You already know what I think. women are more gross in the bathroom...especially when its "their time of the month". I worked at a janitorial service when I was a kid and this one place had these containers in the ladies room by the toilets for used tampons that I had to empty. 50% of the women missed the container and left them in the toilet, on the floor, etc. I quit this job real quick...I would rather be a homeless bum.

ive been a janitor for 69 yrs and i can tel you that women are worse. i usually keep a hidden camera in the stalls so that i can take the tape home after work and i always find them leaving their shit in the toilet b/c they dont want to touch the handles.l it is really disgusting. once i went in to clean up this clogged toilet that was full of feces blood urine and toilet papar

Men are much more civilized on the toilet. While women are grunting and gazing between their legs, checking their mucous for elasticity, men are reading the latest issue of Wall Street Journal. Secretions or Stock Quotes? You be the judge.

women are definitely more disgusting than guys. In the place that I work, someone had a miscarriage in the toliet...so much blood.

God bless the janitors. You have got to be a special person to want to be a janitor. To spend your life cleaning up the results of other peoples bodily functions.

Maybe women aren't necessarily more disgusting, it's just that a) when women are more disgusting, they have more body fluids at their disposal to be disgusting with than men, or b) we perceive women to be cleaner in general, so its shocking to us when women are gross. Maybe we're just used to guys being nasty.

Well, men have the advantage of standing up half of the time, and women have more bodily fluids released in that area. How would you like to bleed from you penis? I personally think both are equally disgusting. Men piss all over everywhere except the toilet, and women leave traces of tampons on the floor. There have been many times when i have gone to use the bathroom at my other brother's apartment and have seen shit left on the back of the toilet seat, and i have seen blood all over the toilet seat at my work. So figuratively speaking we both are disgusting just in different ways.

Well, I have to admit, my experience of women's bathrooms is limited. But the previous responses makes it clear that woman are disgusting. The idea that it is because they have more fluid coming out is a farce. The problem is that women think that their periods and the fact that they have to sit down to piss is a burden that they don't deserve, and so they have no shame about the mess they leave. How many women piss all over the seat because they need to squat over the toilet after every woman before them did the same thing? Men, on the other hand, by virtue of their experience with masturbating are very aware and prepared to remove any and all evidence of their bodily waste. We got an extra fluid, too, and many times you don't know where it's going or how far. But we take the time to clean it up, because we realize that no one wants to walk in on that. I guess women don't know the shame of being caught jerking off.

I once went to a school in which the ladies room was like a scene out of a nightmare movie, much worse than any other story here. Besides blood, feces, urine, and vomit, there was ocasionaly "aborted babies" yes, you heard right, it was in a really bad part of phoenix, and uugh, those gals never heard of contraception?

Well, i dont think that womens periods are an excuse to be disgusting. I just know from my own periods that i do take more care into my cleanliness. Maybe its that most people dont care about being clean in a public bathroom. Since it isnt theirs why treat it with care. and OMG aborted babies, that is disgusting. Maybe you shouldnt label it as Men or Women thats disgusting just certain people. I'm a pretty damn clean person myself and im sure most of you are as well. Its just when some people arent clean then the rest of use look bad. And to Sir spank alot, why should we be ashamed of our bodily fluids in the first place? do you read the forums?

It was almost disheartining to hear about, and to smell!

man i don't really know who is more disgusting, but that is some really sick shit, good god.

I personally think that men are more disgusting. I've walked in a few men's bathrooms and the stench is disgusting. The bathrooms smell like urine and some immature ones think it's funny to do disgusting things. I agree that some women are disgusting and don't know how to clean up after themselves.,.,but that isn't women in general.

My vote has to go to the women. i worked at chuck e cheese for a summer job, when i was sixteen, and man the womens bathroom was foul. I dont know if some women think that they are to good to flush, but their was shit in almost every toilet at the end of the day that was not flushed. Men shit and piss, but atleast they flush! And those little tampon trash cans, they really work well, we had to put a plastic liner in them, and guarenteed that atleast three of them would have a bloody tampon smeared down the side and on the floor. And women changing diapers of thier little ones, Shity kid diapers everywhere, not a very clean place, it always took me twice as long to clean the womens restroom than the mens!

This forum is disgusting and horrible.

The only thing I can add to it is the fact that in elementary school, the entire halls of the 4th and 5th grade classrooms stank like piss because of the boys bathrooms on each level. We had to keep the doors of the classrooms closed because of it, else it would seep in (the smell, not the urine itself).

I think it comes down what sort of hygienic habits & consideration for others one has whether one is male or female, if you are a disgusting slob without any consideration for others i.e. if you would not treat your bathroom at home that way then why would you be so disgusting and inconsiderate in a shared bathroom?? I have seen every kind of disgusting mess in the "ladies" room, and personally, am too revolted to even go in and flush and then use the stall, I just do a quick U-turn and head for the next clean stall, unlike some women who will calmly flush the previous user's logs and goodness knows what other disgusting material and then use the toilet, just one glance is enough to turn my stomach! As for the smell of urine coming from men's rooms, well, not sure why that would be, and never visited a men's room so don't really know if they stink or not, but maybe it's because men don't feel the need to flush, since it goes down the drain as they pee, whereas in the toilet you add the pee to the water so you have to...if they don't flush then the water does not flush away the urine, and there is a loop in the pipes, "the trap" which prevents odors from leaking, so the pee just sits there smelling...

Come on -- this is a no-brainer. Have you ever seen a woman wipe a booger on the wall of a urinal?? Case closed!

I've worked for my employer -a major midwestern university- for 9 years. Seen, smelled, & cleaned up after every type of person *&* animal. In my opinion, it's got to be women. My proof:

Item: A can with a lid operated with a foot pedal used to collect used feminine hygeine products. Full.

Enviromental conditions: Outside, wintertime. Inside, a balmy 90 steam-heated degrees.

So, no chance of the window being open for ventilation. Let this noisome mixture slow-cook for 3 days. The smell is unholy miasma of decaying blood, vaginal sera, detached uterine lining, and the gawdawful perfume that the manufacturers of the hygeine appliances seem to like to douse their wares in.

Men are also guilty of sins of the bathroom; but most of these involve not flushing urinals.

