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The Violation Of Room 104

Posted 06.12.2006 by MotelShit (47)
As you may or may not remember, I work in a small hotel in southern Minnesota. It's your basic Country Inn & Suites knockoff -- an above-average thirty-seven room joint. I normally work the three-to-eleven shifts during the boring weekdays. However, last weekend I pulled a Saturday three-to-eleven. As a rule, I try to avoid Saturday nights, since we are usually packed full with large family gatherings and wedding groups. I'm not anti-social -- I just don't like demanding people.

Last Saturday I strolled into work pumped up for anything that might go down. I was prepared for demanding guests, bitchy guests, and ungrateful guests. I was also prepared for lots of small children, which are also on my list of unfavorite items. My night started out fine: I surfed the Internet, did some laundry, and kept up with my job duties. I was not, however, prepared for what was about to happen later that night.

Around six o'clock, people started to check in. The wedding group people were less than savory. I don't remember the last time I had seen such a perfect example of pure white trash. The twenty-one-year-old girls already had three or four kids, and all the men were sweaty and dressed in flannel shirts with the sleeves cut off. As I got all of these characters checked in, I noticed they started gathering in the lobby area. I didn't have a huge problem with this because it meant the other guests wouldn't complain about the noise level down the hallways. As the lobby group got larger, I noticed that the number of small children was growing to enormous amounts. There must have been fifteen or twenty kids between the ages of four and ten. I made a vow to myself to keep my cool and just let the group enjoy their redneck gathering.

Eventually this group of bumpkins made their way into the pool area. I was grateful for this. They all could have used a chlorinated dip anyway.

Around 7:30, a little girl of about five came running up the front desk, yelling, "Devin pooped in the pool! Devin pooped in the pool!"

Those are dreaded words to a hotel front desk clerk. A poop in the pool means evacuating the entire pool for the rest of the night, until the maintenance guy can come in and shock it or do whatever it is he does. This also meant the rednecks would be back in the lobby drinking Jack Daniels out of styrofoam cups.

I made my way into the pool area to find a dark brown section of liquid shit in the middle of the pool. The water made it spread out so it looked like a massive amount of poo. I looked at the other children in the pool with disgust and yelled, "GET OUT OF THE POOL!" Apparently their parents weren't smart enough to tell them that themselves.

I turned around and saw what must have been the pooping Devin. He was a little boy of about three years old with a brown spot on the back of his swim trunks. He was laughing at his creation. I gave him a look that could have made the sasquatch cry. I then looked at his mother, who was smiling at the situation. She looked me straight in the face with a huge smile and said, "Just wait till you have kids! Stuff like this is nothing!"

I looked back at the lady and said, "My dog has better manners than that kid."

The woman took her pooping three-year-old out of the pool area in a huff and I was left with the other hillbillies. I announced that the pool was going to be closed for the rest of the weekend and told everyone to evacuate the area. This did not sit well with anyone. The redneck dads tried to tell me that the chlorine would disinfect the pool and it would be fine in twenty minutes. The redneck moms wanted to stay and use the hot tub. The redneck twenty-one-year-olds wanted to stay in the pool area and drink. I had HAD IT. I told everyone that if they weren't out of the pool area in three minutes I would call the police. This seemed to get them moving, as I'm sure most of them had warrants out on them for DUIs or cruelty to farm sheep.

I called Luther, a sweet old man from town that does odd jobs around the hotel and acts as our maintenance guy. I told him the situation, feeling terrible for calling him in on a Saturday night because of turd terrorism. He said he would be there in a while, and told me to lock the pool door for now.

As I was going for the key to the pool door, I noticed the rednecks were back in the lobby. However, I didn't see any children. I was grateful for this and prayed they had been sent to bed.

As I got back behind the front desk, the phone rang. It was an inside call. I answered, "Front desk," and heard a small child's voice on the other end. She couldn't pronounce her "r" sounds. "Ummm," she said, "we, umm, need some paper towels. My bwother did something bad."

I asked what room she was in and she hung up. I looked at the computer phone log and saw it was room 104, right around the corner. I couldn't even imagine what the problem was -- and frankly, I didn't want to know. I went out into the lobby where the parents were drinking and asked, "Is anyone here in room 104?"

No one responded. They all gave a blank look. I took that as a no and walked down the hall to104. I didn't know if the kids were in there alone or if a parent was sleeping or what the deal was, but I had to find out.

I knocked on the door and heard children scurrying around as if they were trying to hide something. I had a feeling in my gut that something was wrong. I put my master key in the door and walked in.

The stench that hit me was horrific. It smelled like one of those silent-but-deadly rotten egg farts. It was pungent, and it made my eyes water.

I assessed the situation: no parents and no adults. Just a four-year-old boy and a six-year-old girl. As I continued to look around the room, I noticed something on the wall by the window. As I walked closer, the two kids bolted from the room, slamming the door behind them. More poop. More fucking poop. There were chunks of creamy poo on the wall, the curtain, and the air conditioner. On the floor were a pair of little boy undies with a mound of frosting-like poo in them. (It was such an odd texture!) I looked at the bed and saw a brown handprint on the mattress, of all places. The fucking kid had pulled back the sheets and wiped it on the mattress.

I stormed out of the room and found the two kids out in the lobby, clutching a large lumberjack-type woman. I had already asked this woman if she was in room 104, but she hadn't responded. I chalked it up to the fact that she didn't know how to count. As I looked around at the group of subhumans sitting in my lobby, I blew up. I went on a rant about turd terrorism and used the example of my dog being better trained than their filthy little mongrel children. I couldn't even believe the things coming out of my mouth. I was downright insulting and probably scarred the kids for life.

