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Female Squatting: An Etiquette Guide

Posted 03.25.2002 by Latrina (71)
Hey Dave!

It's Latrina, long time no talk-- I've been busier than a one-armed paper hanger, or something like that. Anyway I read this article on Salon.com and I don't know if there is an appropriate forum for this... but check it out and see:

Ladies Who Spray: If you sprinkle when you tinkle, cut it out!
by Mary Roach

(This excerpt originally appeared on Salon.com. --Dave)

May 19, 2000 | Let's say you are afraid of contracting VD from a toilet seat. You are misinformed, but we'll get to that later. What do you do? You use a disposable toilet seat cover. There. Perfect. All is good with the world.

But all is not good with the world. In maybe a third of the stalls in women's rest rooms these days (according to my desultory research), the toilet seat is liberally puddled with piss. Somewhere along the line, germ-phobic women began crouching above the toilet seat rather than sitting on a paper seat cover. Women have begun peeing like men, but they lack the courtesy to put up the seat. And since women cannot aim like men -- they have nothing to aim with -- a good many of them end up hosing urine on the seat. Very few, it would seem, bother to wipe it up.

Now when the rest of us come along and want to use this toilet, a seat cover is no longer an option, for it will soak through, forcing us to sit down on paper sopped in someone else's excretions. So we are forced to either wipe up said excretions, or stand ourselves.

There is no rational reason -- other than avoiding someone else's mess -- not to sit down on a toilet seat. You cannot catch venereal disease by pressing the back of your thigh and butt cheeks to a piece of plastic where someone else's thigh and butt cheek have been pressed. Catching VD requires direct contact. In order to catch VD from a toilet seat you would have to rub your crotch on the toilet seat in precisely the same place that someone else has previously rubbed her contaminated crotch.

To be absolutely certain, I called the American Social Health Association -- "social health" being a euphemism for sexually transmitted diseases (STD) -- to see what they had to say on the topic. I had been referred to them by an editor at Self magazine, which recently ran a piece advocating crouching above the toilet seat to avoid contracting trichomoniasis, a common bacterial vaginal infection. (Thank you, Self magazine!) But neither ASHA nor the CDC's STD hotline said they knew of any study documenting the transmission of trich in this manner. They said it might be possible to catch trich from sharing the wet towel or bathing suit of someone who's infected, but not from sitting on a toilet seat.


Okay Dave, I read this and think, "Right on, Sister Squatters who have strong enough thighs to take on this maneuver." I am a proponent of squatting-not-sitting, only because I have been too grossed out by laying a seat protector on the toilet seat and watching little yellow wet spots develop on it. Am I sitting on that? Hell no! Am I lifting the seat as suggested by the article, as a courtesy measure for other ladies? Never! You pee at your own risk and that's that.

There IS squatting etiquette, however, and it should go something like this:

  1. When squatting, the desired position to be in is with buttcheeks parallel to the seat --- but not touching. This is a great way to get those quadriceps in shape and at the same time preserve the sanctity of your bum.
  2. It's pretty much impossible to aim if you're a woman. Make sure you are making a hole-in-one by checking your stream when you first begin. You can always readjust if necessary and avoid making a mess -- a technique other toilet patrons and the janitor will appreciate.
  3. Always make sure to check the seat when you have finished and wipe up any stray spots. That's just courtesy -- you can use a giant wad of TP if you so desire, and you will hopefully wash your hands when you have finished.. and getting a little of your own urine on your fingertips won't kill you for a minute or two. At least it's your own urine.
  4. Flush. Again, courtesy. Those especially germophobic can use their foot to karate kick the handle. Or TP to flush with their hand, then quickly throw it into the swirling bowl as it flushes.

Strong thigh muscles. Germ free tushy. Is it worth it? Consider this -- the handle on the sink you are turning on and off after you pee is more chock-full of germs than the toilet seat is. But, whatever makes you feel better.

Now, pooping this way is an art. I haven't been able to do it yet -- I'd much rather just relax while Sir Sphincter does his job. I think it's pretty much physically impossible, at least for me. I have spent my adult life trying to do it and for the most part all I can do is fart weakly while the urge gets stronger and stronger.

Double-paper if you feel better. Or use the handicap stall. Or for the extremely adventurous who know the "joys" of shitting in a foreign country, imitate the French and stand on the toilet seat, squat, and shit that way. It's supposed to be great for the intestinal tract and it does produce logs that are faster than a speeding bullet.

Just be careful not to spray pee everywhere when you are done. If you make the mistake of missing, you either have one hell of a cleanup job, or a lot of explaining to do. Better make sure to give the janitor a fruitcake for Christmas.

Super Bowel (22) -- 03.25.2002

So you should call it the twat squat!

But really though, just shit at home, and use that invention, I forgot what it is called, but it is so you can pee standing up, it is somewhere in the forums.