I get the impression that all these posts here are from either American or Canada. I'm Irish and I have never ever witnessed ANYTHING mentioned on these posts in ladies bathrooms - and I have also lived in England and same applies for there. Ok I have seen one or two nasty things as accidents will happen once in a while but on the whole this is completely alien to me. Maybe it's a country/culture thing? Any other nationalities care to give opinions?

i am the best pooer

the UK is clean, that's all

Ok, I work at a bar, and part of my many unpleasant jobs is to clean the bathrooms. now, the janitor cleans the toilets, but i have to clean the sinks and mirrors. The ladies room is always nastier that the men. last night i went in there, and it looked like someone had shaved their legs in the sink. and then there was a huge bloody loogie hocked in it, and they didn't even have the courtesy to rinse it down. that's nasty.

women are real pigs. women's bathroom is full of dirty pissy toilet paper strew everywhere. i don't know what possesses these piglets to do this!

All I know is that alot of these chicks feel they are too good to clean up their own mess. Either that or they aren't as comfortable as guys doing disgusting shit. So, when the inrvitable accident/travesty/ass-explosion occurs, they are more likely to ignore it and leave the mess. Men on the other hand will sit back and admire, possibly show a friend or two, and then make a half-assed attempt to clean it up. At least something is better than nothing.

I don't men are worse than women or vice versa. They've both got the same basic digestive system and, so far as the passing of solids is concerned, plumbing.

I don't know who's worse, but the other day on my break at work I though, "Oh thank heavens it's my break. I can finally take a shit in peace. There's no one in the bathroom." So I go up to the employee bathroom and go into one of the stalls and in the toilet was a massive big, brown baby piece of shit. Looked like it'd been there for a while because there was a brown hue in the toilet water. So I flush and go on to the next toilet. Next one had a red smear on the toilet seat. Sick, I tell you. I don't know what kind of people I'm working with.

First of all, it is not about "Men or Women", it is about how you were raised to deal with the occasional mess. I've seen men's bathrooms and women's bathroom messy. One fact that you have to understand is that women sit down to go. And most of us have been taught not to sit on the seat, therefore perhaps we spill. I do not use public restrooms because I find them unhygenic. One thing most of you "men" have been saying is that women are disgusting. DO NOT make sexist comments judging all of us by a few vulgar women. If I just went into a random mens' public restroom what do you think I might find? If I find puddles on the floor, vomit in the toilets, and shit on the seats should I say that all men are vile, repulsive creatures? Or how about the bathroom in your home. If someone were to go in there what might they find? I am 14 years old and I am the only one not making sexist comments because of a few immoral people, that's sad, very very sad.

Seeing that you are a 14 year old girl, I doubt you have spent that much time in men's public bathrooms to compare the men's room to the women's room (unless you are a teenage whore who gives blow jobs for $5). I admit I am sexist, what normal man isn't? Sure, men lie about not being sexist to get their dicks into some wet pussy, but deep down all men know they are superior to women.

Accually, I have a brother so I had to go in there when I was little with him. And just for the record: I do not believe in premarrital relations.

I believe that both men and women can be vile in PRR's. It's disgusting how filthy they can actually be. There's no excuse for uncleanliness of that degree.

While both sexes can be as bad as each other, I agree with a previous post that you shouldn't judge everyone from one persons actions.

hey, im no sexist, but, hands down, women are worse when it comes to toilets. i would explain, but the explaining has already been done.

and a reply to vicki: when was the last time you have seen a women wipe ANYTHING on a urinal, let alone use one?

While I have seen disgusting filth perpetrated by both males and females, there is one incident that stands out in my memory. The boss went into the men's room one day and someone had torn out pages of the complimentary reading material (Sports Illustrated) and used it as toilet paper - throwing some of the soiled pages into the bowl and some into the floor. We were having a problem at that time with a mysterious toilet paper thief, so some dude improvised with the magazine.

As for odors, men's waste products and the women's "sanitary?" and waste products all stink like hell - when not quickly cleaned or removed - especially in the johns with NO ventilation whatsoever. Both sexes can be disgusting in their own little ways.

Why some people like to leave their little packages behind for others to clean or have the horror to witness, I don't understand. The FBI should establish a "profile" of non-flushers so they can be identified and prosecuted. These people need to be taken off the streets.

Man I wish Doniker was here to give people shit.

As for A person, shut the fuck up. Your a 14 year old, cock whore! Thanks.

A male friend of mine would piss in the corners of bathrooms, missing the urinal entirely- he thought it was funny- he'd piss in the walk-in cooler where all the beer was kept at a store we went to. I just laughed and told im he's an idiot.I don't know women who would do that, or think it's funny. A woman was caught at a Sears store shitting in a trashcan that wasn't even in the bathroom- she had wrapped her coat around it and was just kindof ..sitting there shitting.duh.

According to a news report, a certain private school in Victoria, BC,

> recently was faced with a unique problem. A number of grade 12 girls were

> beginning to use lipstick and would put it on in the bathroom. That was

> fine, but after they put on their lipstick they would press their lips to

> the mirror leaving dozens of little lip prints.

>

> Every night, the maintenance man would remove them and the next day, the

> girls would put them back. Finally the principal decided that something

had

> to be done. She called all the girls to the bathroom and met them there

with

> the maintenance man. She explained that all these lip prints were causing

a

> major problem for the custodian who had to clean the mirrors every night.

>

> To demonstrate how difficult it had been to clean the mirrors, she asked

the

> maintenance man to show the girls how much effort was required. He took

out

> a long-handled squeegee, dipped it in the toilet, and cleaned the mirror

> with it. Since then, there have been no lip prints on the mirror.

>

> There are teachers, and then...............there are educators...

there is a reason you havent seen any women wiping boogers on the sides of urinals vicki. most women dont use urinals. (im making allowance for the occasional woman who can and will pee standing up.)

In response to Super Bowl's post, I already said that I do not believe in pre-marital relations. Therefore what you called me makes no sense. Thank you for showing us all your maturity level.

All I know is this that the women at my job are disguesting. I'm on the Health and Saftey Commitee and I've seen how nasty the Ladies RR are. Some woman missed the trash for her sanitary napkin for on the floor in the corner of the stall all bloodied. Blood on the toilet. And talk about pissing on the seats, woman do it to. The women at work are gross. As for the men, well I did hear about something shit all over the walls, but I don't have the full story. Women can be pigs, and so can men.

The girls bathrooms at my school are disgusting. I won't even use them in dire emergencies. The toliet seats are covered in sticky goo, the trash cans are always overflowed with crap and used pads/tampons, there are spots all over the floor... It's no wonder the janitor won't clean that bathroom up.