At that moment, Luther the maintenance guy walked in. He heard part of my rant and started laughing HYSTERICALLY at the term "turd terrorism." I almost started to laugh, too, but I was on a roll. I told the woman in 104 that she was going to take that mattress out to the dumpster tonight and pay for a new one -- and told her she was going to scrub the poop off the walls with bleach. Of course, she didn't agree with this idea, and stood up to me. She had at least a foot-and-a-half and a hundred and fifty pounds on me. I simply walked away and proceeded to call the police.

To sum up the rest of the night: the police came in and I had the entire redneck group escorted out of the hotel. They were all being rowdy, obnoxious, and drunk in addition to letting their children poop all over the hotel, so I had plenty of excuses. Some of the men wouldn't leave without a fight and some had to be handcuffed and wrestled to the ground. The children were crying and the lumberjack woman was yelling obscenities at me and the police. She, too, had to be handcuffed and hauled away.

I ended up having to formally report the incident and file a complaint, explaining the turd terrorism to the police and telling them that the pooping was really what started the whole incident. Luther the maintenance guy continued to giggle for the rest of the night whenever "turd terrorism" was brought up.

Perhaps we can all learn something from this incident. Turd terrorism can turn into something nasty. Law enforcement could get involved, and it could get violent. Mothers and fathers: make sure your child knows the dangers of turd terrorism. And just to be safe, train them as you would a German Shepherd, to ensure they know when and where to poop.

Double Flush (598) -- 06.12.2006

Those darned rednecks! Sure, some people might think you are just going with stereotyps, but I'm from near their breeding ground so I know exactly what you are talking about. I feel bad for you having to put up with all that. I probably would have called the police earlier to try to get rid of them, based on the pool poop and the drinking. You are a brave, brave person.

Now for the part no one likes. This story made me laugh much less than I eas expecting, but it's still strongly written and full of images.

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Clustersnarf (36) -- 06.12.2006

This is great. I just came back from the Gulf Coast and there were so many idiot rednecks and their un-ruly children. I refuse to get into public pools and hot tubs.

Good job calling the cops. I wish more people would have the gumption to put these idiots in their place.

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Double Flush (598) -- 06.12.2006

This is SO gonna get lamed, but I deserve it...

How far south/west did you go? Enough to watch people climb over the fence? Are there as many of them there as there are in NC?

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The Dumpster (2506) -- 06.12.2006

Some people just ain't hotelbroken.

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Great comment! +1 point
C Everett Poop (628) -- 06.12.2006

I'm from the epicenter of redneck, grit, hick production, southeast Virginia, so I know the people you are talking about. Everyone there has a mullet, smokes Marlboros, drives a primer gray Camaro or Charger and says "fuckin'-A" every sentence.I hate them just as much as you do. In fact, I never miss the Jerry Springer show so I can revel in the fact that they are still dildos and that I escaped that colostomy bag of American society.

Good story! Down with grits!

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Double Flush (598) -- 06.12.2006

See? CEP knows what I'm talkin' about too. And I appreciate him for that. As for the fence reference, I was referring to those of the Latino heritage. There seem to be lots of them southeast of here...

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Thunderbox (813) -- 06.12.2006

I love MotelShit`s stories, well written and very funny. Do you ever get any normal house trained guests down there? Maybe you should just close the pool permanently and deck the rooms out in plastic. Or perhaps only let folk register who have an IQ greater than their shirt collar size.

PINWORM (138) -- 06.12.2006

Man, I hate jobs that involve face to face contact with the public.

I feel for you. Those redneck riff raff types really make me think humanity deserves to go extinct. Rednecks are the main reason I pay extra money to NOT fly on Southwest Airlines. Last time I was on a Southwest flight, I actually saw a woman using Wal Mart shopping bags as luggage. Buy cheap, get cheap I say.

Would these hicks have been leagally liable for the damage to the pool and room? Could you have charged the clean up and repair to their credit cards? Did they HAVE credit cards?

The Dumpster (2506) -- 06.12.2006

Hey, wait a minute, MotelShit--I just realized you are talking about the Dumpster Family Reunion! Shame on you!

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Dave (11578) -- 06.12.2006

Pointless political flame war has been deleted.

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Double Flush (598) -- 06.12.2006

So, Dumpster, you're--nope. Not gonna say it. Anyway, I agree that either more decent people should be let in or that the rooms should be lined in plastic and have the pool closed, etc. Maybe I'm going a little too far. Then again, do I really want redneck poop all over my hotel?

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GottaGoGirl (2615) -- 06.12.2006

What a great story!

There is a picture of the wedding couple in this thread.

Grogan (98) -- 06.12.2006

A great story!

I see alot of people confusing rednecks with white trash. There is a diffrence, and both of those parties usually dont care much for the other. Or so has been my experiance growing up.

GottaGoGirl (2615) -- 06.12.2006

I just thought it was a geographical thing.

East of the Rockies = "Redneck"

West of the Rockies = "White Trash"

Location, location, location! But you say there's a difference? What are the distinctions between the castes?

Northy (107) -- 06.12.2006

Unlucky for you. Just imagine all the dirt in the pool from lack of bathing and also how many of them did Number 1's in the pool? Makes you shudder just thinking about it

The Shit Volcano (3737) -- 06.12.2006

This is a prime example of why we should sterilize stupid people.

I love your stories MotelShit! Funny as hell!

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That was a disaster in the making.
After all was said and done, I said, "I meant Cajun FOOD not Cajuns themselves!"
Unfortunately, by that point she'd already told Rita.

Logjam (2406) -- 06.12.2006

“Pointless political flame war has been deleted.”

