Women Peeing Standing

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Any of you ladies here on PoopReport will no doubt be familiar with the
Raunchy Restroom problem. You're at a concert or a club, or even out hiking,
and suddenly the need to pee arises (as it is wont to do, from time to time).

So you exit the dance floor in search of the ladies' room, and you're
confronted with a horror of a choice: the stall where someone obviously was
having technical problems with their pissing equipment (because there's a
mess all over the toilet seat), or the toilet with the broken flush that
people have continued to use, and use, and use... practically to overflowing.

It's not a pretty sight, and not a pleasant concept even to bandy about in casual
conversation. However, it's an all too common problem.

So you're faced with three equally unsatisfactory choices: attempting to
eliminate the mess; trying to hold it in until you find a better bathroom;
or working out those gluteal muscles and squatting so that your rear is just
hovering over the toilet.

These choices all suck. But luckily for us
ladyfolk, more than one enterprising soul has devised a handheld gadget
which would enable a woman to PEE STANDING UP.

The TravelMate, from The Woman's Guide On How To Pee Standing.

As a woman, I
acknowledge that learning how to pee standing is certainly something that
would come in handy on a number of occasions, and would be rather impressive
to boot.

That's why I'm relieved (heh) to have discovered
The Woman's Guide On How To Pee Standing.
They offer advice on two methods -- the natural way ("The Finger-assist Method") and the easier way ("The TravelMate-assist Method").
According to them, both methods are PRACTICAL -- "No more
hovering over filthy toilet seats or getting poison ivy on your bum!" VERSATILE -- "There is the 'device-assisted' method and the 'device-free' method." And last but not least, IMPRESSIVE -- "Amaze yourself and your

If that's not enough to convince you that women should pee
standing, read the accolades heaped upon the TravelMate device. One woman
from Long Island states, "I can stand up and pee outside with the best of
them now."

I'd probably be willing to use the
device in desperate circumstances, but I'm not sure I really want to picture it
being used. Too late, though -- the site contains a far-too-
graphic depiction of a woman making use of the TravelMate. I really didn't
need to see how "Brenda 'pees through the fly' using a TravelMate." I think
I'm going to have nightmares, after I stop rolling on the floor laughing.

The disposable P-Mate.

But watch out, TravelMate -- because you've got a
competitor. Cleverly named,
The P-Mate is a paper device
specially shaped to enable a woman to pee into a narrow vase,
or a nasty toilet, or out in the woods where the Pope does his business.

be honest, I think it's a pretty good idea, and the P-Mate has the advantage
of being disposable (at least I hope it is -- eww. I'm not putting it back into
my bag, that's for sure).

So men beware, because next time there's a line
for the ladies' room, we might be invading the men's room. Though, from what
I've heard, I don't want to go in there ever.

227 Comments on "Women Peeing Standing"

Towering Twyla's picture

I agree with Gertrude. School toilets are filthy in schools because of the few that stand and squat. Few do it well and the splashes and other neglect cause the problem. First of all, I lift the seat. Second, my butt is within a half inch of the bowl rim. Third, I flush so if the next user is a hard shitter, my piss is not going to be splashed onto the seat.

By the way, I also shit from the same position and have since I was in middle school.

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So AC, you are shopping at Macy's and your girlfriend feels the urge so you drop to your knees to enjoy her golden nectar. Do you go in from the back, or front? If from the back are you distracted by her asshole's smell? Are the other shoppers entertained? So many questions!

Dirty old men need love too!!

How long a minute is depends on what side of the bathroom door you're on!

Anonymous Coward's picture

My girlfriend never has to worry about finding a place to pee since I enjoy drinking her urine. UM UM Good!

I <3 peeing upright's picture

My boyfriend finds it sexy that i can pee standing up and purposely comes in while i pee to watch before we have sex he is aroused and the sex is good but its kinda disturbing

Andanism's picture

Women are so anal about leaving the seat up because number one, it's rude, we shouldn't have to put it down for you, I'm sure you're a big boy and can do it yourself, and number two, sometimes in the middle if the night when you're half asleep, you may not notice that the seat is not down.
Falling in is a very rude awakening.

Otherwise, it just makes the bathroom look bad when you walk in there and the toilet seat's up.

sd5's picture
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I'm going to try the finger method for the first time tonight. Kinda worried I'll get pee on my fingers though, but I guess I'll get better with practice. It'll be cool to be able to pee like a man!

Anonymous Coward's picture

You should go for it, my wife has been using the finger assist method for years, its cool using the urinal!

Gertrude's picture

I want to try to pee standing, but im to scared to use the finger assist method at school when the toilets r filthy Should i squat or try and see what happens? please help me!

Anonymous Coward's picture

I saw my mom peeing one day, it was first thing in the morning and she walked past my bedroom door, which was open, naked from the waist down and entered the bathroom. I made the excuse of putting the kettle on(kitchen was near bathroom) and when I walked past she was squat standing having a pee and saw the pee leaving her pussy which was bald it was also open as she had spread her pussy lips.
I love watching women peeing, any age over 18 of course.

Anonymous person's picture

this was a horribe article

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Dear AC, You will be able to answer that question yourself in a few years when you are old enough to see an actual pussy.

Eat chilies and feel the burn!!

How long a minute is depends on what side of the bathroom door you're on!

Anonymous Coward's picture

do all women spread their pussy lips when they pee?

Holger's picture

If a woman is naked or wear a skirt, it is surely no prblem for her, peeing by standing. But what is the matter, if she wears a pair of trousers? If she open her zip,the urine is coming in the slip normally, or a woman is a specialist in peeing. Want to see pics, where I can have the counter.proof.