My guy friend, he tells me the boys bathrooms are relatively clean.

Has anybody used the openseats and were affraid of them

Is this a joke!!!!!!

Of course all these replys are going to be against women because the most people on here are men! Men care more about poop and that nature than women. Women don't care to look up a website like this!! HA GUYS YOU ARE GOING TO SAY WE ARE CLEAN!! lol (I AM GUY.)I am just saying that everyone will just say the other gender. This is the conclusion, there can't be one!!!! Based on each others bathroom needs!

gad who is that 2-bit whore?

women are dirty, ask my girlfriend: she's proud of it!

Depends a lot on the people using the restroom. I've cleaned a fair number of restaurant and hotel restrooms, and both sexes can be pretty damn messy. Men tend to be messy because of poor aim, but tend to produce more obnoxious odors. Women produce fewer strange scents, but I am convinced that women are messy on purpose. A lot of the mess produced in women's restrooms seems to be for the purpose of avoiding contamination. For instance, there's always about a foot of tissue on the floor in the ladies' room. Women have carefully pulled paper to line the seats, lest they contract some awful toilet-seat disease... and then once the paper has touched the seat, they won't touch it again to throw it away. Which results in delicate streamers of toilet paper floating down into the bowl, wicking up water and other detritus. Eventually this clogs the toilet, even if proper wiping protocol has been followed.

Another peculiar female phenomenon is tampon or pad disposal. If there's not a mini-can in the stall, women either drop the damn thing on the floor or try to flush it... It seems to me that more of us would learn to wrap the offending item in TP and dump it in the big trashcan on the way out... but that would be too simple. Why is it "too gross" to carry it to a trash receptacle? You just stuck your fingers all over it getting it out.

For some reason, women are weirder about disposal of nasty items generally, too... only a woman would try to dump a used tampon in a restaurant kitchen garbage disposal (I fired her for that, too)... only a woman would try to change her kid's diaper at a restaurant table during Sunday lunch rush...

Of course, part of this is also based on a conviction that guys are neater than girls, generally. I know my husband is the clean freak in our house... I just get paid to keep things sanitary at work. :)

We took some American friends to Wales and they found the public toilets in one place equally discusting.

This place was in the news for a while in the 60's.

However the point is that they both said the same and my wife and I agreed

I had to use the Mensroom sometime ago(female).The Door inside proclaimed "this is a french historical Site,Napoleon sat here and blew his bon-a-parte.

Any Idea what that mean?

'bon' = 'bone' a colloquial word for penis 'a-parte' = apart

I occasionally clean the restrooms at work, and I must say the women's is invariably more disgusting: clogged bowl, toilet paper scattered everywhere, tampons all over the place. Stinks to high heaven. To be fair, the men's room usually stinks as well, but it's unambiguously a urine stench. The women's has a more-er-complex odor of urine, perfume, menstrual blood, feces, and various chemical smells (tampon related, I assume). While the floor in the men's is more likely to be wet, the floor in the women's has more trash.

my experience is that every men's room will have that 6 inch diameter circle of piss permanently embedded in tile

Personally I like restrooms that have art work or some funny saying like, this is a teepee for you to pee pee not a wigwam for you to beat your tom tom.

Men's usually stink like piss. Gross, but I can deal with it Women's are fairly nastier. My girlfriend told me they used to throw their used tampons on the wall and see if they would stick, or slap Maxi-pads against the door or mirrors, and leave them there. She also said she's found tampons in the sink drains, and some woman once left a giant buttplug in the stall, smeared with poop.

i don't want to say that all women are pigs in the washroom... but from my experience in my long history of janitorial work, i have noticed that 9 times out of 10, the women's washroom is far worse than the men's.

case 1: when i worked on a ferry, i was resposible for all of the cleaning. the women's washroom always stunk, had toilet paper everywhere & had piss soaked floors.

case 2: i used to work at the largest mcdonald's in canada... one time my manager called me to go shut down the main women's restroom & clean it... when i entered it, i found (located mostly around the 2nd stall in)an awful shitty & bloody mess... complete with a tube of lube & a HUGE dildo!!!

another time in the same washroom, i had to clean up a mess left behind by a very sick woman. i am assuming that she was sitting down, sick with the runs, when the urge to puke came over her. she must have then stood & turned to puke into the toilet... once puking (& exerting much force) her ass must have exploded... spraying shit all over the floor & the inside of the stall door.

other than what i listed above, i have found lots of used tampons & just general garbage & crap in women's rooms. about the wost i ever observed in a men's room was a clogged toilet & maybe some piss around the urinal on the floor. but for the most part us guys seem pretty clean. in my home i am the neat freak... my wife would just wollow in a puddle of her own filth if i wasn't here to clean up after her, i'm sure. i am not saying that all woman are this way... but a select few make the rest of you look bad.

The piss stains of the Men's are worse than Women's, but the Ladies' room has a lot of other problems. It stinks and lots more women smoke in there even though they shouldn't.

...oh yeah,,, i almost forgot about the smoking (thanks slim jim) that women feel the need to do in the rest room. i smoke myself, so i understand the need or desire to light one up. but holy shit girls! why do you need to go do it in a public rest room??? i have seen (& cleaned up) lots of ashes & butts in sinks. personaly i think that the smell of smoke helps to cover up the wrank smell of the women's can... maybe that's why they do it.

Sure, smoking does cover the stench with its own odor, but I think covering the smell is somewhat unnessacary. If toilets didn't get built to flush shit, why did they exist? People shouldn't be too concerned with the oder, unless they shit something that was 3 days overdue. That stench could kill a dog.

I FEEL THE MENS ROOM SMELLS LIKE PISS! WHAT DO YOU GUYS PISS EVERY WHERE BUT I HAVE TO SAY WHEN IT COMES TO SHITTIN WE ALL STACK UP ABOUT EVEN. ON A GOOD DAY I CAN BLOW MYSELF UP WITH THE REAKING STENCH MY BUTT PRODUCES.

i no someone who works in mcdonalds and they had to clean the ladies toilets and someone had wiped their ass and then wiped it all across the wall. thats sick i think mens are bad though, i once walked in wen i was bout 7 and all the toilets had shit in! they smell too

In my experience, there is always a horrible piss smell coming from the mens room. It is true that some are careless witht heor femine product, but I have had few experiences with shit left in the toilet and piss on the floor. Many times women will only carry their feminine products to the trash can if no one is around. It can be embarrasing, especially if their are young children around who don't know what pads or tampons are. But, it doesn't help that many trash cans for feminine products do not have plastic liners, so, even if you wrap them in toilet paper, pads stick to the container. Also, there aren't enough women with their period even at high traffic places to fill a sanitary bin in one day. I think the janitors are just lazy and disgusted by menses, so they wait as long as possible before they clean it out.