Gees, Dave, this was no flame war. The distinguished gentleman from California, C. Everett Poop, and I were engaged in a factual debate, and had hurled no insults at one another. We were being perfect models of civility. I don’t understand why if we can talk here about what airlines rednecks frequent, what they use as luggage, and even go on record with the Naziesque assertion that the country would be better off if they were all dead or at least sterilized, that we can’t discuss their voting habits.

wonderpance (572) -- 06.12.2006

i think it's great that you actually used the term "turd terrorism" when talking to the police and stuff. i don't know if i could say it in a serious situation without cracking up.

great story! the first thing i thought of when you mentioned that you work at a hotel was the Louie Anderson story, so i checked, and sure enough, you're the one who wrote it! that was a great one too. you all should check it out.

Triple-G, man, that picture's makin' the rounds now, isn't it? if you didn't link to it, i was going to.
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daphne (3514) -- 06.12.2006

When we drove out here, the family, our four cats, and Gator the bulldog, we received pats on the back from hotel staff as to the politeness our children exhibited and the fact that Gator never barked at people walking by and that we had no pet messes in the rooms. I read this and do wonder how people are raised. But, then again, there are pockets of society in this country where a hotel is a "big outing", and people simply don't have social skills or feel the need to control their kids.

The weird thing is that one family like that can live next to another family that doesn't earn a lot of money but will take serious pride in how they behave and how their children behave in public. I saw this in the south when we lived in Louisiana and traveled quite a bit.

In seriousness, the most "rednecks" I saw were in Kentucky. But, they were kind of fun. No poop flingers.

In defense of rednecks, also, I think there is a differenciation between trailer trash and rednecks.

Incidentally, I'm a bunnyhugger, and we're like rednecks with sensitivity training.


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Slim Jim Junkie (not verified) -- 06.12.2006

I've known plenty of rednecks that are not the average retards that get into every redneck story.

Why does it seem like the biggest losers of redneckdom always make the stories? I guess the average redneck is smart enough not to get in trouble, and ends up blending into the crowd.

Great comment! +1 point
C Everett Poop (628) -- 06.12.2006

"The distinguished gentleman from California"

That's me.

CEP

The Dumpster (2506) -- 06.12.2006

Or "the remains of the same"?

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Chuck (284) -- 06.12.2006

Nashville branch of the Redneck, er, Appalachian-American Observation Society is reporting. There is a convenience store around the corner. Primer coated, beat up car or truck with family dad in do-rag, mom and dirty face kids in tow. Maybe the family dog is along for the ride. The dad strolls out of the car, not wearing a shirt, proceeds inside to buy cigarettes. Mind you, he walked out his home front door without a shirt and said to himself, "Wow, do I look great in this wardrobe choice." Second, it took the whole family to ride along for one purchase.

Shatty Cake (135) -- 06.12.2006

My favorite part of this all-around excellent story is:

On the floor were a pair of little boy undies with a mound of frosting-like poo in them. (It was such an odd texture!)

The fact that you took the time to investigate the undies, and could remember them so clearly, and could write about them so matter-of-factly and with such a vivid metaphor, is hilarious!

Lame comment! -1 point
Double Flush (598) -- 06.12.2006

Yup, there's a difference in hardcore rednecks and trailer trash, but there are some similarities too. I tink they both need to be sterilized so they won't reproduce and clog up our hotels and create situatiojs like these. Yeah, I said it. At least most people I know try to act decent and leave the room as it was when they got there, meaning sans-poop, curtains and pictures still on the wall, shades still on the lamps, etc.

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sharty mcfly (211) -- 06.12.2006

one main differentiation. fuckin a' is new jersey for indeed last i checked. but rednecks are everywhere. always and forever.

Poop Shooter (597) -- 06.12.2006

Dang, I've got to stay intune with the stories more. Rednecks are a pain in the butt, especially when they are the super White-Trash Rednecks from wherever. Your story reminds me of the brother in Lampoons Christmas movie with Chevy Chase. His brother was a rednecky-trashy type. Great story and I can picture you explaining turd terrorism to the cops. I'm surprised they didn't smack you for being silly. Good deal though.

Say, what did your bosses ever say about you getting half the hotel booted out?


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Poop Shooter!

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Double Flush (598) -- 06.12.2006

I'm not even sure how to say how glad I am that Raleigh has a much lower redneck concentration.

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daphne (3514) -- 06.13.2006

Just remember people...without trailer trash or rednecks, the aliens will only have "us" to abduct.......
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Double Flush (598) -- 06.13.2006

Yes, daphne, and I'm fine with that so long as Raleigh keeps its low concentration limited to the bums you meet along certain city roads.

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GottaGoGirl (2615) -- 06.13.2006

Grogan wrote: "...
I see alot of people confusing rednecks with white trash. There is a diffrence, and both of those parties usually dont care much for the other..."

Grogan still hasn't answered. What IS the difference between a Redneck and White Trash? I thought my Redneck predecessors just moved West, thereby making the lineage White Trash.

Are you saying I might be from *gasp* mixed blood? RedTrash? WhiteNecks?

Although... maybe that will help my kids get into college.

Lame comment! -1 point
Double Flush (598) -- 06.13.2006

LOL @ college thing. There are lots of special financial aid programs for everyone except my breed, it seems. So there's probably a chance that you could use that to your advantage.

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The Dumpster (2506) -- 06.13.2006

Yeah--I graduated Oh Thank the Laude!

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Gaseous G. (not verified) -- 06.13.2006

Another good one, MS. I'm skeeved on motels now.