Anonymous Coward's picture

I want to pee quickly, cleanly, discretely and conveniently so standing works for me. I can use three methods: 1. The finger method. It does NOT require more muscle strength. It's all about learning how much to spread the lips and where to angle the hips. 2. Device. I carry around the P-style which is reusable (get over it! pee is sterile) -- http://www.thepstyle.com/ and also disposable p-mate -- http://www.pmateusa.com/. They work great and I can zip in and out of a public bathroom. I'm not sitting in some other girl's pee. My pants aren't dropped on the floor of a filthy public bathroom. And it's quick. With either method, I can also aim in a toilet so the pee doesn't hit the water just the side right above the water, therefore no splash back! This also lets me pee anywhere like on the side of the road on long drives, on hikes, etc. without baring my butt to the world. No hunting for a public restroom that's disgusting anyway. Also, with these methods, generally there are few or no drips so you don't need toilet paper. In can also pee completely standing up over a toilet. Just stand up, raise up your skirt a bit (more if it's a longer skirt), or lower your shorts/pants, lean forward, and the pee goes straight down. You won't believe it until you try it.

Whoever decided that women should pee sitting down was made a big mistake. Standing up is the way to go.

I think poo is really gross so sorry everyone on this site. I do that sitting down, inside on a toilet, except when I'm camping. But I'm a wild and crazy girl who pees standing up, outside, too. To each his own.

Anonymous Coward's picture

that is hilarious, imagine getting mad at them for pissing all over the seat...LOL the tables will be turned

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Jody (not verified) -- 12.27.2007

Jody Foster?

Rockchic's picture

im a high school girl who just started pissing while standing. it is quiet hard to judge where your piss hole is and where to put your fingers but after a while it becomes easier. i dont have to wipe my vagina just the occasional drip on my inner thighs when you dont push hard enough at the end or forget to stop abrutly.
this is how i do it (in trousers):
1) choose destination to piss and go there (toilet/sink/shower/bath/bush/etc}
2) pull down trousers to about knee - you may want to go lower for toilet or higher for sink or bush
3) depending on chosen piss destanation either pull down pants to height of trousers or pull to the side out of the way of the vagina
3) create an upside down V with your index and middle finger and gently seperate the flaps of skin around the vagina - you may choose to place your thumb under the tip of the skin flaps for more control
4) aim at piss destination and use your fingers to push or pull as needed to guide your piss into or onto the destination
5) piss being careful not to piss to fast (it may cause splash back) and remember to keep a steady but strong flow through it
6) when you feel you have done stop abrutly
7) wipe yourself if you feel you have to (i dont) and pull up your pants and trousers
8) remember to wash your hands

if anyone has any advice for me or tips on the best places to have a piss plesase leave me a comment :D

Rockchic xx

ChiliKahKah's picture
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Far too much information

Anonymous Coward's picture

As a female, I think it would be way easier to pee standing up. GUys have it easy. THey just whip it and go, but us girls have it hard

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Yeh, PD, you mispelled hornies.
...And their flesh like dung. Zeph. 1:17

...And their flesh like dung. Zeph. 1:17

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I had a car tailgating me yesterday. All I saw in my mirror was a pair of horns. Did I spell something wrong?

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I saw you yesterday Daphne. Did you see me wave half way?
...And their flesh like dung. Zeph. 1:17

...And their flesh like dung. Zeph. 1:17

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P.S.... Mullet...

Spelling Nazi.

.....hugging bunnies since 1969

.....hugging bunnies since 1969

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Sorry, Bilge. I missed an a!

If, when you see me in the rear view mirror of your car, I'm missing my arm, or leg, or half of my head, pretend you don't notice. It's better that way....

.....hugging bunnies since 1969

.....hugging bunnies since 1969

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I'm not completely sure if BM's comment was supposed to be funny...but it's 12:45 am here, so I may be missing something obvious...
The Original Grasshopper

The Original Grasshopper

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Gorn! Upím, daph!!
He's havin' a go at your typo!!
US translation: Go on, get up him, i.e. put him in his place; chastise him; he's mocking your typographical error.
*giggles like a schoolboy*
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The white zone is for loading and unloading only- FZ.

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Daph, what's "triva"? Is that the new "tolet"?

The proper order is kiss me, then go smell the other dog or cat's butt. I cannot stress this enough.

"One of the founding members of the Front Page Hyena Pack, and runs as its alpha male when the urge strikes him, which is often." Daphne (one perceptive chick)

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Thanks for clearing that up Daphne...demons seem to also use rather poor syntax in their writing. Well....I'm off to the tolet to flog my whanker till it bleeds while pretending to be smart. Retirement is boring.

Eat chilies and feel the burn!!

How long a minute is depends on what side of the bathroom door you're on!

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Actually, many demonologists have written that demons are known to be intelligent in some ways but are notoriously bad spellers. It has something to do with the fact that they are imperfect and therefore must be incomplete in both body and mind.

That was your totally worthless triva for the day.

.....hugging bunnies since 1969

.....hugging bunnies since 1969

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Shows how much you know there Beelzebub. I just checked my wanker and it's not bloody.

A little drippy, but not bloody.

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Well Satan.....You certainly scared the shit out of me, I always thought that fallen archangels were better spellers and wrote more sensibly.

Eat chilies and feel the burn!!

How long a minute is depends on what side of the bathroom door you're on!

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ah, thanks for clearing that up, Satan...uh...what are Tolets? Genius. No wonder you got cast out.


The proper order is kiss me, then go smell the other dog or cat's butt. I cannot stress this enough.

"One of the founding members of the Front Page Hyena Pack, and runs as its alpha male when the urge strikes him, which is often." Daphne (one perceptive chick)

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I think the good doctor ment Tolets, Bilgepump I don't think its any of your bloody business where Dr. WHO got a degree from, or is it your call if he can write his name in snow! What bunch of bloody wankers! another Penn and Teller web site how nice more Bull Shit! to read from people that think their smart but they are not in any way or form.

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Dr. WHO?...HMPFF. Lets see you write your name in the snow. Let's see you arc one into the urinal from 10 feet. Can you do that? I think not!