I've worked in a fast food restaurant and had to clean the bathrooms for seven years now, and I hav enever experienced any of this stuff in the women's room. The women's room is always spotless, smells nice, and hardly requires any cleaning at all, whereas the mens room always has snot smeared on the walls where guys have picked their noses while on the toilet, and sometimes shit on the walls as well, toilet paper all over the place, sports sections on the floor, and urine and pubic hair all over every available surface. And that's not counting the guys who come in and shit in the urinal or stuff like that, to mess things up on purpose. Half the time there's shit in the trashcan, or the trashcan has been kicked over and strewn everywhere. Everyone that works there agrees that they would much rather clean the women's room than the men's. There are a couple of girls there that absolutely refuse to clean the men's room, but they have no problem with cleaning the womens room because it is so clean anyway.

I have been in a woman's room where someone smeared shit on the walls. However, the biggest problem I've found is those dumbasses who put their sanitary napkins in the toilet. Yuck!!!

So we find out that things are a mess alright. I hear all of this and it makes me realize a common problem in the USA anyhow. First off, bodily function is not a flower shop. Presence sensing auto flushing toilets should be a federal requirement by the Federal Centers for Disease Control. Secondly, it would help a lot if this country would wake up and start paying laborers what they are worth, in this case janitors! Hell Fire, they don't pay janitors nothing, and have them come in at night usually, leaving the terlets go all damn day long. It is a viscious circle once the throne gets dirty and the ladies won't sit on it. But, they can lift the damn seat and put it back down just like us men have to do - if they are gonna aim and ~hoover~ to hit the target. Incidently, men are much better shots. The problem is also worse in population centers where thousands of butts enter the shitter each day. Yet another reason I live here on the plains, where the buffalo roam, cause they don't even stink as bad as humans can. You know, a Buffalo Fart a day keeps the Doctor away. *hat tip to ya all*

Okay, now this is gross! Remember when I told you about the bathroom where someone smeared shit on the walls? Now someone's come by and licked the stains! EWWWW!!!!!!!!!!

I'm just wondering why it is that everyone thinks that men are worse at aiming for the bowl when using the bathroom. Compare and contrast:

1) a human person, facing the toilet bowl/urinal, holding a hose-like bodily apparatus that can be directed at a certain place, and sometimes lifting the toilet seat to go, if they're fastidious to a certain degree;

VS.

2: a human person, facing away from the toilet, probably not sitting on the toilet, but rather hovering about five or six inches away, with no hands to help (most of the time) and just sorta hoping everything will go correctly.

My guess is, a lot of the urine (not all, not even most, but a lot) on the floor is not even male urine at all, but the product of an unbelievable queue at the ladies' door. No girl, if in a guy's bathroom, would stay long enough to clean up any messes she happened to make, would she? All this about "men going everywhere but the toilet" is really not all that logical. We don't close our eyes when we go, or try to make designs on the wall! It's not really that hard to pee with a penis, while you're facing what you're aiming at. Think about that.

I Work in Maintenance Men and Women are Equaly Messes
They Both Will Pee on the floor pee on the seat Crap on the Floor, the wall you think they crao standing up. They Crap on the the seat.They will Toilet Despenser of the wall. Then they will do the worse thing of all they will throw their used toilet paper
on yhe Floor.

Contrary to what the majority have posted on this topic, where I work, the women's room is much cleaner than the men's room. I know because I have looked at the men's room out of curiosity on several occasions when I had to work late, and was the last one to leave. Mainly, the men's room has a bunch of obscene graffiti in the stalls, and the women's room has none. Also, the men's room where I work smells of piss - like some of the guys purposely miss the bowl in a big way. I might also add our maintainence crew doesn't seem to go out of their way to keep the bathrooms very clean, other than removing some of the more flagrant filth. They keep the bathrooms reasonably clean, but sure don't do the most thorough possible job of it either.
What gets me about using the women's room at work is all the women who won't sit on the toilet seat because they think it's not clean, and pee with their butts six inches or so above the toilet. I really don't care if they want to do this, BUT they do it with the seat still down! As a result, there is frequently a spray of urine on the seat after they finish. I have learned from several bad experiences to ALWAYS clean the toilet seat with Lysol and toilet paper before sittng. Believe me, there is no such gross feeling as sitting down and feeling that you've sat in someone's pee splash! The irony is that these women who won't sit on the toilet seat to pee because they're afraid it's dirty are themselves the reason why so many women don't want to sit down to pee. And how much do you want to bet these same women at home give their husbands or boyfriends hell if they don't put the seat back down after they pee?
My main purpose for writing this is to tell other women to LIFT THE TOILET SEAT IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SIT ON IT TO PEE!!!!

What? Don't you like my toilet seat tinkle art?

I think public restrooms in general are just nasty for both genders. I have worked in fast food so i've cleaned up many men and women's bathrooms and they are both pretty equally disgusting. But hands down men are more disgusting when it comes to their personal bathrooms in their homes, especially if they are single! I have two older brothers and their bathrooms are always nasty! Same with past boyfriends. Urine is always on the toliet seat and they never care about the smells that stay lingering. Women on the other hand I think are more conscious about stuff like that so when it comes to their own bathrooms they clean up after themselves because they don't want anyone to smell or see anything obscene that can be traced back to them.

I just spoke to two people involved with janitorial work. They both worked at Disneyworld and agree that both sexes are equally as nasty in the bathroom. Especially some of the ruder tourists from Brazil, who shit in the garbage cans. Sometimes they shit on the ground, pick it up, and put it in the garbage can.

i don't think women take craps. i've never seen any take one, and i don't believe anything until i see it. and i don't want to see it! for several reasons you can figure out yourself, but if you absolutely must know the two don't mix. women are beautiful creatures (well not all precisely, not so many actually, quite a few come to think of it, in fact almost none, but there are a couple who are just so ridiculously beautiful you regret you didn't commit suicide while you were a sperm), and getting back to where i started, the two have nothing to do with each other. IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN OK???

and now of course there are some people out there who think they're real smart asking so where does the shit go. all i can say to you fuckers is kiss my ass and good luck in finding a woman who will subject herself to that sort of scientific investigation.

if women took craps hardware stores would be selling separate bags saying "womanure".