Lame comment! -1 point
Double Flush (598) -- 06.13.2006

Dumpster, I am not questioning your age, but I've noticed that lots has changed in the one year I have been here at NCSU. Maybe it's just a year for change. Maybe it's always like this. I don't know. Anyway, there are options galore if you ain't white with parents with jobs.

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The Dumpster (2506) -- 06.13.2006

DF writes, "there are options galore if you ain't white with parents with jobs."

Good. I've been looking for a reason to disown Little Dumpster.

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Double Flush (598) -- 06.13.2006

Come on, man, don't do that to him. Or at least wait until he gets through college at least part of the way. Believe me, there is still stuff you can get regardless of who you are. There is a plethora of scholarship options, mostly essay contests (and I'm a sorry writer!), plus grants and loans you can apply for. By the time Little Dumpster gets to college, there'll be even more, so no need to worry.

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In The Bushes (111) -- 06.13.2006

Well, it's not just rednecks who have pooping problems. I have recently heard from two of my schoolteacher friends about their students just pooping and peeing right there in their classrooms. One of them teaches first grade, which is bad enough, but the other one teaches fourth! I don't know what's coming of this world.

Anyway, that sounds like a horrendous experience. I don't think anyone is paid enough to deal with that kind of crap!

Lame comment! -1 point
Double Flush (598) -- 06.13.2006

I've heard myself of kids peeing right there in the room after not being allowed to leave and use the toilet, just because some kids have absolutely no respect anymore. I'm almost worried about what will come of the world when these kids grow up.

Also, in middle school, guys would get impatient waiting for a urinal and would go in the sinks or, more commonly, try to hit the drain in the middle of the floor. In full view of all the other guys, too, mind you. I'd simply wait for a urinal while [namelss] and [unnamed] would whip it out and hit the drain.

I agree that teachers are underpaid. They are paid so little, yet they have to put up with some of the worst things sometimes. I'm completely sure I don't have the patience to work at a school, other than being a network administrator for a county school system or something.

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Pipe Nightmare (68) -- 06.13.2006

These are the definitions of "redneck" and "white trash" as I understand them:

Redneck - a caucasian that is very proud to be a caucasian.

White trash - a caucasian that would rather be something other than a caucasian.

So if you're talking about rednecks, you're talking about someone that you would most likely run into at a Nascar event. If you're talking about white trash, on the other hand, you could probably find some of them at your local low-rider festival, showing off their hydraulics.

I'm still interested in seeing Grogan's definitions of the two.

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Double Flush (598) -- 06.13.2006

Being a redneck simply means "a glorious absence of sophistication" --quoth Jeff Foxworthy. As for white trash, I imagine your tyoical trailer trash, hounds and kids running rampant, beer cans all over, etc. However, having "a home that is mobile and 14 cars that aren't" (Foxworthy) would be redneck.

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MotelShit (47) -- 06.13.2006

Okay - I apologize for interchanging the terms "redneck" and "white trash". I am aware that there is a difference...in Minnesota we use them to mean the same thing. The family at the hotel falls under the "white trash" category. I hate white trash. I don't even mind rednecks. Rednecks are usually polite and kind,lack some sophistication yet still have decent manners (for the most part)...but I can deal with that. I can't deal with white trash.

Great comment! +2 points
Grogan (98) -- 06.13.2006

Sorry for the delay in my response.

MotelShit put it best "Rednecks are usually polite and kind,lack some sophistication yet still have DECENT manners"--quoth Jeff Foxworthy

Granted this is not always true, more often than not you will find that Rednecks work pretty hard, try and raise a family as well as they can. Tend to drink to much, get abit rowdy side on the weekends. Rednecks often I find are like siblings, you may not get along with your neighboor but in bad times offer to help when and where you can especialy in emergencys.

White-Trash usually leech off of society, tend to work as little as possible if at all. More often than not they usually dont help their neighboors (there are expetions to this of course as in any genrelization[sp]).

I myself grew up in a redneck town, and became a redneck due to my enviorment, and for the most part everywhere else I've been thats been 'redneck' have gotten along great with people. The 'White Trash' I have never gotten along with because they generally are takers and users.

The term 'Redneck' comes from the fact that farmers and the lower working class wore short sleeved shirts while out in the fields, allowing them to give their neck all the sun, not to disimilar from 'Farmers tan'. "Farmers Tan' for those who dont know is where you work outside often in a short sleeved shirt so your arms, neck, and face are tan. But your torso is still pretty dang white.

If your stuck on the side of the road with a car problem, chances are pretty high its going to be a 'redneck' who stops and helps. Their apperance may not always be what people from the city or suburbia would find appealing, however they are usually dressed more functionaly.

At first glance you would be hard pressed to find out if someone is 'white trash' or 'redneck' however in a short ammount of time you will gauge what they are. Some say they are 'rednecks' but just want to be cool ;)

Grogan (98) -- 06.13.2006

I think this also makes what IM trying to say a little more straight forward

http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1526507

Great comment! +2 points
daphne (3514) -- 06.13.2006

Grogan, I could not agree with you more. I have redneck friends, and they are thy type who will answer the phone at 3 AM when you're on the other end and want to know a good place to bury a dead body who will say, "Let me get my shovel and help you git-r'done." Rednecks will give you the shirt off their backs and share their last beer. Simple people? Maybe. But sure as hell decent in many ways.

White or "trailer" trash will steal your dearly-departed gramma's wedding rings off your bedroom nightstand to trade in for 2 cases of Nighttrain and then blame it on the dog.


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Grogan (98) -- 06.13.2006

Ooops.. I ment to say Double Flush put it best with the quote from Jeff Foxworthy. I am sorry about that.