Dogginberg Esq.

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Dr. what are "tolits"???
Where is your Doctorate from? The University of Bottomofacrackerjackbox, perhaps?


The proper order is kiss me, then go smell the other dog or cat's butt. I cannot stress this enough.

"One of the founding members of the Front Page Hyena Pack, and runs as its alpha male when the urge strikes him, which is often." Daphne (one perceptive chick)

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Just to let everyone know that pee is not dirty at all and is very clean. Also the travel pee-mate can be washed out after every use. Also I have seen many women and girls pee standing up all my life its nothing new. Women have been standing and peeing long before tolits came about from roman pluming. I think every woman should stand and go pee hell if a guy can do it then a woman can, men are no better then women are.

PeeStandingWoman!!!'s picture

I pee standing up - I'm a girl. Its easy. Get your legs round the toilet and point your vagina

the incredible pee's picture

@ kileymalia:
Sure, keep trying and getting better. I've seen Internet posts from many women who were discouraged at first when learning to pee standing, but kept trying and eventually got much better at it - some women actually learned to pee through the fly of pants, with no assistance from artificial devices needed!

kileymalia's picture
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kileymalia!!! ive tried its funny funny stuff. when i tried peed myself it least in shower. should i try again


sittingpretty's picture
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I might lose my balance while peeing standing up. Then what? Fall in pee, no thank you.
...And their flesh like dung. Zeph. 1:17

...And their flesh like dung. Zeph. 1:17

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Bran Lover!!! Bran Lover, we are going to learn how to pee standing. Chief! Thanks! Bran Lover, we have a job!!!
...And their flesh like dung. Zeph. 1:17

...And their flesh like dung. Zeph. 1:17

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standing anon.....Congratulations, you have been selected by the Doggin/Thunderbutt Institute of Skidology to take place in a research project. Our staff of highly trained individuals will be over tomorrow to observe this finger assisted peeing method. We will bring our own sandwiches for lunch so you don't have to go to any trouble on our behalf.

Eat chilies and feel the burn!!

How long a minute is depends on what side of the bathroom door you're on!

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Chief, I'm smelling a DTI research project here.

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standing anon.....I am intrigued by your comment, can I watch? Do you get piddle on the finger you use? Do you wash the finger before you make your BF a sandwich? So many questions!!

Eat chilies and feel the burn!!

How long a minute is depends on what side of the bathroom door you're on!

standing anon's picture

i use the finger assist method and i am better at aim than most boys. i am going to continue peeing standing up.

anonoumsly wierd 's picture

it is possible in other ways to pee standing up. grab the back of your pants and pull them up past your vagina. and then you can just let it go. try practicing at home first

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Peeing in the" sink"(lavatory) is unsanitary. The "sink" drain will start STINKING like old male pee after long term use. I don't want to brush my teeth over a pee sink. Do you? Now I did it in college out of sheer necessity, but I sure wouldn't do it in my own bathrooms. Once that pee smell gets stuck in a bathroom, only a flood can wash it out. This is a true story.
...And their flesh like dung. Zeph. 1:17

...And their flesh like dung. Zeph. 1:17

Anonymous Coward's picture

I too have found it difficult to try to use the above mentioned products, but I grew a liking to the Whiz Easy.

ChiliKahKah's picture
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To each their own !

Laura Smith's picture

Hiya all

I tend to stay up most of the night at weekends, playing online. My Mum would call me a naughty girl, but what she don't know wont hurt her. The problem is, no matter how many supplies I take in to my room, she will know I am awake if I come out to pee. I have tried knocking on the bathroom door evertime someone is in the loo/bathroom saying, hurry up it's time for me to get in the shower (this looks funny if I have already had a shower that day) based on 'WhyUseAToiletWhenGrassWillDo!' sugestion, but when I broached a shower pad in my room, I was told 'well see!', so that does not sound promising :(

I have on several occasions peed out of the bedroom window, because there is only a few foot drop with me being on the ground floor. I even did a poo out of it last night, because it is straight into the roses and I just scooped some soil over it this morning. It's my patch of garden there anyway.

With it now being the early hours of the morning, I have decided (having read this site a few times before) to bite the bullet and try a wee wee forward. I would jump out the window, but I will scatch my self (and possibly stand in my poo) trying to climb back in!

At least I have a lock on the door, because my room used to be the bathroom (ironicly) until they swapped, because my disabled sister is getting big, but stil thiner then me! Damn bitch, lol (only joking, I love her really).

She gets all the fun, even though she is fully compus mentus she has NAPPIES for if there is no one to help her onto the loo (I can do it, but she does not think I am big and string enough for her to trust me) and she just puts them on by sliding down her jogging bottoms/panties, puts her elbows on her arm rest and pushes up with her feet as best she can. She did it the other day behind the shed in our garden, and did not even flinch when a neighbour came into the garden! She may have got straight A's in her GCSE's but I don't think she has grasped the subject of 'exhibitionism', unless she has and wants to be one?, lol.

I will wait until I have done it before I post so that I can give once the deed is done so to speak ;)

I suppose this was not really peeing standing up because I was knelt on the chest of draws by the window sill. I tried to use my hand to hold the nighty up and aim, but after one splash I had a wet nighty and wee on the sill and down the back of the draws :( Hope it don't smell, oops

I took the nighty off (so I was naked bay my socks) and this was better because I could support myself with one hand on the wall and the other on the job itself. Over all a good field test, and I will try again.


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Hi all!