Actually, I shit quite frequently. You can't watch, though.

I hate cleaning the women's shitter at work, because women change baby diapers more often than men. Also it only takes one woman to get a single drop of pee on the seat to make a million others hover or build nests out of t.p....all of which they don't bother to clean up. I swear, the bathroom floors always look like a hamsters cage with all the shredded paper.

On the other hand.. i do find more soiled underwhere hiding under a magazine in the men's bathroom.

Where I work we have one bathroom for the men and one for the women(and sometimes the women have to use the mens'-they're practically unisex bathrooms anyways.

The men's bathroom, to quote a co-worker of mine, smells like "moldy ass" and the floor is sticky with lord knows what.

i work retail and i can't stand the women's bathrooms. there is always smeared crap on the seat and sometimes it's "sprayed on". it's so disgusting. why can't they wipe it off the seat when they're done. and i know it's from squatting over the seat instead of sitting on the germs, but i'm a girl and if i accidentally spray some...i clean it up. and what's the deal with crapping in the garbage instead of toilet. or why do some wipe and put the dirty toilet paper in the garbage instead of flushing down the toilet. someone please explain if you do this.

It happened today! I went to clean the women's bathrooms and there it was....in the garbage can....which is right beside the toilet. i don't get it. and it was a huge log turd. i gagged so much. i finally had to close my eyes to empty the trash so i wouldn't throw up. So nasty!
Does anyone know the answer to this mystery?

Dudes r more nasty than chix. I was waiting to go to a public bathroom, and this dude says, in a normal talking volume, 'I have to take a dump real bad' and so the lady says, '::.sigh.:: You just did! and man it smelled, I was so embarassed' and then the dude says 'Oh come on, its a bathroom!' He comes back out in a bout 5 minutes, opens the door, and I am blasted with a hot breeze that smelled of barf, pee, turds and mouldy toilet water. The lady says 'OMG WTH Happened in there!!??' And the dude says, 'lotsa stuff ... It's a bathroom' as if it smells like lysol to him in there.

So there ya go.

Yummy candy: I would never crap in a trash can, but sometimes, I throw the paper in the trash can so the toilet wouldn't clogged up w/paper.

i see how you wouldn't want to stop up a toilet...maybe try flushing after it fills up then you have a fresh clean toilet to put more paper in. that's what i do. just remember the people like me that have to gag when cleaning the garbages. :-)

read my walmart story...i poo on the floor and fill the tolite up just becasue I hate walmart...it's so funny one time besides putting the the dirty t-paper in the tolite I speared it on the wall....really funny...

After I'm done doing my business, I wipe my bunghole until I can touch it without getting crap on my hands (I've touched it clean before), then I wipe the tip of my joystick. Then I put the TP in the toilet and flush. Some women don't flush. If I were supposed to clean those restrooms, I might spray McDonalds on the pile of blown chunks mistakenly. I mean come on! Logs on the seat/inside an unflushed bowl, Technicolor yawns on the floor, puddles of #1 on the floor, Tampons all over the place... chicks need to start cleaning up their business!

I think if establishments would just make more effort to clean their bathrooms now and then people would be more respectfull and clean up after themselves... If the place is already a mess people are much more likely to disrespect the facilities and leave their poo and TP and tampons and all of that everywhere. Then all of that mess accumulates and leads to one Nasty Bathroom.

I think that women are more discusting. when i was younger, my sister used to never flush the toilet when she pissed. It was always filled with yellow piss and a pile of toilet paper. nasty

~* WELL BOYS I AM A WOMAN. TRUST ME I HAVE SEEN SOME PRETTY SICK SHIT IN THE LADYS ROOM. USUALLY YOU WILL FIND SHIT IN THE TOILETS OR ON THE FLOOR.I NEVER REALLY SEEN TO MUCH OF THE BLOODY SIDE THO. ONCE I WAS SHOPPING AT THE LOCAL WALMART IN KENOSHA, WISCONSIN AND I WAS IN A STALL PEEING AND CHANGING MY PAD OK? AND THIS OLDER HISPANIC WOMEN EMPLOYEE CAME IN TO THE STALL NEXT TO MINE. SHE BEGAN TAKIN A SHIT AND LET ME TELL YOU IT WAS THE WORST DAMN SMELL I HAVE EVER SMELLED IN MY LIFE. SHE WAS EVEN VERBEL WELL KINDA.SHE MADE LITTLE SOUNDS AND STUFF. SO I WAS PRETTY UPSET THAT SHE HAD FOULED THE AIR WITH ME THERE SO I SAID O GOD THATS FUCKING NASTY. THAN I WALKED OUT AND WASHED MY HANDS. SAID SHITTING HISPANIC WALMART EMPLOYEE CAME OUT OF HER NOW BATTERED STALL TO WASH HER SHITTY HANDS *THANK YOU LORD* AND I LOOKED RIGHT IN HER FACE AND THERE WAS A SMEAR OF BROWN ON HER CHEEK. NOW THIS COULD VERY WELL HAVE BEEN JUST SOME MELTED CHOCOLATE OR IT COULD ACTUALLY BE POOP. WELL I GUESS THE WORLD MAY NEVER KNOW. BUT EVER TIME IM AT WALMART I USUALLY SEE HER AND THE FIRST THING THAT POPS UP IN MY HEAD IS THE NAME NASTY SHITTER. THANK YOU XXXOOO*~

The women I work with are complete pigs in the bathroom. I got sick of going into the bathroom and seeing piss, shit, pubes, and period blood all over the seats, so I posted a sign that said, quote, "If you piss on the seat, wipe it off" and I almost got fired for it. The HR director said it was "unprofessional." My response? "I'll tell you what's unprofessional - leaving your disgusting fluids all over the toilet seat." I consider it a moral victory.

girls probably. but at school the guys. but probably just becdause its high school. the urinal is right next to the metal stall wall, and so people always miss, and so the stall wall is all rusty and stuff. but guys stalls are usually cleaner at public places. we clean up afterwards, prolly because of the habit after "beating it" no one whats to see those nasty stains

everytime when we go shopping we always use the bathrooms but they are so nasty at the stores and they smell so bad we never seat on the toliet seats i would say that the woman should be more clean with there maxi pads and tampons and throw it away in the binds it makes it a lot easier for the next person.