Great comment! +1 point
Chuck (284) -- 06.13.2006

Redneck: Music of Hank Williams, Jr. , Merle Haggard, Johnny Cash,...

White Trash: Limp Bizkit

craperjack (19) -- 06.13.2006

DAMN REDNECKS! I feel very sorry for you and I would have called the police a long time ago about the commotion before turd terroisim started thats.

Double Flush (598) -- 06.13.2006

Thanks Grogan. Once again I've been sucked into everything2 and spent lots of time there until i HAD to give it up and go do something else.

My definition is from the king of rednecks himself. Can't go wrong with that!

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daphne (3514) -- 06.13.2006

Craperjack, if hotels and motels call the police when people start trouble without letting them have a chance to calm themselves down, then their business would plummet. The concept that the customer is always right may suck balls, but it's in the business's best interest to take a little shit (no pun intended) before they ask a guest to leave.

I would think, craperjack, that the make or break of asking a guest to leave early on would be how many other guests complained.

I'm with you, though. If I had a hotel, I would have been watching them like a hawk!


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The Dumpster (2506) -- 06.13.2006

We have a discussion going on the forums about "You know you're a redneck when...." I can get away with initiating such a discussion, because I am basically a redneck myself (although probably the only one ever to join the Metropolitan Opera Guild--I listen to "Turandot" while I clean the shotguns).

Anyway, the term I am somewhat bothered by is "white trash." Anybody who came on here talking about "black trash," or "asian trash" would be flamed out of existence. Why is it still all right to pick on white people as a race?

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KeepOnCrappin (550) -- 06.13.2006

TD, its like why can black people call themselves Nig*ers but when a white person says it they get shot.

Thank god you called the cops. I know so many people that would not call the cops and would clean it themselves while the rednecks watched. Personally, while I read this, I figured that would be what was going to happen.

You shouldn't have told them to get out of the pool, and you should have made the kid come and get the paper towels, and you should have called the kid back and tell them to give them their room number

Isn't it illeagal to rent a room if you're under 18/21/25? And the renter always has to be there while the room is occupied?

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Lame comment! -1 point
Double Flush (598) -- 06.14.2006

Sorry, but I find it ridiculous that white people(cr*ckers/h*nkys) can't call an Asian a ch*nk or a black dude a ni**er or a Mexican a be*ner or a w*tback, yet any other races can let slurs fly. It's ridiculous. A black guy can call me a cracker, but one foul word out of my mouth and I get beat up or shot. We have a serious problem here.

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Um, yeah. My sig. So, about that... I'm not doing one this week.

GottaGoGirl (2615) -- 06.14.2006

Okay, Grogan, thanks! That does make sense to me, and now I know that I've met some of each of those types of people.

Turns out I DOO have BOTH kinds in my family nut-tree, but thankfully, the branch that's the white trash are black sheep. Whew!

Great comment! +1 point
wonderpance (572) -- 06.14.2006

i'd like to suggest that if anyone wants to discuss this whole racial slur thing further, please take it to the flames or off-topic section of the forums. that has nothing to do with this story.

thanks!
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i love poop.

Thunderbox (813) -- 06.14.2006

Lighten up wonderpance, these guys are mainly just trying to accurately describe the differences between 2 distinct sub-species of whitey. No malice meant.

Great comment! +1 point
wonderpance (572) -- 06.14.2006

i am lightened up! i'm just saying that there's a place for these kinds of discussions. the redneck vs. white trash is fitting here, because it relates to the story. but people are starting to venture into another kind of territory, with the "why can't i call asians 'chinks'?" type comments. and it's not that i even have a problem with that debate (i'll probably even add my thoughts if it does end up in the forums), i just don't think it belongs here.

dig?

(also, if i'm wrong in making this suggestion, i'm sure i'll be corrected. but i'm pretty much never wrong.)
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i love poop.

Great comment! +1 point
MotelShit (47) -- 06.14.2006

Great. A big ol' racial slur war going on. When I used the terms white trash and rednecks I was just generalizing for the purpose of imagery. Good Lord.

Lame comment! -1 point
Double Flush (598) -- 06.14.2006

That was my own rant, Miss Pance, and I realize it was off topic. I just don't have the inhibition it takes to shut up when I need to. Perhaps I shall flame the flaming forum sometime next time I feel fed up.

As far as the redneck/white trash deal goes, I could tell the difference if they were to be near me, but I couldn't describe them here. And so goes the story of my life... but I digress. Hopefully someone can set it straight in simple terms once and for all.

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Um, yeah. My sig. So, about that... I'm not doing one this week.

craperjack (19) -- 06.15.2006

Double flush and keepone crappin I think that a race only likes to be called an offensive name only if that person is in that same race like if a black person came up to another black person and said "hello nigger" than the other black person can say the same thing because they are in the same race but if a black person called a white person white trash than the white guy has a right to be angry because the black guy was offending the white guy and vise versa see what I mean? But I geuss some races get more offended than others.

Lame comment! -1 point
Double Flush (598) -- 06.15.2006

Well, it's more like this. If you piss off a black guy, and he shouts something like "DAMN CRACKER!" you just have to grin and bear it. If he hears you mention the word "nigger" in any context, he'll "busta cap in yo' ass" and that's pretty much why all you white guys can;t say it. Hmm? Am I right? Who can back me up on this?

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So... uhh... erm.... POOP!!!