Well, me, my lad and the girls are always out and about when their Mom is at work. I too have had a similar idea, because it is getting difficult to justify my eldest daughter pulling her pants down at the side of the road at Eleven. Not that she cares, but a person told me politely a few months ago, that 'someone might look!', lol. I'm not really sure why someone would not look, but hey, it seems to be the culture to hide nature away now :(

I have bought a small camper van so there is plenty of privacy and I use a little thin card from a teabag box or whatever to make a funnel with a wide triangle opening at the top. If we're not near the car, well my son will go anywhere, obviously! The girls however can undo their jeans zip (keeping the button closed and the jeans up) and put it in and underneath so they can pee like a boy! They all find this both amusing and convenient. They definitaly do not like public toilet seats, but if they have their way they will all pee outside anyway. I spent ages looking for a public loo a few days ago, and they all waited till they were done to point out that 'theres one over there!' as if they did't know, ha.

If we're in the van then I get my son to use the device as well, because I don't want him to miss the bottle or pot (whatever is free) but I would not buy a specail bottle because you can just empty it out the window once you have finished. I would be lying if I said this method had not saved me from time to time as well, and last week, on our way to a picnic, their Mum even found one of my funnels convenient when we pulled over and she felt it was too open for her to pull her jeans down.

I found the device that I make (or something similar) can now be bought comercaily. One version is aptly called the shewee (www.shewee.com) and probably costs a forthune. For a little time and imagination, with no cost, you can keep your sons and daughters away from dirty toilet seets, your daughters BUMS away from dirty prying eyes (it's only natural to look at kids cute bums, but in this day and age, its probably polite not to put people in that position of feeling that they will get acused for admiring whats harmless :{ ) and your sons/daughters wee wee will be in the bottle, rather then on the van carpet!

Hope this helps, get the Blue Peter badges out, hehe

Sensible Dad

ChiliKahKah's picture
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My friend pees in a a Big Gulp Cup! I am not kidding, I am glad I do not drink Mountain Dew as I might make a mistake as to which was her "cup" and which was my drink!

Anonymous Valiant's picture

Yes sir, I like it.

PilotJB's picture

I have five daughters and they all pee standing.
We went to the Central AMerican rain forest and they learned then and still pee standing

RPL's picture

I know how to do the finger assist method and my boyfriend knows that too, and the method really works!!!

Anonymous Coward's picture

I found that the cloak room has a drain in the corner. I have seen two boys pee in it and asked one if that was what it was meant for as the boys room is right next door! It was an interesting story actualy,

The first boy said there was an extension built and the drain used to be outside for the rain. He said he should not use it but they let the younger boys use it on playgroup days because they cant reach those things boys use in the boys room that look like have a loo on the wall. All the girls in the queue for the girls saw because the girls room is right next to it. He said he could not wait for the queue to the boys so went up there. I used it after him in front of all my friends and they thought I was great ;)

Another day I went myself aftr I had ledt a lessn to go pee. It was most liberating. A prefect copied me when he saw me. Then I touched his nilly! He even had hair and everything!

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Grass will do, what is a snog. What country are you in that every bedroom has a shower pad in the corner and freedom to pee in the woods while at school?
...And their flesh like dung. Zeph. 1:17

...And their flesh like dung. Zeph. 1:17

no name's picture

i think its cool to be able to pee standing cuz sometimes theres blood on the toilet seat and i really dont feel like sitting on that or wiping it off

Anonymous Coward's picture

How much are the funnels? Please tell me!

Anonymous Coward's picture

I am not whatever you called me cause you are!!

WhyUseAToiletWhenGrassWillDo?'s picture

Greenpoopertrooper... I hate that scratchy stuff too!

Since I started my new school I no longer have the proplems that a lot of others here have, (there are two main reasons for this which I descibe below) but I have found that lots of girls think me odd that I am not afried to show myself, if you know what I mean.

Reason 1 for not having a problem at school, I have found that lots of the older pupils (all boys who do this so far, except the teachers) go up to the wooded area behind our school to pee (the boys even have peeing compititions there) so I think in this time of equality, I should be able to do the same. Early on a few of the boys tried to touch, and all looked! (I don't mind the ones who watch) I now sometimes walk to other areas (to get away from that), where I have have seen a few teachers do it (one boy, two women, but one teacher saw me and she ran the other way trying to pull her panties up). When my brother is around (peeing in the school woods) he stops other boys looking too much (so I can pee free! YEAH [unless they pay him a chocolate bar, but I hit him when he did that, even though I found it fun to be watched (and I was filmed on a mobile phone, like late night telivision, sexy (whatever sexy really means))]) but he is going to another school soon :(

Reason 2, There are several drains at our school, which can be used like boys use urinals! In three of the rest rooms there are about four stool/partition thingys, and at the last one is always a drain where any water (the tiles on the floor run down towards it) can run away. I do not have to sit on a stool to pee therefore because I can put the soul of a shoe on the bowl and lean back against the wall. I sympathise with those above who spoke of pee running down their legs, I just take my pants off, pee, and use the tissue to wipe my legs! I have found it better since I found this site though and started to aim with my fingers. Thanks everybody ;)

I use other drains as well, although these are (starting to seem) contraversial. We have a corner type shower in every bedroom at my house. My brother and parents don't hesitate to use mine for a wee if they are playing cards or something with me. I sometimes go into their rooms to speak to them and happen to pull down my pants and wee in their shower, there has never been anything strange about this to me. I thought this was normal until a new friend was round, and whilst she was talking to my brother and Dad, in my room, I used the shower pad to pee. I was shocked at how quickly she got excited, and she soon asked if she could pee in the shower! I have since had other friends want to come round just to pee with my brother in the room!

I use he showers at school to pee just because my lessons work out that way, i.e. we always walk past them. The first few months of the first term I made excuses to go the other way. But now friends hold my panties in their pocket for me while I nip in the shower, or stand where the water comes off the roof down the pipe and into the ground, just asking that I return the favour (i.e. Hold their panties in my pocket whilst they do the same). In fact, for most of them, it seems like its all a big deal, where I until now at least, have always been happy to pull down my jeans or pull up my skirt anywhere, like the park for example. They are saying that I should not do that. I know my Mom hides to do it at the park or where-ever, and now I think I know why. My brother and Dad are slightly less shy, but the garden is still the only place I feel I can pee in front of a stranger (there are two public footpaths running throug my garden) without feeling that it is not normal now. We should make it law that every park and street corner has a section of grass to wee on, then people would stop being embaressed.