Jonathan Akers (not verified) -- 03.26.2002

one time at work, i was poopin' and i reached around to wipe (leaning all my weight on the left side), when the toilet (which for some reason was not bolted down) began to lean over as well. To my amazement, it fell all the way over and shattered. all of my dung and the water it swam in was now all over the restroom and on my legs and shoes. i quickly ran out the back door (emergency exit) and have not been back.

nicole (not verified) -- 05.12.2002

i have been a squatter for years now, and it's wonderful. I have a phobia of dropping the deuce in public, so i haven't tried that one out, but what i would do if i had green apple splatters at the movies, i would stand up untill last minute, then squat to let it all out, that way, you dont spend prep-time squatting.

Lame comment!
Urmill (not verified) -- 09.24.2002

We females are really at a disadvantage as we cannot aim our piss and have to sit for pissing. This is seen as a submissive posture by males. I have the experience of my boyfriend pushing his cock in my mouth when I was sitting for piss.

Toilet Filler (not verified) -- 02.16.2003

I know a girl who, on a several day long 'band camp' (its a cliche but they do happen) where the loos weren't all that clean, said that she even hovered over the seat without making contact when she took a dump. She also held it in all day and then set her alarm for 3AM so she could go when there was no-one around. This is impressive bowell control, bearing in mind she picked an exact and unusual time of night to go and was still able to 'powerpoop' it all out before her thigh muscles gave up.

Jane W (not verified) -- 04.19.2003

I was using a search engine to find some information and through a miss spelling I came across this site. I was both amazed and relived to find a forum where such matters could be so frankly discussed.

I am a 35 year old english woman with my mother right from a child instilling in me not to sit on toilet seats so I have many years experience of ‘hovering’.

I work for a large financial institution and when I visit the ladies room if possible I like it quite with no one else in there. Wear a company two piece suit my routine is I take my jacket off and hang it on the back of the door, pull up my skirt around my waist, push my knickers down to about four inches above my knees, thus allowing me to get my legs as far apart as possible whilst keeping my knickers well away from the works.

Now being tall and long legged and not lowering myself very much when I’m over the toilet my urine has a long way to travel so at times it makes a tremendous splashing sound when it hits the water this is one reason why I like to be alone in the toilets, the other being, if I’m doing gallons I tend to gasp/grunt a little about mid way through the process. We do have a young lesbian girl in the office and often find when I come out of the stall’s she’s there doing her makeup I suspect she ‘gets off’ a little on the noise.

Its been refreshing to be able to relate some of my toilet habits and I do hope its of interest to some of your readers [if it is I may post another account].

Ronzique (not verified) -- 07.23.2003

I appreciate the honesty of the women who admit that squatting over toilets is not always as easy as it sounds. Strong thighs and good aim are the key. I remember talking to a young woman who was very open about her bathroom experiences. She told me that she would squat for over a half-hour dumping loose turds because she never sat on the toilet, even if she was weak, and I asked her if she very tired after that. She told me that she was, but it was important that she did not make contact with the toilet seat while constantly dispelling soft, loose stools. Also, I appreciated what Jane W. was saying about being tall and long-legged and having difficulty squatting low over the toilet to demonstrate the dilemma of tall women using public ladies rooms. If I ever marry a woman, I would make sure that if she gives birth to a girl, that she will teach her how to protect her body as she grows up and confronts germs. Hopefully, she will teach her to squat. But what if she passes on during childbirth and I have to raise the girl alone? It makes for an awkward situation, doesn't it? I don't know if I can toilet train her, let alone teach her to squat. I may have to marry another woman who, hopefully, will instill this in my daughter. It's amazing how the growing germ problem has forced more than half of prime-of-life women to protect their bottoms, which is good for all of us, not just women. You learn something new everyday!!!

Lame comment!
Matthew (not verified) -- 10.07.2003

No comment

Poopies (not verified) -- 10.24.2003

Just sit on the damn toilet bitch. It's not going to kill you. This is ridiculous. If it bothers you that much, keep a bottle of the Purell hand sanitizer stuff that kills 99% of germs on contact, in your purse, put a squirt on some toilet paper, and wipe the seat with it first. Then not only will the seat be clean, but you will also sanitize your ass when you sit on it.

poopy (not verified) -- 11.18.2003

guys, what do u do with ur dick when u shit?

The Shit Volcano (3740) -- 03.02.2004

I'm a toilet hoverer, and I don't always do it because the seat is clean. Usually I don't see the point of sitting unless I have to crap, and even then I can hold my ass cheeks open so poo doesn't smear on them. Kiss my ass, Poopies!

Squatter all the way baby!!! (not verified) -- 04.04.2004

i squat through and through, and have even managed to grasp the technique of squatting whilst pooping! its a fantastic method, as you dont catch all those icky germs left by others (i mean can you really trust where other people's bums have been?!?!), and your thigh muscles become so much stronger and toned!! all in all, you can't loose.

Jonesy (not verified) -- 08.04.2004

You mean women shit, too! Oh, God! Now all my fantasies will be shitty.