Great comment! +2 points
Logjam (2406) -- 06.15.2006

Forgive me wonderpance and others, but I just can't keep myself from responding to DF's call for assistance. The phenomenon that you and others above describe is not restricted to race. Any group (including, by the way, PoopReporters) hear and respond differently to criticism by members within the group than they do to criticism by people outside the group. This makes perfect sense. If a stranger says to me “Fuck you, asshole” I take it quite differently than if the same thing is said to me by a poker buddy. So of course “nigger” or “cracker” are interpreted very differently depending on who says it to whom. There is no evidence I know of that Blacks in this country are more sensitive than other groups to being called names by outsiders. But even if they were, it would be understandable given their treatment historically and the continued discrimination they face.

To your specific example, the next time a black calls you a damn cracker, tell him or her that you find it offensive. You don’t have to "grin and bear it" (unless you’re a weak-kneed, chicken shit, damn cracker.) But be honest. Has this ever happened to you?

wonderpance (572) -- 06.15.2006

fine! nobody ever listens to me!

i think you make a good point, logjam. i've also read or heard somewhere someone giving the argument that when people (any group of people, be it blacks, gays, women, whatever) take offensive words and use it on themselves, it's like taking the word away from the offenders and owning it for themselves. sort of like it's taking away the pleasure some people get by calling gay people fags, for example. if they call themselves fags, then it's like, "well, now what am i supposed to call them??"

does that make any sense at all? i'm all sleepy, so i don't think i told it right. maybe if someone understands what i'm trying to say, they can explain it better.
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i love poop.

Grogan (98) -- 06.15.2006

Im at my weekly poker game last night when the subject of Poop came up. I play with a diverse group of players. The subject then turned to Trailer Trash vs Redneck. We have a Police Officer that plays with us and I am trying to get him to write this story he told last night on here. It was a call in Pierce County where he and another officer had to dodge a crazy trailer trash type person high on something throwing feces at them. In person he is a great story teller, and this had the entire table laughing so hard we had to stop playing poker to compose ourselves.

Great comment!
Frank Turd (not verified) -- 06.15.2006

I live up to my name and always call a spade a spade.

Thunderbox (813) -- 06.15.2006

This is getting interesting. On the other side of the Atlantic we have the equivalent of rednecks, which are kind of country yokels (mainly Welsh, Irish or from northern Scotland and the Islands). Again, they tend to be decent folk, they just don`t like outsiders and will never really consider them part of the community even if they`ve been there for decades. They can be a bit inbred, and don`t care for news outside their locality. Our equivalent of white trash is growing. It used to just be what are called tinkers, potters, travellers, gypsies and the like (each area has a different name for them)who would drive around the country and park up with trailers where they wanted with no permission and leave the place like a tip. Stealing in the area went up dramatically. Your white trash seem to stick in one place.

GottaGoGirl (2615) -- 06.15.2006

I think this is all still within the realm of the original story, as it describes a group of a certain type, who, travelling en masse brought their own community standards to a place that has different standards than they.

Logjam and pance make good points, and I very much like Thunderbox's Continental view. I have read many a novel set in Europe, and if the authors are ANY good at their research, I would say that what Thunderbox said about cultural differences within those groups is quite accurate.

That puts the American versions into perspective, for me.

Lame comment! -1 point
Double Flush (598) -- 06.15.2006

Sorry, GGG, I disagree with you. While the story mentions rednecks, I think we've taken it a bit too far derailed this topic. What do you say we take it to the forums where we can really let loose?

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So... uhh... erm.... POOP!!!

Fecal Follies (167) -- 06.16.2006

*whistles loudly* Hey, Chuck!

"Nashville branch of the Redneck, er, Appalachian-American Observation Society is reporting."

That makes me the "Redneck Mountains of Tennessee branch", and yes I've called it that as long as I've lived here. "No I don't live in the 'Tourist Mountains' (Gatlinburg), I live in the 'Redneck Mountains' - yeah. That one. Uh huh. Between Nashville and Chattanooga."

*giggles*

And I'll be in Nashvegas next Saturday for the "Counterparts: A Tribute to Rush" show. I haven't seen anything Poop-Report worthy at prior shows but have it in the back of my mind to 'watch for Turd Terrorism at 12th & Porter' *wink*

Poop Border Agent (9) -- 06.16.2006

The room 104 incident sounded as messy as the chainsaw/shower scene from Scarface. No saving that mattress. And that wedding party wound have been better served at a Jellystone Camping Park with plenty of hoses.


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The Dumpster (2506) -- 06.16.2006

Since I started this debate, I will take responsibility for moving it to the forums. See "Calling a spade a spade" in the Off-Topic forum.

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Eaglenation (8) -- 07.01.2006

Okay, here is the problem. You worked a saturday night. I myself, used to work in the hotel business, and I used to work the night audit part time on the weekends. Dude, there is no amount of money now, that would make it worth being a Manager on Duty at a hotel over a weekend. You deal with the lowest of sub-human life forms. One would think that the parents would have some class, but one once thought the Earth was flat too. The lesson to be learned here is simple. Don't work weekends at a hotel. And if that is unavoidable, don't work for a hotel.

Great comment! +1 point
GottaGoGirl (2615) -- 08.09.2006

This thread always interested me because of all the different opinions and connotations of terms. I've been reading a novel by Dorothea Benton Frank, who grew up in the South Carolina "Lowcountry". Here's what she has to say about the subtle distinctions:

"True southerners were pickled from birth in our ancestral marinades of charm and grace. Money and possessions had little to do with personal conduct. Southerners of every race and creed held each other to a higher standard of behavior. And we understood the nuances that separated 'good old boys', 'bubbas', and 'rednecks'". (emphasis GGG's)

"Good old boys were the most traditional. They polished their Weejuns, monogrammed their shirts, smelled good, and held your door open. They were more worldly, could mix cocktails, and may have gone to graduate school." (GGG believes this may describe Dumpster to a large degree.)