One last thing, a boy (who is about a year younger then me at school) who had the pee film on his mobile, came up to me the other day and asked if he could be my boyfirend. Mom says I am too young to have boyfriends, but I seem to be too young to do anything fun, so we went to the woods at the other end of the village and he seemed to think peeing was outside was fine too. After he came back to mine for tea, and he was not afried to use the shower, and I even got my first proper snog!

We both agree peeing outside is much better, it is closer to nature :)

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Then why in the fuck are you bothering to post???? Jeezuz......

The proper order is kiss me, then go smell the other dog or cat's butt. I cannot stress this enough.

"One of the founding members of the Front Page Hyena Pack, and runs as its alpha male when the urge strikes him, which is often." Daphne (one perceptive chick)

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ugh,no comment is suitable
I will never shit somewhere that only has that horrible, scratchy brand of toilet paper. That stuff sucks!

The Original Grasshopper

Anonymous Coward's picture

Roflzzz. That is the funniest thing I've ever seen! A WHOLE book on how to pee standing up! I should buy this book and give it as a gift! That's be the day!

Guest Pee reporter's picture

Great questions, thanks!
I've not seen either of these, but would love pix/video of these or links thereto.

I have seen women's "toilets" in Japan where there is an open channel down the middle of multiple partitions where the woman squats and pees or poops. This channel has water flowing or flushed through it. There is no closuer on these stalls, so those passing by can observe the user from the side.

I welcome more discussion on this, thanks.

the incredible pee's picture

Guest Pee Reporter mentioned different kinds of toilets for peeing in different countries, so I wonder if he or she could answer this:

Do you happen to know how common stand-up urinal troughs in women's restrooms are in certain parts of Italy? I've definitely heard they exist, but for all I know they could be rarities.

I think I also heard on some site about a pool restroom (in France, maybe?) that had a trough-type urinal for multiple women to pull aside their swimsuits at the crotch and pee standing into. Sounded very convenient. But that might have been incredibly rare too.

 Guest Pee reporter's picture

Thanks, TSV!
Shall I add some more to it? There's a lot more I have learned about women peeing and men too. Anyone interested?

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The above comment should be its own article. It's a PR in itself.

Born right the first time.

I found Jesus! He was behind the sofa the whole time!

Guest Pee reporter's picture

What's the point of women standing to pee?

This topic is into it's 7th year now. Most of the discussion is beneficial, but clearly some don't get it. The position women pee from is entirely up to the individual woman. The principal point of this discussion is to let women (and men) know that women have options when it comes to how they pee. Almost every valid point has been touched on through the years here:

  • it is an option to deal with messy toilet seats,
  • it provides options for outdoor situations where no seat is available,
  • it can provide access to additional facilities such as urinals,
  • it can reduce the amount of paper consumed and the trees needed to produce it - such as for seat covers (butt gaskets) and additional TP used to wipe seats,
  • some women have reported that they don't feel the need to wipe when they have peed standing,
  • and it can greatly reduce the contact with contamination on surfaces that don't have to be contacted if you don't seat.

The use of urinals can significantly reduce the need for valuable water resources - some urinals don't use water at all.

Some have suggested that God intended women to sit or squat, but God hasn't made a definitive proclamation on that topic. Let's examine a few facts we know about women peeing:

  • In regions like Russia, toilets look similar to the western style , but without the movable seat ring. The woman lowers her pants & panties to about her knees, backs up to the front edge of the bowl, bends deeply forward which helps her butt protrude over the bowl rim, then pees and poops as needed. Most who pee only, don't wipe at all, just hike the clothes back up and leave. The public facility is seldom provided with any TP, and if she chooses to wipe, she pulls out a small paper patch, like a Kleenex or paper napkin, wipes, then throws it in a basket beside the toilet. Many never flush after peeing.
  • In Japan they use a unique fixture commonly referred to as the squat toilet. It can be used by both men and women and is used for both peeing and pooping. It resembles a miniature bath tub but at the forward end has a raised half dome. This dome shields and collects the spray of pee from leaving the toilet. The rear end is shaped into a point. This point is usually extended beyond the raised floor that surrounds the flush-mounted fixture. This can be used by men to stand and pee with the point between their legs to catch the drips and drizzles. The women straddles the fixture with her feet on either side and squats down on her ankles, then pees and poops. Typical Japanese women will take 5 – 6 feet of TP to wipe and she does this twice typically. The TP is just dropped into the toilet and flushed.
  • In other areas of Asia another form of squat fixture is common. This one is a rectangular shaped plate, mounted flush with the floor, has a peanut shaped or oblong opening in the center with formed foot treads on both side. The woman squats over the hole to pee and poop. The fixture maybe a hole in the ground, or a flushable fixture.
  • In the 1950s American Standard made a female urinal. It was installed in some gas stations and other public facilities, but was discontinued when it was never accepted by most women. There have been several other inventions of female urinals, but to date these don't seem to be as widely accepted by women or the building designers.

Some well-meaning comments above have instructed that any woman can pee standing easily, she just needs to do it “right”. This can be frustrating and demeaning to women who have tried, but found their pee going in places and directions that are uncomfortable to them. It is unlikely that any woman who finds her pee stream running down her leg, spraying outside the toilet, or drizzling into her clothes will feel like this is an adventure worth continuing. The reality is hardly any man or woman understand just how different women's vulva's vary between women. As we know from observing faces, they all have the same identifiable features such as mouth, nose, eyes, ears, cheeks, etc.; but every face is different in it's total appearance. Each of us looks different. Same with vulva – each is different and perhaps more then most people realize. Some of those variations include the location of the pee hole – some are closer to the clitoris, while others and further inside the vagina; the flap of skin that protects the outside of the pee hole varies in size and shape and can make it difficult for women to find their own pee hole; the angle of the pee tube leading to the pee hole can determine which direction the pee leaves the hole; the inner lips can vary greatly in size and shape – some small, thin and smooth, while others can be very large, puffy, fleshy, protruding outside the outer lips; and the outer lips and be small, smooth, even shaved or large, protruding, and hairy.

