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Pre-Elimination Behavior in Dogs: A Scientific Treatise

Posted 09.26.2001 by Chip Brown (201)

I have a 2 year old springer spaniel named The Lil' Poopin' Genius (LPG). He will not poop in my yard, so I have to walk him in the park behind our house several times each day. As a responsible pet owner, I always bring a little plastic bag and pick up his precious piles.

As a budding young scatologist I enjoy these moments of scientific discovery as I attempt to understand dog poopin behavior.

I've become intruiged by LPG's "pre-elimination behaviors". I adopted LPG only 6 months ago and I have begun to notice changes in his behavior. I got the dog in February and I noticed that he always pooped uphill against a snowbank. Obviously, as spring time came along and the snowbanks melted, he had to change his behavior.

He now poops like a "normal" dog on level ground. He used to get right to business sniffing the ground then dropping his ass into position. But over the past few months he's taken on the habit of circling before he drops his load. At first he'd only make one rotation. But now he turns several times often changing direction before poopin!

I am interested in finding out if he is communicating with me in some way. When honey bees find a new nectar source, they return to the hive and dance by rotating their body. Scientists have determined that they are communicating the location of the nectar source to other bees through this dance.

Could LPG be dancing for me? Does the direction that he faces upon fecal release, the number of rotations, and/or the direction of rotation indicate some type of fecal communication?

Anybody else experience this? I asked a vet and he knew nothing of it. I would like to get a college degree doing this type of research. Where can I get funding for this research? What could LPG be telling me? Should I be afraid?

-- Chip Brown

Editor's note: Chip first posted this in the PoopReport forums. See what others have had to say about it there.

doniker (1517) -- 09.26.2001

If aliens on another planet are watching people on earth following around there dogs and picking up their crap, the aliens will think the dogs are the masters and people are the slaves. I just pour powdered limestone over my dog's pile, the lime drys up the poop and when it rains it soaks into the ground and the lawn stays nice and green!! poop = fertilizer.

Mr. Hypocrite (not verified) -- 11.06.2002

My wife and I have pondered this very same question. Our boy Frizbee spins clockwise and counter-clockwise before he get's down to it. I know that he marks his teritory with urine and sniffs around to find other dog's urine to mark over. So what is the significance of where he poops? Why here and not there? Plus he ALWAYS has to urinate within minutes after a poop. I call this the "Post-Poop Pee." We stay up nights thinking about this.

The Shit Volcano (3652) -- 10.06.2004

My dog Reedy does the same thing. He has a whole dance that he does before taking a shit while on the leash. He turns around three times, then ducks his butt up and down several times. This done, he slowly squats down in the dog poo position, stretches out his neck, and looks in agony at the sky. Then he shits.

DungDaddy (1364) -- 09.15.2006

Yes, the dog is trying to communicate with you. He wants to say, "Could you look away for just a moment whilst I shit?"

Elaine (not verified) -- 02.17.2008

I have been wondering why my Lapsa-poo rotates clockwise every time before he poops. I think the rotation triggers his brain neurologically and thus the urge and ability to poop.

prarie doggin (1555) -- 02.17.2008

I'm pretty sure rotation just before lying down has something to do with instincts to tamp down the grass when they were wild. It is possible that (being territorial) they are trying to create a similar clearing so that their scat marker will be very visible to other dogs infringing on their turf.

baron von crapalot (444) -- 02.17.2008


_our dog is shameless, he shits anywhere and anyhow, however, I feel that the whole rotation thing, is, indeed to make sure that 'ground zero' is a secure place to poop..... lets face it, you wouldnt poop knowing that the loo seat was scruffy!______
i just cant work this one out????

prarie doggin (1555) -- 02.17.2008

Alright BVC, I confess. I do step on to the toilet seat and do a few rotations, but I never meant to harm anyone. Let this be our own little secret.

baron von crapalot (444) -- 02.20.2008


_further to PD's comment, Its nothing to be ashamed of, just be careful that you don't fall in, or worse(?) off.______
i just cant work this one out????

prarie doggin (1555) -- 02.20.2008

Thank you. I've got good balance. Well gotta go and lick my ass clean now.

baron von crapalot (444) -- 02.20.2008


__DAMN!! do you need any help? I've gotta few days I can spare.

_____
like a constipated accountant- I worked it out with a pencil.

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