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Shameless In Saigon

Posted 10.29.2003 by The Big Wiper (2245)
Several years ago, I was visiting relatives in my hometown and ran into an older friend of the family. I'll call him Jim because he is a tall, gangly fellow who has always reminded me of Jimmy Stewart. Jim had served in Vietnam and managed to return safely, get married and settle down with the kids.

One evening at a party we were discussing those turbulent years, and I asked him what living was like over there on a daily basis. He recounted a variety of experiences from the food to the striking Vietnamese women, but one of the most interesting and, yes, even amusing, things he revealed were the outrageous bathroom facilities set up for the soldiers to use.

From what I gathered, it was the only facility available in the area he was stationed, and, in PoopReport terms, pretty much stretched the limits of Shamelessness for most of the soldiers. Jim said that it consisted of a row of holes on a bench-like structure -- not unlike an old-fashioned outhouse might have featured -- but with a metal trough running along underneath to catch the turds and the piss. There were no partitions between the holes, nor were their any doors. Pretty spartan, so far.

The kicker, however, was that this facility opened out onto one of the streets of Saigon at a peculiar angle, so that it was possible for all passersby of both genders to get an eyeful of America's best and bravest doing their patriotic doodie, if they so desired to sneak a glimpse. "I have no idea why it was designed that way, or why no attempt to provide greater privacy was ever attempted as long as I was there," Jim explained, chuckling.

"I remember writing home to my parents," he explained further, "and telling them we guys were shocked at first when we discovered this arrangement. But we got used to it, especially since there was at least a little distance between us and the street, and no one seemed to be gawking at us when we pulled our pants down and got down to business. We eventually laughed it off because, frankly, we needed something to laugh about over there. If that was the worst thing we had to deal with," he continued, "-- and believe me, it wasn't -- then we considered ourselves lucky."

Jim also told me that his mother was so amused by his predicament, such as it was, that she shared his revelatory letter with her bridge club. Those women then told their friends, and the grapevine soon had it all over my hometown that, as part of their assignment, Jim and his buddies were shitting right out on the streets of Saigon.

"My mother told me later on that the image of me using that ridiculous, jury-rigged facility actually helped her get through the trauma of me being over there and the anxiety of wondering if I would come back," he added. "Picturing me on the pot and on display from the street at least meant I was alive and well and laughing with my buddies. It was a whole lot more reassuring than what she was seeing on the nightly news."

And given the fact that one of Jim's friends came back with both his legs blown off (similar to Lieutenant Dan in Forrest Gump), it seemed foolish indeed to quibble over having no privacy while depositing the previous day's K-Rations and other military grub. Jim seems none the worse for wear these days, but he has told me point blank that there are things he simply cannot and will not discuss about Vietnam. I certainly respect that about him, and I particularly respect and understand the streak of Shamelessness he acquired over there out on the streets of Saigon.

-- The Big Wiper

Tydirium (516) -- 10.29.2003

It's so bizarre. But I find it hard to believe the Saigonese weren't watching. They were looking out of the corner of their eyes, and thinking, "disgusting americans."

Communist McGriddle (not verified) -- 10.29.2003

In Soviet Russia, toilets poop on you!!

The Big Wiper (2245) -- 10.29.2003

I'm pretty sure you're right, Ty. Jim said they just blanked it all out and concentrated on the matter at hand, gaining some solace from doing the doo together.
As I have noted on this site since I came aboard in March, there is a real form of bonding that can take place under certain shameless circumstances that are thrust upon people.

Poopkorn (not verified) -- 10.29.2003

Hey, striking Vietnamese women isn't very nice! You shouldn't strike any woman, regardless of her nationality.

The Big Wiper (2245) -- 10.29.2003

Ha! Didn't see that one coming!

doniker (1534) -- 10.29.2003

Most people that I've known that have fought in a war or even were in the service during peacetime aren't bothered by shameful shitting and aren't squimmish or have hang-ups about anything.
I sometimes wish I would have served in the armed forces....I am sure it could have made me a better man.

ThreePly (not verified) -- 10.29.2003

My dad was in Vietnam, and much like "Jim" there are things he'll never talk about, and quite frankly, I don't want to know about them. However, one of the few things dad openly talked about were the toilet facilities. The above story described them much like what my dad described them as, except my dad recalled the situation while on the beach where they dug the trench, laid down the plank of toilet holes over the trench and where you sit, so shall you shit. When it was time to move on, they removed the toilet plank and covered the hole.

War truly is hell.

Slim Jim Junkie (not verified) -- 10.30.2003

The previous posters were right. It isn't everyday that you see a bare ass. Even thought most people don't want to see a hairy crack, they can't help but watch, because it isn't common.

Now if you were a plumber.....

CrapperJohn MD (not verified) -- 10.30.2003

I served 3 years in the mid 90's. Pooping in the woods during exercises was always a funny topic. Some guys would only eat certain foods to poop less. Some guys would sit on a cardboard box to poop. One guy even took a wooden chair with a hole cut out to the field. One new private walked away from camp to poop in the night with no moon light -- he got lost for 45 minutes. The occasional porta-johns are the nastiest. I'd always make sure to take a dump if rain was in the forcast - don't wanna be caught poopin in the rain. In the summer, flies would fly around your ass and eat the crap while you're still poopin. Oh, how I miss them days.

The Big Wiper (2245) -- 10.30.2003

Hey, CrapperJohn MD, thanks for your great input, or should I say, output? When you said..."I'd always make sure to take a dump if rain was in the forecast--don't wanna be caught poopin' in the rain..." I couldn't help but get this image of a soldier doing his doodie while exercising his vocal chords and paraphrasing that old MGM musical standby. "Poopin' in the rain, I'm poopin' in the rain, what a glorious feeling, I'm happy again..."

Just struck me as funny, man!

CrapperJohn MD (not verified) -- 10.31.2003

TBW... man, you won't believe how luxurious it feels when you take your first dump on some porcelin after dropping bombs into a hole for 2 weeks. One thing I just remembered... the MRE's (Meals Ready to Eat field rations) all come with one wet nap... I'd save those up and always finish off with a couple of those so my bunghole wouldn't itch. You don't want dingle-berries if you're not gonna shower for 2 weeks.

Poo Didigy (not verified) -- 11.01.2003

Something tells me, that I would enjoy sitting with my pants around my ankles squeezing out a turd while a bunch of little Asians watched. That would me my idea of a good time.

The Shit Volcano (3740) -- 11.20.2003

Sounds like the facilities in camp. I wouldn't know about the military, though. Sounds like the troops of today have gone from sitting in troughs to the government shitting on them. (Then again, the same thing happened in Vietnam.) Kudos to our troops past and present. And hang in there!

son of bill (not verified) -- 01.01.2004

HAHAHAHAHA Poor Solgers. Great Job

healthy 1 (1427) -- 10.29.2006

son of bill (not verified) -- 01.01.2004
HAHAHAHAHA Poor Solgers. Great Job

It is spelled soldiers? I digress, I heard that in during WWII and in Korea, the soldiers would have a large barrel to do their business in.

I'm sure the passers by didn't even care about seeing the soldiers pooping. My hat goes of to all of the soldiers from all wars. Hang in there, keep up the good work, and thank you for your time spent at war. Words cannot express my gratitude.
_______
It's not nice to fool mother nature.

The Big Wiper (2245) -- 10.29.2006

healthy 1: do you suppose son of bill thinks solgers drink Foldiers coffee?

DungDaddy (1386) -- 11.18.2006

Was Jim in the Army or the Marines?

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