These are just a few of the variations that directly effect the flow of pee from the women. Some women have a stream that shoots directly out forward, while other's stream can flow to the rear, and others can't help but spray, and still others have a stream the wonders from side to side during a pee event. Many can have multiple streams emerging from their lips. Yet others find – or don't even realize – that some of their flow goes along their butt cheeks.

We commonly think that pee standing for women means standing up straight, just like man; but for some women, their urodynamics just don't flow that way. So we must include other stances that work for them where they are still able to avoid direct contact between their bodies and the fixtures in our acceptable pee stances. This should not be an excuse for women not to try various techniques and to spend the time and number of tries to determine which will provide them with the best choice of positions to use.

Women need to find a suitable place to practice without adverse consequences. Showers and bath tubs where she can be nude and easily wash the errors off are good places to start. A private area outside can be useful as well. Some showers maybe too small to spread her legs wide enough. An adjustable mirror can be helpful in seeing just how the stream is behaving and make real time corrections.

Take your time to experiment and don't be pushed into someone else's ideal of how it should work for you. Enjoy yourself -- this can become fun and in a little time you will likely be glad you expanded your options to pee.

alternatepeemethod's picture

There is actually an alternate method for urinating standing up. www.whizaway.com
This device is created with an Antibacterial and Hydrophobic material. It folds up and spring sback into shape and can be stored easily. The antibacterial properties do not degrade over time. Its shape, a lily cup shape is used to fit the human anatomy. This company has created other devices that allow for the dignity of patients in the hospital and should be recognized for their good work. Other than being made of a material that is easy to clean and that maintians hygeine by virtue of its properties, it reduces the amount of waste produced by using a disposible item. Furthermore for outdoor enthusiasts who are interested in keeping down the weight of their packs, carrying around one as opposed to carrying several of the disposible gadgets.

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Bilge, I was going to post a delicious crab cake recipe for Cristian, and I think your green stuff will make a WONDERFUL sauce.

Julia Child

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but what about that greenish looking pus like stuff leaking out the end of my weenie...thats ok, right?

"One of the founding members of the Front Page Hyena Pack, and runs as its alpha male when the urge strikes him, which is often." Daphne (one perceptive chick)

Cristian's picture

Aside from Crabs there is nothing that you can get from a little pee on the toilet seat. You will see crabs, take some toilet paper...wipe the seat before you sit and tada, you are free of worry. Now, if there is WET blood, you need to worry. Dry blood doesn't carry anything. Here are the facts people. So, wipe, sit, wipe, wash.

Thomas Bailey's picture

I heard that the reason women have inadequate restroom facilities is because the architects and planners are men, who are clueless about women's needs. Many sports arenas before the 1970's would have the right male/female restroom ratio for the crowds who then attended the events, but would be entirely wrong now.

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Uh, Tracy thats not a watermark you tease.

Tracy's picture

The younger the child, the better the chance that squatting peeing will result in some running down or splashing on the inner thigh. I don't think its any different with guys I date who sometimes (actually pretty frequently) come out of restrooms with watermarks on their shorts or pants near their crotch. The difference is though is that most of us will have lifted the seat first or at least have wiped it off before we leave the stall. Guys, you can't say the same thing!

Standing Sarah's picture

Unlike Maddy, I don't sit to pee at school and other public places. I squat. The problem is that I sometimes lose my balance and occasionally, I get an ache in my left knee that I injured in softball last summer. However, may be once or twice a week I need to wipe my inner thighs because sometimes my pee flow just trickles down my leg a little and then I just sit down and go that way. However, in answer to turdfan's question, the only wiping I find necessary is that trickle. When I'm seated, no wiping is necessary and unlike Maddy, I don't wipe the seat off if I'm going to be sitting down. It's useless and just plain stupid, I think.

turdfan's picture
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Maddy, you could have answered my question while you were posting here anyway!!!! Thanks for nothing.

Maddy's picture

I don't wipe after peeing at school. There's only 6 minutes between classes and I might be the 5th and last person to be able to use the toilet and still make it to class on time. Sometimes there are a few trickles in my white underwear but I don't mind. I do however do one thing that many of my friends don't. I use a sheet of toilet paper to brisky wipe the seat off before I sit down. Don't ask my why. It's just the way I was taught and I always do it. While we don't have the seat tissues to put down at school, we have them at the mall where I work and I like them.

turdfan's picture
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Why do you have to wipe after peeing and/or what is there to wipe? I don't remember that part of a womans anatomy very well, but I assumed that you probably just spread your lips while you were peeing and this would keep everything clean. Hate to be stupid, but I'm really curious. Thanks for your feedback.

Strand, Russia's picture

Different countries has differents customs.
Greek Historician Herodotus (the 5 century BC) did wrote about a custom of Ancient Egypt where women urinate standing but men urinate sitting. Unlike the Greece and Europe where were another way: women urinate sitting but men urinate standing.
In Russia the standard way is:
Women urinate sitting but men urinate standing.

1)Sometimes, There are cases where women urinate standing in a shower during nude bathing procedure in a bathroom. Under a shower she urinate standing and she do not care about her legs are soiled with her mud,her urine A shower's water did clean her legs from the mud, the urine.

2)Sometimes, There are cases when men\ women\chilgren have a bad behavior and during a rest in a swimming-pool or a river they did not go to piss to a toilet but they did urinate through swimming suit \trunks into waters of a river and with the bad behavior they did soil a river with the mud, the urine..It's not good behavior.