I posted this earlier today in response to a similar thread by Sir Dropalong:

"Before she came to work for me, my secretary used to work at an upscale women's clothing store in the local mall. Only society types could afford to shop there. She once went into a changing stall and found a big, stinking, solid log right in the middle of the floor. Her boss made her clean it up. She was so grossed out by the thought of Mrs. Thurston Howell III dropping a load out of her designer pantsuit that she quit and later came to work for me, where we all go poopie in the pottie."

My wife will kick my ass if I even leave unflushed toilet paper at home. But it begs the question. Dear God, someone needs to have the cajones to give mandatory personal hygiene in School that scares the crap out of these social miscreants. The equivalent of the blood and gore drivers education films of the 50's and 60's for personal hygiene would be nice. Pictures of spreading germs and people in hospitals. As to the men/women thing, it is best for either sex to work on their own mistakes rather than cross-sexual preaching. Guys, honestly, we can be and sometimes are pretty gross at times!

I attended an all-women's college, but I transferred out before the end of my first year. One of the reasons I left was that I couldn't stand sharing a restroom with 15-20 very sloppy young women. Actually, they were downright disgusting. The bathroom was always very messy, always having wet counters and toilet paper strewn about. I went into the bathroom one weekend morning to find that someone had taken a dump on the floor (probably drunk). I don't know... It could have nothing to do with the fact that it was a women's restroom, but I left that school with the opinion that girls can be just as dirty, if not dirtier, than boys.

I have a part-time job in the evenings cleaning offices, emptying bins, polishing, mopping etc. One part of this job is to clean the toilets. I must say that the male toilets get blocked about once a month (minimum) yet I have yet to go and find a female toilet that has skid marks on it. Another point though is that in nearly every female toilet at work there is a coathanger either in the cubicle on the back of the door, or outside the cubicle near the sink.

Sooooo.....what're you saying? Do you have any speculations to go with your observations?

As the mother of four children--ages 5 to 14--I have been in male as well as female public restrooms and I tend to feel better about my three daughters using a public bathroom than I do my 5-year-old son.
On a few occasions I have checked out the male bathroom before allowing my son to use it! At one unattended I-80 reststop in Iowa all six stalls had urine over the seat; one had the door broken off and other had a long piece of shit over the front of the bowl and onto one site of the seat. It was a no-brainer, I took Kellen into the ladies room where he had cleaner facilities on which to sit for what was to have been his first independent (of me) public shit. However, while we were using the nearby picnic area to have sodas and stretch our legs, I noticed other young boys going in there alone! Urrgh! My daughters have also complained about some urine on the seats, unflushed toilets, and occasionally, a lack of toilet paper when they finish their activity, but they have never chosen to "hold it" or squat/piss, which I suspect is a big factor in the urine on the seats. My 14-year-old, I suspect because of her age has become the most vocal about those who treat public restrooms badly. At a concert this past summer at our municipal superplex, she was astounded when, after waiting several minutes for a stall, a woman came out with a young boy who was still pulling up his sweats, and the seat looked like it had been deliberately peed on. Josie remarked to the lady about the condition of the seat, and the replay was NOBODY IS DUMB ENOUGH TO SIT ON A PUBLIC TOILET ANYWAY! That just freaked Josie out, and altough she wiped up the mess before sitting down, she was not able to produce. What if the next person to use it was a young child who didn't know to check the seat or to wipe it off? Male or female, the issue is that many people use public bathrooms and, like it or note, some will choose to or have to sit down. Responsibility anyone?

Martina has identified some good point. As a junior in high school, I agree the condition of the girls' toilets suck and I know that it's no better in most of the public places I reluctantly use. I especially can relate to the situation with Josie. With me, me and a friend were riding our bikes in our cit's largest park and we both had to pee about the same time. Out of five stalls, four had pee on the seat; the 5th had no door and that was the one we used. The seat was black and I find that the dark color makes it harder for me to determine whether I want to sit on it or not. Sarah went first and after she peed, I did. But the "openness" and chilly seat caused me to stay on the stool for at least five minutes before I got a stream going. Even then, I couldn't completely empty my bladder. I wonder if this problem is more common than I know.

AC, I'm confused as to why two apparently bright young women such as yourselves, would not a) have put toilet paper down to sit on; b) not have staddled the seat (eliminating yourself without sitting down). You will encounter many such situations in your life and you should also remember option #3: ride your bikes back to one of your homes. Sitting on such a public toilet in the situation you've described is not very smart!

In public places, I feel women are cleaner in using the toilets BUT the problem comes when women have little children in tow and they do not properly supervise the kids. It is beyond me why any parent would allow a 4 or 5 year old girl to totally get up on and use a public toilet stool without supervision. I was at a theme park last summer at the sink washing my hands when I saw a girl probably about 4 come in alone, open a stall door and put herself on the stool LITERALLY because she ended up falling into the bowl because she forgot to put the seat down. A woman with a young boy had used the stall a few minutes before that and that is why the seat was raised. Anyway, this girl started to cry, and in looking in on her, I had her open the stall door and I helped get her additional paper towels from the dispenser to help dry her off. It took a few minutes for her to compose herself and then I put the seat down for her. When I went out with her, I found her mother nearby at a picnic table reading a novel. She had no concept of how long her daughter had been gone and what had happened to her. In another case, I was on the stool and a girl about 8 in the adjacent stall asked me to hand her some toilet paper under the stall partition because she had taken a bowel movement and then found there was no paper to wipe with. Some parents seem so oblivious and way too trusting as to what their children can encounter when they use a public restroom alone. That to me, is what's most disgusting.

I have three children. They are with me the first and third weekends of each month, as per our joint custody divorce agreement. I am convinced that the mens rooms are cleaner than the ladies rooms because there are less total persons (compared to females) sitting on the toilet seats. The urinals deserve a lot of the credit for taking much of the traffic away. That's why we can look in several empty stalls and find the cleanest and best equipped (with toilet paper, latching doors, etc.) for my sons 6 8 and 11 to use for their craps. A few drops of urine doesn't deter me from my belief because they can be easily wiped off (and many times I believe they are thrown onto the seat by the overly aggressive flushing mechanism). Fifty butts per seat per day is a lot better than four times that. That probably also explains why I see so many fathers bringing their pre-school and elementary-age daughters into the mens rooms.

