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The Barracks Bathrooms: Girls Have It Worse

Posted 06.17.2008 by Regardless (14)
I went down to the army post of Fort Lewis, Washington, for the annual Special Olympics state soccer tournament. I found it fun, despite losing both games.

In a general sense, the participants headed down to Fort Lewis on Friday afternoon to settle in at the barracks. Then we all went to the opening ceremonies. After the ceremonies, we went back to the barracks to go to bed. In the morning on Saturday, after having breakfast, we headed to the soccer fields play at least one game on Saturday. When the games of the day are over, we went back to the barracks and got ready for dinner and the dance, which takes place at the same location as the openings. On Sunday, we go back to the fields to play the remaining games before going back home (or to hang out, if we were eliminated). The Fort Lewis weekend of events takes place following Memorial Day.

This year I learned that the girls on my team from Renton stayed in a barrack that had a latrine-style bathroom that had no stalls. The stalls were not just doorless -- they were completely stall-less. Yep, it is just a row of four toilets, with absolutely nothing between them. So that when a woman has to use the toilet, she is completely open to view to the other women using the latrine. She has no privacy.

This barrack housed at least twenty or thirty women, and only half of them were from my Renton recreation group.

The sinks were also a hassle. There was a ramp leading into the bathroom, cutting off access to the further sinks. There was only one sink that is actually open and easy to use, and it was in high demand. If a woman wished to use the other sinks, she had to bend over the railing of the ramp to use the sink, putting her in an awkward posture.

I found out because one of the girls from the Renton group took a picture of the toilets. It was just a row of toilets. At first I thought that photo was taken in China or Iran or some other eastern country. Then she told me that those toilets were INSIDE THE BARRACK where they were staying.

We guys were lucky. There are always stalls at the toilets so we can have privacy at the toilets.

When we went to the track stadium to watch the people run, I walked into the men's room. At the toilets, there is one toilet that is half-stalled, so it is in clear view.

So: it looks like that if you are in the military, there is no privacy for you.

Thunderbox (837) -- 06.17.2008

Doubt if the open stall would worry them - as it doesn`t look like those guys are too bothered about wiping with TP soaked in piss and whatever other crap is lying on the floor.

Maybe it`s enough that they use a toilet at all!

sittingpretty (160) -- 06.17.2008

I would have to leave.

C Everett Poop (649) -- 06.17.2008

Military training is about breaking down individuality and reinforcing the team concept. You can't be shy around the guys (or gals) that are going to risk their lives for yours. Anyway, that must be an old barracks because they all have stalls now.

ChiefThunderbutt (777) -- 06.17.2008

Military barracks were not designed to insure privacy, they were designed to provide efficiency.
My barracks in basic training, many years ago, housed 120 men in two bays, upper and lower. We slept in bunk beds that were arranged in two rows in each bay. I was lucky and had a bottom bunk in the lower bay. The latrine was conveniently located at the front of the lower bay. Commodes (I believe there were about 12) were in a straight line with no stalls. They were very close together. The shower room had about six or eight shower heads. We were required to shower on a daily basis and only had about 5 minutes to complete the task. It was so crowded that we may have actually soaped up a buddy's dick on occassion. Ahh, the good old days.

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Eat chilies and feel the burn!!

The Big Wiper (2245) -- 06.17.2008

The posters above are correct. Military barracks, particularly during basic training, are designed to create a unit that can survive such rigors as life and death combat. Privacy is not the goal of military training.

Pulling My Pants Down For Peace, Plop and Posterity!

jayhill (20) -- 06.17.2008

When I was in the army 15 years ago I stayed in some barracks that had completely open toilets. I don't think most guys cared whether somebody saw them shitting---hell, we all do it. I learned real fast though that my wife does not want me coming in to take a shit while she is in the bathtub---maybe it's a woman thing.

CC (not verified) -- 06.17.2008

To all the veterans who posted,thank you for your service and keeping my big ass safe so it can shit in freedom.If you are still serving get home safe so you can enjoy many years of pooping.The best commercial I've seen in many years is The Budweiser Commercial when the troops march through the airport and get a standing ovation.For all the troops this Bud's for you.

daphne (3608) -- 06.17.2008

If you continue to read on the site, jayhill, you'll see that being ashamed to poop in front of others has less to do with sex than you think. We get our share of shameful guys all the time.

I'll have to ask Mr. daphne if he's seen these barracks on Lewis or has heard of them. Maybe they weren't the only ones.


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pnuttycorn (234) -- 06.17.2008

Wow. I don't know what to say. I just feel sorry for the shameful shitters.

The Shit Volcano (3740) -- 06.17.2008

These bathrooms don't sound any different from the ones at my pre-school, and none of the kids there were shameful about shitting in front of each other. I think that was the pre-school's point. Train us early to not be ashamed.

The reason I am cautious to use the toilet in a bathroom with one open stall is not shamefulness, it's the stupidity of the legal system nowadays. I'm sure the minute I plop my ass down on the open toilet, some lady will walk in with her four-year-old and I'll be stamped as a pediphile for life.

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Well, you don't actually blow on it. That's just an expression.

Jerry Lewis (not verified) -- 06.17.2008

What'sss going ONNNNN? What's the big deal? When I was in high school in the 30's, all toilets were open air ie. stallless, in the schools.