Anonymous Coward's picture

i am 17 and have been taught to pee sitting down on a toilet. But lately eversince the age of twelve i have tried to pee standing and it is hard for my to master. I love going outdoors and my boyfriend just whips it out and goes and pisses me off cause i have to squat to pee usually somewhere else.But the p mate that i bought helped that and my bf thought that it was hot. I have ordered a travel mate and i am hoping that this will be better. also it is cooler for me to stand, well in my mind, because i am kinda butch so it all works out. Anybody who wants to try this, good luck, i would suggest using a device, but you will eventually be able to master the finger method, or even just unzip and go.

Kaitlyn's picture

"My wife swears by hovering and thinks I'm commiting some sort of dirty deed by having contact with a public toilet seat." Well, Mike, it's just the reverse in our house. My husband of 8 years is so fastidious about using a public toilet that he'll hold his pee until we get home rather than using a urinal in a large facility or even standing and using a toilet stall. Occasionally, I will pee standing and that is usually when there's urine on the seat, but otherwise I sit right down, do my thing, wipe, and then wash my hands. Occasionally, when there's been the toilet seat protectors available, I have tried them, but I find them to be more trouble than they are worth. I guess I believe that a need so common as peeing should be as hassle free as possible. And I'm not making it any more complicated for our daughter who turns 5 next month.

Minnesota Mike's picture

Although I'm not a fan of the Wisconsin Badgers, I do know that although they won't always be willing to admit it, a large number of guys sit down in public to pee. My wife teases me about it--when we're at a football or hockey game she's the first to do her thing and come out--while I'm still in line for a stall. I just don't like using those long rows of urinals and haven't since my future wife was buying New Kids on the Block recordings. I sit down, completely empty my bladder and don't have to worry about the splashback from the urinals or the perverted old man next to me sneakingly taking a look at my organ because I have one hand on the flusher and the other on the front wall. On the other hand, my wife swears by hovering and thinks I'm commiting some sort of dirty deed by having contact with a public toilet seat. If anything, it adds some diversity to our marriage.

Badger's picture

Me and my girlfriend have differing opinions on this. We are both in college and enjoy reading PoopReport.com when we're together. Neither of us are probably normal in the way we pee. Since I started middle school at age 11 about 10 years ago, I switched from urinals to the toilets. I was teased because I was holding my johnson with two hands when peeing, and a couple of other things. Then I switched to the stalls. Again, because I was underdeveloped for my age, I was teased and blamed for the urine on the seat (It was already there!) So I started to sit down to pee and I've been doing that ever since. My girlfriend, though, when she started high school switched from sitting down to squatting. It works for her and I'm glad but I don't see anything wrong with the comforts of sitting right down. Also, I some of the public toilets I use being seated results in less pounds on the door and remarks when I lines are longer.

Emiline's picture

I'm 14 now, but when I was younger I was so scared about sitting on the big public toilets. From the front at least, they scared me. So my mom taught me to sit sideways and to grab onto the toilet paper holder if I needed support. I was doing that when I first started grade school but found that most of my friends were sitting normally over the front. So I changed and as I got confidence, I learned to pee standing up. It's great and it's faster, although at first, I didn't have the flow going strong enough and the pee would sometimes run down my inner leg. Occasionally, when babysitting, I'm out with a three year old. It sucks because she is just like I was and scared to sit over the front of the big seat. So when we're at the park or such a place, I sit her over the back of the stool so she can hang onto the flusher and plumbing while see pees facing the back wall. It gives her so much more confidence. A couple of my other friends who babysit have tried it also.

lovely3@live.com's picture

I think it would be hot to pee standing up. I should try. I pee sitting backwards on the toilet. I only have like 3 times though.

2prnot2p's picture

I think it's cool for women to pee standing, despite the challenges. Very sexy!

Jody's picture

I started using the travel mate when I was only 5 and now I am 10.I remember when I was 8 and I was in my new school and had accidentilly gone into the boys loo but was to desparate to go into the other building and used the travelmate in the urinal and there was this really hot boy using the one next to me and he just stared at what I was doing and when I finished he asked if I wanted to be his girlfreind and of course I said yes and we kissed in the boys bathroom.I only told one of my freinds this but they where all teasing me for 3 months.

the incredible pee's picture

To the above poster: There was an old forum mostly dedicated to discussion of women peeing while standing, and there were women there who helped each other on solving problems like yours. Perhaps if you read through the posts people made on it, you might find the aid you're looking for. ;)

The forum is gone now, but each of its pages can still be found and viewed through the Wayback Machine. Here's an index to the pages: http://web.archive.org/web/20030411112742/www.restrooms.org/archives.html

(P.S. I was the first "Anonymous Coward" who commented on this page, if anyone was wondering. I actually think I posted this same link further up a long time ago, but it doesn't go to the right place now because the original restrooms.org site isn't online anymore.)

Anonymous Coward's picture

I would like to learn how to pee standing. I go hiking a lot and it would be so easy just to piss on a tree rather than have to pull my panties down! I have tried the finger method before and I find that although most of my stream arches out away from me in a nice golden fountain, some of it trickles straight down and lands on my pants or underwear. I wish that I could find some stand-up peeing women to hike with and they could demonstrate their technique! Do any girls out there who have mastered this talent have any advice for me? Perhaps my piss stream is just not forceful enough?

Kirsty's picture

usually i sit down while peeing but i have just strarted to pee standing, right now i use the shower, and so far i think its much easier to pee standing

Miranda's picture

At 17, I agree with Di. Sometimes the standing works, sometimes it doesn't, and besides it takes too long and sometimes hurts a little. Also, once I was at a football game and the seats were gross so I stood and was having some success, until water from another toilet which was on the floor caused me to lose my footing and I feel onto the seat. It's just easier for me to sit down. I don't even wipe the seat off first any more. I guess I just don't need the hassle and I'm going to shower at the end of the day, anyway.

the incredible pee's picture

By the way, Tricia, you're awesome.