"Bubbas might have a truck for no particular reason, but they were nice guys who didn't get a lot of exercise, might get caught drinking beer for breakfast, and never walked away from a manly challenge."

"Rednecks never ate pork chops or chicken with anything but their hands, trained their Heinz 57 dogs to bite, occasionally hit their wives, used their trucks like a minivan to haul the kids around to tractor pulls, and provoked the manly challenges." --from The Isle Of Palms by D.B.F.

I believe the catagory of "Bubba" is a level we missed. From Miss Frank's ranking, I would conclude that "White Trash" may indeed rank beneath "Redneck".
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Fecal Matters.

The Dumpster (2506) -- 08.09.2006

GGG is somebody for whom Dumpster would gladly hold a door open AND mix a cocktail.

The only thing I would add is that all three types of Southern male freely associate with each other, to a point. Thus, I have been known to sit on the tailgate of a pickup truck down by the river in my undershirt drinking a beer with my redneck friend, Talmadge. But then I go back to my world and he (Heaven forfend) goes back to his. I own guns because I want to. Talmadge owns guns because he needs to.

Bunga Din (1239) -- 08.09.2006

Why does Talmadge NEED guns? What or who is a specific threat to him?

The Dumpster (2506) -- 08.09.2006

Bunga, down here where I come from, "he needed killing" is recognized as a valid legal defense.

I hope that explains it.

GottaGoGirl (2615) -- 08.09.2006

"...Bunga, down here where I come from, "he needed killing" is recognized as a valid legal defense..."

*Rolling on floor, laughing* I'll have a Cosmopolitan, thank you, Dumpie.

The Dumpster (2506) -- 08.09.2006

I didn't know you were a "Cosmo Girl," GGG. But the mention of my friend Talmadge reminds me of two or three really funny poop stories. Maybe one day, after JOAP II is a reality, they can be told....

Redkor (5) -- 08.29.2006

Sounds like entitlemoo couldn't be bothered to put down her drink and watch her pweshus spawn.

I don't hate children, but I get really pissed at the parents who allow their kids to be little asshats.

Lame comment! -1 point
turd turdgutson (112) -- 08.30.2006

This story lost all credibility right around the time MotelShit claims to have made her 'turd terrorism' remark, followed by the Redneck vs Police brawl.
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"Uugggghh...nnnrrrrAAaaaaarrrgg...*splash*...aaaahh."

Anomalous Coward (690) -- 08.30.2006

I rarely am serious, but this is one time that I am. I know the people you are talking about. It has nothing to do with location, race or even rednecks per se. It has to do with thoughtless self centered sons of bitches who seem to think that if they wish to do something, that alone gives them the God-given right to do it. They do not consider others, their desires, needs or feelings, just themselves. I generally find that these types are endowed with an overdeveloped sense of entitlement. They feel the world owes them everything and they need return nothing. The greatest frustration here is the fact that these assholes will even out-survive cockoaches in the event of a catastrophic incident. Sorry to be so negative, but assholes like that just burn my backside.

GottaGoGirl (2615) -- 09.03.2006

*Applause*

Oh, and Redkor, I LOVE your term "entitlemoo". Fantastic word!
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"...I use public toilets and piss on the seat...I'm an asshole..."--Denis Leary. Yes, Turdgutson, I know.

Boomerang (46) -- 10.03.2006

I'm an Australian, so I've never came face to face with a red neck, but now I'm happy I havn't. Your description of the child who crapped in the pool = the way he laughed - made me feel your anger for him. Now I really don't like children.

Good story though.

Shit Machine (8) -- 12.18.2006

I can only imagine having to work a job like that . Ugh. Great way to write it al out thought. I would have been furious...I see trash like that with kids they let run loose all the time.

werewolf poopin... (101) -- 12.23.2006

Wow. Seeing what goes on at hotels reminds me of why I hate going to them so much. One time I went to a hotel with a friend, and one morning he came out of his room and told me about how he found poop in his bed! I would write a poopreport about it, but since I didn't personally experience it, it's not my place to write about it...

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...and they all lived crappily ever after!

healthy 1 (1423) -- 12.23.2006

If your children think that the place to poop is the swimming pool, you might be a redneck.

If you consider Jack Daniels a softdrink, you might be a redneck.

Worst of all. If someone asks you where the bathroom is, and your reply is "never been there" ,then you probably are a redneck.

I fully enjoyed this story MS. It sounds like you had one hell of a bad night that night.
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"-55F, a new record low? Nope, thermometer went bad. Looks like -50F still stands"

Jolie (not verified) -- 12.23.2006

I worked in a 100-room motel as a desk clerk for the four years I was in college. The owner was an older, semi-retired man with his wife who believed in accountability. When you signed the room ledger you were held responsible. When there were disputes about excessive messiness and damage, police were called.

There was just one room, however, that was problemmatic. It was the unisex bathroom that was located down the hall between the office and swimming pool. It doubled as the toilet for the staff such as myself and guests. There was just one regular sized toilet and sink.

The intent was that people would use it while in the lobby and waiting for rides, if they had checked out of their room and needed to use the bathroom while waiting for their taxi, or if they had to wait for a few minutes while checking in because their room had to be made up.

What was surprising to me was that guests would use it for large dumps that they knew wouldn't pass through the piping of their individual rooms, children as young as two or three were being allowed to go in inattended and pee over the seat while their parents sat in the lobby and read newspapers, and we had several cases where I would get complaints that little kids that were afraid to sit farther back on the seat, would poop at the very front of the stool and then slide their unwiped butt over the front of the seat, leaving a "souvenir" for the next user. Also, the flusher received very little use.