Girls were girls, men were men, and shit was shit, it smelled bad and no one cared. That's all and there no more to say

ChiliKahKah (84) -- 06.18.2008

I am sure that certain US Senators would have a comment or two about such arrangements. If Larry Craig had been in such a bathroom he would not have needed to tap his shoe to get his hoped for attention.

shitwit (558) -- 06.18.2008

I remember the open stalls we had at 4H camp. I guess the concept was the same. We weren't supposed to spend all summer at camp pooping comfortably and peacefully. It was intended that we'd shower quick (3 minute showers), pee quick, and poop quick. we had a giant trough for teeth brushing out in the open. It had a roof but it was open on all sides and there were about a dozen spigots that all drained into one massive pan. Yuck. At least the area smelled of toothpaste and mouthwash, and not dook and feces.

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Rock-n-roll! Poopy-poo!

goanywhere (14) -- 06.19.2008

Come on, get over it! It's the army. What do you expect? This probably is a men's barracks that was used by females for this purpose. I remember back in Jr. High discovering that the girl's locker room had individual shower stalls and doors on the toilet stalls. My elementary school had doorless stalls, my jr. high had doorless stalls, most of the stalls in high school were doorless. My first college dorm had 1 bathroom for 8 guys. In it were 2 sinks, 2 shower heads (in an open area), 1 urinal and 1 toilet -- there were no dividers or walls between anything. My second dorm had toilet stalls with no doors. The gym at college had no stall doors. Several classroom buildings had doorless stalls. I could go on and on.

This was very common. We guys got used to shitting in front of each other. No big deal. Our feeling was that the girls needed to just get over it.

ChiefThunderbutt (777) -- 06.19.2008

I was not ashamed to shit in front of my buddies but I did hate breathing the
fumes of their shit.

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Eat chilies and feel the burn!!

Exposed Visitor (not verified) -- 06.19.2008

I work as a consultant for a firm that publishes high school yearbooks, commemorative CDs, and similar projects. Nearly 80 percent of my job description involves being in schools promoting our products/services and offering support to journalism advisers/sponsors and their students who use them.

Having worked outside of schools for a few years (OK, Class of '67!) I was surprised by the number of schools which have taken privacy away from the users of the girls bathrooms. It seems like once or twice a week now I'm using an open-stall toilet (one with partitions but no doors). I sure don't linger on the stool like I was accustomed to 40 years ago. I do, however, look for indications (broken off hinges, holes in the partitions that once signaled a door). A larger number of schools when remodeling, will install doors without latch assemblies (making teacher supervision easier), and in a couple of school this year had doors that were taken off selected stalls on almost a daily basis due to vandalism and I suspect, stored by custodians until the administration feels the students have been "taught" their lesson. Try running a software tutorial when one of the page editors says "I just need to pee real fast, I'll be back in 2 minutes and comes back in 15 minutes later because she had to walk to the other side of the building (the lines were too long for the 2 of 8 stalls that had doors remaining).

More than anything, I hear more girls, when talking among themselves, expressing resignation to just "holdin' it" until they get home. Public schools are not the military and the age level of the students is such that the "holdin' it" mentality can impact them years after their graduation.

Deja Poo (625) -- 06.20.2008

Interesting. All of the crappers that I ever remember in the Army had doors on them, even in basic. They even kept armor outlines taped to the back of the doors so that we could identify BMP's and T-72's by their silhouette.

Now, we did have to dig cat holes and shit with a buddy watching while out on maneuvers. But, heck, it's not camping if you can't shit in the woods.
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Yo quiero Taco Bell.

phatmanxxl (157) -- 06.23.2008

A shameless shitters dream come true

spackle (38) -- 06.26.2008

I am sorry but there is something disturbing about locking eyes with someone you dont know in mid grunt. In the military I totally get it. But as for us civilians? Put up a freaking wall. Its not that complicated!

spackle (38) -- 06.26.2008

As to doorless shitters in schools? They probably do it to deter sex and drug use. I would never rip a stool in school anyway. They were usually Dante's fifth circle of Hell. Then again this was the NYC public school system.

Anonymous Coward (not verified) -- 08.03.2008

Girls have periods and therefore need privacy. We don't care about shitting. Try shoving a tampon up your twat in the presence of 12 other people.

Logman (47) -- 08.13.2008

Well, these really don't represent the majority of Army latrines. I've been in for 7 years, and been to my fair share of various posts, and most of them have full stalls (not counting Basic Training). However, we do have one post, right here in Michigan, called Fort Custer. It is a training post for us Reservists and National Guardsmen. The barracks are old WW2 barracks, and are falling apart. Each latrine has a urinal trough, and 5 shitters, all in the open, and very close to each other. I won't even lie, I was there in March, and 5 of us were shitting after Sunday breakfast, and we said "What the hell?" and played some Blackjack on the table in front of the shitters! Trust me, a stall is nice, but the absence of one doesn't bother us too much, but we still usually have them.

Anonymous Coward (not verified) -- 09.14.2008

In upstate NY I've seen what looked like a latrine out of Schindlers List. It was basically a hole in the ground covered by a wooden board that had 4 or 5 holes cut into it.
Of course, no partitions. It was inside some kind of shed and the flies were rediculous.This was at some kind of power facility near Wurtsboro.

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