I agree with what Josie told the woman with the little kids in tow who see allowed to pee over the toilet seat in the womens room. What an arrogant attitude this lady had and she accepted no responsibility for what her children had done. It's nice that Josie stood up to the woman--I would think at least some teens would be intimiated. I learned to keep public toilets clean the hard way back in 1987 when I was 8 and our family was traveling to Six Flags. I was already beginning to pee my shorts before dad found an Interstate rest area, abruptly stopped the car, and raced me into the mens room just as I was about to burst my bladder. I remember dad cursing loudly (and he didn't curse often) when we found there was a line for each of the six or so urinals. He then shoved to the left and one open toilet. I was sooo relieved to be fumbling with my penis just as the waterworks was exploding. Yes the seat was down and yes I was leaving a mess but I didn't give a damn because the relief was instant. I must have produced a steady stream for three or four minutes. It was euphoria even though initially before I had complete aim, I had gotten some pee on my sandals. I didn't flush and was flumbling to pull up my zipper when I exited only to run directly into my dad when I opened the unlocked door. He took one look inside and told me in no uncertain terms that it would be my RESPONSIBILITY to wipe up the seat and floor around it. I protested but I knew from the frown on his face that it was not open to debate. I used all the remaining toilet paper in that stall plus a large part of the roll that he made me get from an adjacent stall and it took me about 10 minutes to complete the job. All this time he stood in the doorway with his classic frown. Finally, he inspected the work--including the flusher and under the seat--and then said "excuse me, please" before he closed the door and sat down for this daily shit. I gave him some of the extra toilet paper I had left over and he was thankful. It was a lesson well taught! When we got back to the car, both my mom and sister were worried about what took us so long. But I knew I would remember what I had been taught.

Anonymous Coward obviously was impacted by what his father taught him. I was raised by a single mother who always seemed to be burdened by my needs.

I remembered being petrified by having to go into public bathrooms alone beginning at age 4. If she had to go herself, she would come in and go directly to a stall and basically leave me to fend for myself. I remember crying once when I was about five, and while trying to get up on a seat at an Interstate rest stop, I slipped on some water and my feet went out from under me and my head hit the front of the stool. I called for mom to come and she was on the stool a few stalls down and didn't. When I finally got myself up, I walked down to her stall and asked to come in, but she refused to let me because I guess she was constipated and having a hard time going. When she was finished, she finally let me in and I used the stall--all the while she was cussing about there not being any toilet paper.

My worst experience came three summers later when she and her boyfriend (who later became my stepdad) took me to a large 4th of July concert with 20,000 people in a public park. Although she stood in line with me, she became easily upset by the crowded conditions. I was a few people back in the porta-potty line when my bowel movement started to come. I waited and waited but finally the door opened and I just got seated when my diahrrhea blow so explosively that she said she could hear me outside. I looked on both sides of the unit only to find spools only on both toilet paper dispensers. I couldn't open the door to ask her for help because I would be exposing myself to others in line and it was bright daylight, so I looked down on the floor and found a strip of somewhat damp toilet paper that I no choice but to use.

Once I opened the door to exit, mom was upset because I had taken so long and the line was longer. She had to pee and was in pain and the first words out of her mouth was to bitch me out for leaving pee on the toilet seat!

Didn't I wish I had had that luxury. My son is 8 now and, while I know he needs his independence and can use the men's room, I give him a choice when traveling and in really crowded places to come in with me. Sometimes he wants to be independent and go in on his own; at other times when we're at places like Royals stadium he prefers to use the ladies room. Although I know that he is of the age to be going in on his own, my experiences tell me that I don't want to rush it. He looks small for a 3rd grader and the women haven't made any negative remarks.

Lainee, sometimes the very best thing we can do with our past is correct it by changing the future.

You sound like you're doing just that with your child. I am also doing this with mine.

Best wishes and a warm hug for those times mom should have given you one. My biggest fear was always my children being afraid to approach me. I've made that not happen. It's a good feeling. I wish you all the best.

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us women are more disgusting do to our constant anal leakage and ovarian cyst leakage. along with tampons gas cramps (from never farting around you men! ALL WOMEN ARE BORN WITH EXTRA MUCOUSY ARSEHOLES

I'm a college student who works in a 24/7 convenince store/gas station/car wash. Since our store was built about 15 years ago, customers and employees share one unisex bathroom which is almost directly behind the cashiering counter that I work at.

Female customers--which include a lot of middle school and high school students from across the street--tend to do a better job of keeping the bathroom neat, although occasionally they don't flush (or double flush) to fully evacuate the bowl. Also, those who put toilet paper over the seat leave the paper on the seat or is stown on the floor. I don't use the seat paper even if it has been left on the seat, but yesterday I found I was dragging some excess toilet paper on the bottom of my flip-flops around the store as I stocked shelves. Later when I went in and completed my shit, all the toilet paper was off both rolls and more had been strown on the floor. I just don't understand why there's so much overuse of the toilet paper over the seat. My mom taught me that you can't catch anything from a public toilet seat anyway. Why waste all that paper anyway!

Our male users a largely small truck drivers and self-employed contractors or students from the two nearby schools. With them, the biggest problem is that they pee right over the seat. Our seat, which has a full front with no cut area for peeing, is frequently fully dripping when I go in to use it. I personally touch the flusher gingerly because there have been times when I've put the weight of my hand on it and my hand's gotten wet (and I don't think its condensation!). Also the school students that come in tend to look rather unkempt (fully black clothing and baggy pants with chains and similar jewelry). It's grossest when I come in after a group of them have used the toilet because the bowl is almost ALWAYS jammed with shit--a collection of which I believe several of them have contributed to. They should be having their stools at school instead of messing our bathroom up. Also, they make very minimal purchases and curse when I refuse to sell them tobacco.

Overall, the mothers with little children that come in during the late morning and early afternoon hours are the nicest and most appreciative. They actually thank me when they are leaving and, at times, have alerted me to problems that I appreciate knowing about. Once a sanitary product was stopping up the stool and on another occasion, a mother told me that the bowl water was coming up a bit high and that I might want to use a plunger. Too often, I have to do that when I'm standing in water and in some cases, the water is running out of the doorway and under or magazine and newspaper rack display.

The question my fellow employees and myself keep asking is what can be done to get both men and women to take greater pride in keeping public bathrooms as nice as the ones they use at home. My boyfriend, who is a public relations and advertising intern, said there was a national poster/TV advertising campaign several years ago of an Indian crying when picking up litter on the side of a highway. What mascot could we use to make people of both genders care about public restrooms?

My girlfriend and I have both worked for the same company for five years. And for four years before that we dated in high school. Often, when we are out driving around or need to stop for gas after regular business hours, we go to a convenience store. Often we will use the bathroom there which is unisex.

