anyone know where to get some of those little pinhole cameras? would like to purchase several of them.

Great comment! +1 point
El Scumbag (598) -- 02.08.2009

crewzinforabrewzin

What a fascinating and wild life you must lead, Sir!

If you'll forgive my unpardonable arrogance in assuming that a man of the world such as your good self might listen to such crudely obvious advice from an uninvited stranger, I believe that your interests would best be served by using the cash for the spy cameras and instead hiring a specialised prostitute, paying her all the money you have to fulful whatever voyeuristic scat fantasies you wish. And why not? Go on, spoil yourself. You've earned it. After all, you have nothing else to spend it on, as you are clearly saving a lot by avoiding women and people who like you, so in addition to finding out what a real live one actually looks and feels like, you'll also be helping out a girl who needs the money more than you do and giving her the rare joy so seldom found in such a demanding profession these days: somebody less fortunate than she, whom it is totally acceptable to laugh about with her colleagues when they reminisce about their oddest and most socially inept customers.

Postman (808) -- 02.08.2009

El Scumbag -

Amen!

Pissed @ ignorance (not verified) -- 02.17.2009

Hey Level7User! If you want to transition into a man or be viewed as a man, than you must act like one. Which means, using the MENs room. If you are going to act & dress like one then by God you better act like one & stop being afraid of a penis. You walk into a womens restroom looking & walking like a dude, you're going to have bigger issues than if you did that in a mens room. Men aren't going to pay a bit of attention to anyone that is in there. Whether you like it or not, all women produce testosterone, whether it's natural or a synthetic injectable. But if you are afraid of penis's, then why transition from an F to an M? You have much larger problems than can be solved on a poop site. All I can wish you is a good solid BM!

The Poopfessional (6) -- 02.24.2009

You pretty much hit it on the head P@I...

As an FTM (female to male trans-person) and a long time poop report reader, I can tell you that in a mens room... No one is overtly looking at any penis's. And unless you go in there watching for someone to unzip their fly, you probably won't see one by accident either. Most guys tend to whip it out towards a urinal or in a stall, rather than towards the door where everyone walking in can see it...

I can also attest to the simple facts that: Yes... most mens rooms are dirtier than womens rooms. No... most men do not spend a lot of time talking. Much less than the majority of women do. They pretty much don't even look at each other during the duration of the restroom visit. Yes... In my 29 years I have had several women I did not know try to strike up conversation with me in the commode (rude!). I have NEVER been approached by a man I did not know in a bathroom for any reason, except one time when a guy needed some TP.

There should be unisex bathrooms available for people who do not easily fit into a male or female category (intersex/hermaphrodites/trans people in various stages of gender reassignment). Or for families. I have seen how most guys bathrooms do not have baby changing stations etc...

I don't think 10 year olds of either gender should be allowed in an opposite gender bathrooms or locker rooms. Once they are old enough to point out Tits & Ass (or dicks, balls, or vagina's), they are too old to share a damn bathroom.

By and large I agree that most people would not feel comfortable in a mixed gender john.

Regardless of what most people think, you can't just up and go have a sex change. You have to go through a LOT of therapy, and so much more...

Frankly this person probably has only had limited education regarding what it means to be transgender, and all that you have to go through in order to actually medically transition from one gender to another (or in-between) (it happens).

Hero (not verified) -- 04.07.2009

Poopfessional: people like you are sick. I mean in the head, not disgusting. Although you are that as well. Don't you realize it's just wires crossed (so to speak) in your brain that makes you THINK you're supposed to be a man? Instead of changing your body you should have had therapy until you were human again. *sigh* I hope I never meet someone like you, because they'd be attacked. By the way I'm liberal but I have limits.

El Scumbag (598) -- 04.08.2009

Hero, you are about as liberal as a muslim cleric.

It is extraordinary that ignoramuses like you believe in ill-concieved opinions founded on personal prejudice rather than the evidence of your senses and the testimony of those affected by transgender issues. No doubt you believe that homosexuality can be 'cured' by therapy also.