Guests, often adults visiting the city on business trips, would be repulsed when they opened the door and often insist that they be able to use the bathroom I used. Sorry, but that was it! All, I could do was call housekeeping and ask one of the maids to prioritize it!

As for me, I always made sure I had my stool before I left my apartment and I would go next door on my lunch break to pee. And when I had an emergency, I would just help myself to a vacant room and the clean toilets that we offered.

To me it doesn't matter what terms or slurs you want to use about people, but when there's no accountability or, as my manager called it, "ownership", you can expect people to behave at their worst. How that can be fixed, I don't know, but my grandmother tels stories of how pay toilets used to be used to help "screen" users and at least help recoup some of the maintenance costs.

The Big Wiper (2244) -- 12.23.2006

Very interesting sociological comments, Jolie. I had never considered the concept of pay toilets as screening devices. But if you don't have the price of admission, you don't get in, and that probably prevents at least some forms of facility abuse.

Recto Magnifico (70) -- 12.23.2006

I didn't really read through all the comments above, because I was distracted by the number of "lame comments" Double Flush got. Does anyone know if a record was set here? I mean, it's kind of impressive that you can get "lamed" so many times in one series of posts... and still be allowed to post more comments! Now that's tolerant!
(I do think someone was "laming" the posts on the basis of a personal agenda, though, because some of them were kind of funny.)

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Livin' La Vida Caca!

GottaGoGirl (2615) -- 12.24.2006

Yeah, but at least 2 people have to agree that a comment is lame (or great). One mod can't make it "lame" (or "great") by themself. Not all of DF's comments were lamed, but he did go through a refining process earlier this year. :)

AJ0544 (1) -- 01.13.2007

HOW DID THIS GET ON THE REDNECK SUBJECT??? FIRST OFF, I AM AS BIG OF A REDNECK AS YOU CAN GET, ALL BE IT I DON'T HAVE A PRIMER GRAY CAMERO, IT IS A WHITE TRANS AM! BUT I HAVE NEVER SHIT MYSELF NOR WOULD MY KIDS EVER DO ANY OF THAT IN PUBLIC. YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING DOWN REDNECKS, AND YOU ALL BELONG TO OR AT LEAST READ A BLOG ABOUT SHIT!!! COME ON!!

daphne (3514) -- 01.13.2007

Hey, executives shit, too. And know how to turn off allcaps. And that is humor. Do not kick my ass or attempt to run over me with that white Trans Am otherwise known as the "BubbaMobile".

I am teasing you.


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www.daphneszoo.com

Vikki (not verified) -- 02.08.2007

Between my junior and senior year in college, I worked at a large hotel that hosted a national convention of college sorority girls. It was a national governing group for a variety of sororities and a couple thousand girls attended from all over the country. Our manager thought it was great to have all these student leaders and future leaders of our country in our ballrooms and various meeting rooms.

Nothing could have been further from the truth. The girls were party animals and had some of the worst habits you would find. I was on break and in a stall taking a shit when I overheard several girls who had just come from a reception in the ballrom complain about our bathrooms (some of the cleanest in the city, I might add!) because they had to wait in line for a stall (too bad--all 25 were in use!, they didn't have an ass gasket in the stall to put on the seat (we never had them--toilet paper will serve the same objective!), I asked two who were standing waiting for a stall to put out their cigarettes (a municipal ordinance) and they just looked down at me as a uniformed employee who was below telling them what to do. On the second day, again I was on break and leaving my stall when a couple of them who were waiting in line complained about a hot water faucet which was leaking. One had the adacity to look at my name tag, call me by name and point me to a trash can which was overflowing. They were very condescending when I told them I wasn't housekeeping, but I would call it in. I was washing my hands and the girl waiting told the girl on the stool to use two liners of toilet paper on the seat because I was a minority. That night I was working the desk when their bus came back from a bar-hopping excursion and I had to call the police because they insisted parking it illegally. Actually one of their members had driven them back to our hotel because the professional driver had partied with them and had too many. I called the police and loved every minute of the investigation that was done.

As a group over a period of three days they basically trashed our public bathrooms on the ballroom and convention center floors. Many of them left stalls unflushed and paper strown about. Some squatted and peed right over the seats. Sanitary napkins were not disposed of properly. Although I didn't go to college like they did, from the examples they gave and the way they treated our staff, I consider myself lucky. We would have loved to have had such ******* confined to Room 104.

AfroButtGirl (not verified) -- 02.22.2007

Holy shit! Fucking rednecks! Who smears poop on the wall? And what about the pregnant drunk teenagers! I would have just kicked them out on general principles (i.e, WOULD YOU LIKE SOME CONDOMS???) but I can't believe a kid would just shit himself in the pool! Ewww!!!!! Where were their fat hillbilly parents? DUDE!

Hamster (580) -- 08.17.2007

Whether I could say I actually enjoyed this story - or the subsequent posts - is debatable! But it has certainly been interesting and educational. We Brits have more than our share of "white trash", and I don't agree with Thunderbox about where they come from - you'll find them in any city housing estate!!

The Thunderous ... (660) -- 08.17.2007

It never ceases to amaze me BUT I wonder how these people live in their own home/trailer. Would these kids smear their poo on the walls in their own home? Sadly, probably! I work in a casino so I see how people leave common areas so I am sure the hotel rooms are far worse. I dont think it is just limited to the rednecks OR as some people say white trash. I would say this happens at ALL levels unfortunately. I do know one thing MANNERS have gone out the window LONG ago.
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SeanM (not verified) -- 11.10.2007

"White trash" is a pretty racist and offensive term, jerk.

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