Ronzique (not verified) -- 03.16.2005

Yes, women can drop the bomb, too. I fantasize of them being WWII B-17 bombers dropping stools and air-raiding toilets...just like men. I mention B-17 bombers because (if you look at WWII movies) the planes had pictures of pin-up girls painted on them, and were even named for women. This is how I fantasize of women having huge turds or loose stools, especially if they squat over the toilet, and particularly if they were shorts, skirts, or dresses.

Me (not verified) -- 04.25.2005

You need help. All of you.

anonymous (not verified) -- 04.29.2005

do you poop yourselves?

Squatter Virgin (not verified) -- 10.18.2005

humm...i was looking for info on using the toilet in india and came across this...hummm interesting are all you all mad! ... going to the toilet is a chance to sit and relax...why worry about germs, and strengthing your thighs etc....just sit do your business and leave...easy as that!

William Hung (not verified) -- 01.19.2006

What really suck is when you're a dude and your junk takes a dive when you sit down to squeeze one out. I don't care so much about a little dried piss residue on my ass cheaks, but Jesus... I don't want my dick hanging in there with all that shit.

JustSomeGuy (not verified) -- 03.12.2006

Ooh I knew it !!! It's the WOMEN who make the seat wet and spread the rumour that men are jerks who can't lift the seat while taking a piss. And one word to those obsessed with being infected by germs : You'll just weaken your immune system if you think like that. It's perfectly normal and necessary to come into contact with bacteria on a daily basis and develop your own immunity. I never needed any anti-biotics in my entire lifetime. And then piss is sterile most of the time anyway.

Anonymous Coward (not verified) -- 03.12.2006

Whatever you do... dont put hand sanitizer in your ass. :0

The Dumpster (2505) -- 03.12.2006

"If you sprinkle
When you tinkle,
Please be neat,
Wipe off the seat!"

Bunghole In the... (432) -- 03.12.2006

If you hinkey dinky parlez poo
While in the crowded dinky loo
Don't be a scurvy stanky snatch,
For others' sake please light a match!


"Odor in the court! The judge is eating beans--his wife is in the bathtub counting submarines." Author Unknown

Kevman (not verified) -- 07.31.2006

I like the thought of the lady splashing so loud. wish i could hear!

peeman (not verified) -- 03.25.2007

when i poop i hold my penis down

8" penis rests on seat. Not a big deal! (not verified) -- 11.02.2007

For the retarded men who posted here... IF your dick touches the seat or drops into the water (which I highly doubt) then put a few layers of TP on the seat and rest your theoretically huge PUD on it and quit bitching. Hold it safely down to piss, and then rest it back there again.

The Thunderous ... (687) -- 11.02.2007

Yes Mr. BIG SCHLONG but you should ALSO keep your dick hairs trimmed too because that can redirect the piss causing you to piss in two and three multidirectional streams thats why WE sprinkle when WE tinkle. We being men that is.....
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The Thunderous Crapper 63 Enjoying home toilet advantage since 2004!

bb (not verified) -- 11.02.2007

I just hold my dick downwards so it do not touch the front of the bowl. You cannot rest it on top of the toilet seat as one commenter suggested, as you pee a few times while crapping. And to the guy whose pubic hairs are long enough (or penis is short enough) that they obstruct his urine stream, i am sorry for you!

BathroomSkyper (not verified) -- 11.18.2007

I luv it when I can get out in the garden at someone else's house and do it - preferably somewhere with a large garden and lots of grass. I push my ass out backwards and usually put my pants down and on the floor, though I have done it where I've put any obstructing material to one side! I shall have to try the finger method though!

Guess Pee reporter (not verified) -- 04.16.2008

The "pre-sprinkled" seat seems very common in the public ladies room, as does the general workaround of hovering, but most womem don't lift the seat when they do hover. What would wmen thing of seat that raised itself ifnot being sat on? This would greatly encourge hoverers to pee with the seat upannot even bave to touch a dirty seat. Irealize this smacks of the old argument of having the men put the seatdown after peeing,but it might be practical never the less,

Guess Pee reporter (not verified) -- 04.17.2008

Guess Pee reporter (not verified) -- 04.16.2008 (not to Dave - I did the original on my PDA, which is not anything like a full screen and now I look at it, there were a number of mistakes in typing. I'm sorry I didn't see them on the small Palm, but would you mind replacing my previous text with the much better one, please? Sorry for the trouble, but I felt inspired to write it when I did.)

The "pre-sprinkled" seat seems very common in the public ladies room, as does the general workaround of hovering, but most women don't lift the seat when they do hover. What would women thing of a seat that raised itself if not being sat on? This would greatly encourage hoverers to pee with the seat up and not even have to touch a dirty seat. I realize this smacks of the old argument of having the men put the seat down after peeing, but it might be practical never the less.

greenpoopertrooper (335) -- 07.29.2008

this site has branched out. cool.
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I will never shit somewhere that only has that horrible, scratchy brand of toilet paper. That stuff sucks!

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