It's probably a good thing that you won't run into many transexuals under that slimy stone where you live. Having to cope with confrontation from such a ghastly self-righteous popinjay as yourself would be such a bore.

daphne (4391) -- 04.08.2009

Actually, I think it's cute that he thinks his brain has wires in it.


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IBS NO MORE (293) -- 04.08.2009

Most PoopReporters agree: Hero is clearly a headcase.

Back to the subject at hand... I say restrooms should be divided by function instead of gender. Then all restrooms could be marked 1 or 2, and you use the one designated for the correlating function.

Or you could appeal to a more intellectual audience by using the Shakespearean 2P or Not2P.

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Postman (808) -- 04.08.2009

Here's my proposal about unisex toilets: what the hell, why not?

zartlett fartalot (6) -- 06.09.2009

Um ladies restrooms are just as smelly and yucky as mens, but of a different smell. Mens is of pee mainly because you have a different place to pee and it just does. Womans smell of poop because when we are on no matter who there poo smells because of there internal hormones!

To make them unisex though, I dont want to see a mans cock thank you when he is going for a wee, but that is not the main reason. My reason is we like to do our make up there and we dont want men getting in the way!


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Aint it the truth (not verified) -- 07.05.2009

Truthfully, most women would probably not poop in a public bathroom, whether for females only o a unisex bathroom, because they feel shame among themselves as a gender, not only among people in general, for pooping. This would increase the hesitance to poop in a bathroom, given that not only are other people around, but that some of them are men! The female pooping-shame phenomenon is one that I do not believe could be erased by unisex bathrooms.

ChiefThunderbutt (2712) -- 07.05.2009

Kinda shows you how far we are removed from what should be our basic values. Pooping is normal and should not give you feelings of shame. I have lived in countries that do not share our prudishness.


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Samantha (not verified) -- 07.05.2009

Me and my boyfriend have used unisex toilets at places such as convenient stores, gas stations and most recently the portable potties at an outdoor concert.

When I take over a stall from a guy what I don't like is the splashed pee on the seat. Sometimes the lines are so long and there's no or very little toilet paper on the roll, so I just have to make the best of it and sit down in it. My boyfriend said he's had to take a shit into bowls filled with others' shit because the female products floating in there won't flush.

Also, the past two weeks I've used two unisex toilets where because of heavy use the latches have been broken off or are very loosely hanging on the door. So much for privacy, I guess.

ChiefThunderbutt (2712) -- 07.05.2009

Samantha....I learn as I live, I was not aware that female poo floated and refused to flush. I knew that my Japanese wife was an alien but, is she a space alien? Her poo seems to flush as well as mine.


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Postman (808) -- 07.05.2009

Chief, women shit just as big and as long as men, but the conservative right wing media have kept this fact a secret from the rest of us.

I blame FOX News.

ChiefThunderbutt (2712) -- 07.05.2009

Postman.............I love it when we can find a right wing scapegoat!! Does Sarah Palin's shit stink?? Nothing political, just curiosity.


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Postman (808) -- 07.05.2009

It not only stinks, but once it's in the bowl, it leans way to the right.

MSG (1142) -- 07.06.2009

I doubt seriously that the poster above, in referring to feminine products, meant poop, though it is possible, of course.

IBS NO MORE (293) -- 07.06.2009

Zackly. "Female products" definitely does not equal "poo" in female-speak... and yes, female products do float.
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Anal Fissureman (15) -- 08.13.2009

Wow, for liberated shitters, some of y'all seem pretty uptight about who's in the bathroom making that smell. I don't know if this will make you less uncomfortable or more uncomfortable, but the simple fact that there's a little sign on the door doesn't mean that your bathrooms are segregated now. It's possible that many of us have been in a bathroom some point, pinching a loaf, when unbeknownst to us, someone of the opposite sex was in that bathroom at the same time. The fact that we weren't raped was probably not luck, but rather that most people who go into a bathroom go there primarily because they need to go to the bathroom. I appreciate that some people feel more comfortable when bathrooms are segregated. That's quite valid, but it's silly to think that segregated bathrooms are necessarily safer. BTW, we already have gender-neutral bathrooms in America. They're called family bathrooms. Thought-provoking piece, Fernando.

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