Last night both Lisa and I had to wait because it was in use. We had to wait about 10 minutes. I had to shit; she needed to pee. While waiting, I don't remember exactly how, but we got into this strange discussion as to if it there was both a mens and a woman bathroom, which would likely be the cleanest.

Maybe because each of us had had a couple of beers at our bowling league, but were argued a bit about this. Lisa said that overall womens bathrooms are cleaner, but she still spread paper over the toilet seat before sitting down. I don't and never have. I see Lisa's views as a contradiction. I would think the average male, at most would sit down to shit once a day, or perhaps once every two days. Compared to a woman who would use a public toilet up to three or four times a day, and if she sat on the bare seat, there would simply be more contact spread from seat to seat. By my calculations, then each seat used by a woman could be three or four times more germ-laden.

Finally a middle-aged woman came out and I let Lisa go in first. I figure if you're going to be sitting directly on the seat, it is going to be cleaner if you directly follow a man or woman who covers the seat. However, Lisa still thinks the seat last used my a male would be more disgusting. Who's right?

In my findings--based on a lot of traveling and use of public bathrooms--I have concluded that women are cleaner. First, there's no Johnson hanging out of the front of the seat or bowl.Secondly, most of the women I know will use toilet paper or ass gaskets instead of sitting directly on the seat. Third, because of frequency due to their physiological makeup, women are going to be overall cleaner with themselves. (If I were going to sit down on a public toilet four or five times a day, I too, would be more careful each time I sat down!) Too many men exhibit their laziness by sitting directly on the seat without any protection. Also, wiggling their Johnson, and perhaps having it scrape the front of the bowl (potentially in such filth)is not to be taken lightly, especially since their dirty toilet hygiene may leave a lot to be desired. I believe more women are covering public toilet seats when they are first hired, but then they tend to get perhaps minimally careless. How they can follow such male skank in sitting directly on public toilets is beyond me.

I cannot believe most people on this site think women are more disgusting. In fact, that's just down right funny. Excuse me while I lawl. xD

I'm 46 and the mother of 7, ages 8 to 20. I guess I've had the belief for several years--actually longer than that--that public restrooms be they male, female, unisex, or anything else not condemned are facilities that I personally do not want to use. The worse places are large stadiums and malls, in my opinion, but ask the kids, and they will say their school restrooms. It seems the complaints about the latter increase as they progress through the grades; why that is I don't know. I've allowed my boys to go in unattended at age 6 and when they've complained about conditions, it's been unflushed stools, zero toilet paper in the entire bathroom, and occasionally in malls and at outdoor venues, toilet seats dripping with pee. Any wonder why they might want to hold their crap until our next stop? Now on the womens side, I've found the most disgusting thing is also urine on the seats. I say it's okey to bring the pre-school son in but you have to lift the seat for him. When I was taking Adam, my youngest in, I wouldn't let him pee in a stall with a wet seat, but when we would come out of another stall when he was finished, sometimes we even saw young girls on the stool, in the pee and without any parent supervision. It's a toss-up between which of the genders is more disgusting. But for me personally, it's not an issue. I hold it and know others that do too!

Well let's see first you have the eating issues. So if a woman is anorexic she is going to barf up her lunch leading to you finding puke in the bathroom. Now if she would much rather load up on the laxatives and blow it out the other end that would lead to explosive runs which then gives you the diarreah stains. Factor in the monthly periods they go through PLUS the deadly equation, its not my bathroom so I dont give a shit! I would have to say that it would ONLY FIGURE that women are more disgusting than men. I think if you remove the I dont give a shit its not my bathroom part, then you would have a much cleaner facility.
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I'm new to this site, but find many of the discussions interesting. There are parts of some of the postings that are unclear, however. For example, Mother of 7 says "When I was taking Adam, my youngest in, I wouldn't let him pee in a stall with a wet seat." WHY? Isn't a wet seat going to be a wet seat whether 1 or 5 users pee over it? Is she measuring his aim and she needs the dry seat for that? Does she think young girls, without their mother with them, will only sit in someone else's pee at age 5 or 6? At my middle school, there are girls who are in such a hurry that they will take the only vacant stall that we've all rejected, sit in the pee, and think nothing of it. I find that gross and disgusting but my brother, whose a senior and likes this site too, said it's the same way in the guys' bathrooms. What's so hard about wiping the seat off before sitting down?

women are pretty gross but why is it that all the mens bathrooms i have been in ( when you gotta go and the line is too long, opt for the mens room) have this particular man pee odor and water ( could it be more than that) on everything? it's always wet!

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all aboard the farty train to pooterville..if you can't shit at my house, we aren't friends

I agree with Mother of 7 and 8th Grade Girl that girls just coming into a public stall, and not checking or even caring, sitting in someone else's urine is disgusting. At minimum, all they have to do is wipe the seat off, although I have friends who would probably bypass the stall. My daughter is 8 and when I'm with her, I inspect the stall before she is allowed to sit down. Even when she's ready to burst--and that's more frequent than I would like to admit--I will take her into another stall rather than having her sit in someone else's pee. Most every time, someone else comes in and later takes that stall and sits in the pee. You can easily hear any toilet paper being used from the adjacent stall. Perhaps I'm over-reacting, but in addition to being repulsive and disgusting, sitting in someone else's urine is outright unsanitary, I believe.

I know a girl who hates women's bathrooms so much she shat in a photobooth in a supermarket, and in the corner of a nightclub. Ew.

The girl you know is more gross than the women who use the restroom. One almost expects to find shit and p*ss out of the toilet in a restroom. Butt noone expects to find shit in photobooths and bar corners. This is messed up.

SP, I noticed you used three letters, and only one asteric for the "P" word this time. You're getting there. I expect that in a week or so you won't need to use that black starfish key again. You can do it!

In answer to Ten-Pin Ted (02/17/07), I agree with his analysis and I would want to follow a woman in the unisex line, especially if she was going to line the seat with paper before sitting down. A woman sitting directly on a public seat 3, 4 or 5 times a day is probably not going to offer me the cleanest seat. I guess I'm lucky that my wife stands above the seat so that she has no contact with it. However, I'm like Ted, and I don't like the hassle of having to place paper over the seat.

You ought to see the men's room at the post office where I work. Shit on the seat, on the floor, ocassionaly even on the wall. I can't believe a woman could or would ever be that nasty.