More girls should be like you, in my opinion, and try out the standing method.

Di Verticula's picture
m 1+ points - Newb

What's the big deal about sitting down to piss on a public toilet seat? Just wipe it off first, Jeeze. I've had too many failed attempts to pee standing to give a shit anymore about unsanitary public toilet seats. Except, of course, the ones found in Penn Station, NYC. Something about that bathroom that gives me more heebee jeebees than others I've visited. I have, on wasted occasion after partying the woods, successfully peed on the ground. It's easier because you can squat lower and don't really have to "hover" and try to aim like over a toilet seat. Only real challenge there is not peeing on your shoes or pants.

sexy hot tricia's picture

I bet lindsey didn't even try my advice
:( You should try the thong 1 first :)

Sitting 4 Sure's picture

Sexy Hot Tricia lays it out pretty clearly on how to pee standing up in various scenarios and Belinda brags it up that I should believe "There's an art to hover peeing and dumping that isn't fully recognized." I might only be 15, but I have to ask what about having your finger directly on your vagina for the aim AFTER it has been in contact with the restroom and stall doors and latch and hopefully, as Linsey says, the seat as it is raised? I'm far from a germophobe and regularly sit on public toilets, but what's being gained by standing isn't clear to me. Just sitting down continues to make more sense to me.

the incredible pee's picture

"I just don't see the advantages of peeing standing and the "disadvantages" left behind for the normal users."

What about what you just mentioned - avoiding pee on the seats?

Sure, people shouldn't get it on there, but the fact is that they often do, and an advantage of peeing standing is that you could avoid sitting in it.

Sitting Male's picture

Yes, I agree with Linsey. My girlfriend occasionally complains about pee on the seats, especially at our high school and when we are at concerts at the Metrodome. However, I would like to bring a male perspective to the discussion. At least once or twice a month when I try to shit at school, I can't sit down and I need to find another toilet because there's a complete leg of shit over one side of the seat, or as was the case yesterday, a long log of shit hanging over the front of the bowl and extending well into the bowl. Our school doesn't have enough janitors to carefully watch for such gross and atrocious acts that might be done as a prank, but I fear are done by some misguided boys, who literally think it's normal to squat over a public toilet in order to shit. I worry about the young, developmentally-impaired freshman or child of a teacher who might be in the building and who will forget to look before sitting. It won't be a pleasant experience!

Linsey's picture

Tricia may be "sexy and hot" but in all of her advice, she left out one important thing: lift the seat before you start. Frequently at school, I go to sit down and pee and at the last moment, I notice pee on the seat. I doubt it's from a mother bringing her young son in there. I'm almost 14, and just having started high school, I find there's pee on the seat every couple of days. I've always sat down and probably always will. I just don't want to sit in someone else's urine. And having to tear off toilet paper and wipe pee off the seat isn't very pleasant. I just don't see the advantages of peeing standing and the "disadvantages" left behind for the normal users.

sexy hot tricia's picture

Hi I'm tricia and I just started to pee standing I find it really hot and nice . I some times were thongs and do it without taking my thong off
Steps to do it
1 go to a toliet
2 pull your pants down to about your knees or below
3 reach between your legs for your thong
4 once found thong grab it with your fingers (in the middle) and pull it to the side to reveal your vagina
5 hold it there
6 push your vagina forward
7 watch your vagina
8 hold the thong in 1 hand and make an upsidown V with your fingers
9 place the fingers on the area around your vagina
10 pull up and outward so your vagina can
Pee in a strait stream
11 pee!
12 wipe but I' dont really do that ?)

Another way with a thong is
1 go to a toilet
2 pull pants down
3 grab back of thong and pull forward so the thin part is about right next to your vaginas pee hole (works best with bigger thong)
4 slightly pull the thong to the side aim pussy and pee!

Now with a dress or skirt
1 go to toilet
2 lift skirt or dress
3 grab the front of thong or panties and pull all the way back so you see your pussy
4 aim
5 pee!

I'm in middle school so the girls room gets packed sometimes so I go in the boys (sometimes)
1 time all these girls went in and I didn't get a stall so I went into the corner pulled my thong to the side squated and peed on the ground luckily no one saw me though...
I also remember when I was running the mile and had to go BADLY so I ran behind a bungalow and pulled my shorts down pulled my panties to my butt and peed I told my friend but no one saw me well than I onetime had to go so badly and it was halloween time so my teachers hall pass was a jackolantern so I went with my friend and as we were walking I had go so badly I RIPPED part of my thong off (actually so the part sheilding my pussy) trying to take it off (wore a short skirt)and my friend took me outside while I peed into the jacko lantern then I poured it out and took my thong off (I was bear bottomed after that) and walked to the class I think I got my seat a little wet but my pussy and butt were so cold and the seat

Okay by oh and ill post later

— sexy hot tricia

Not Embarrassed's picture

Belinda, you seem so high and mighty that you haven't sat on a public toilet for 10 years and you can't understand, even though you hover/squat or whatever you seem to call it, why you get blamed by the NEXT user for what was left by the EARLIER user. Why not just wipe the seat off before you leave the stall. That way the parent with the young child, or in my case, a high school student who isn't afraid to sit right down on the seat, doesn't have to do it. Last week I had a big shit at the Kum 'N Go before I walked across the street to my school. It clogged the toilet. On my way out, I told the clerk and she was very thankful. If everyone tries to help out, there shouldn't be a problem. Duh!

Artful Dodger's picture
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Amen, Thunderous. Those special ladies are absolutely fabulous.

A long time ago I was assosciated with a woman that not only dared to pee standing, she once tried to write her name in the snow. I think I wrote about it on the forums once.

Blameless Belinda's picture

I have not sat directly on a public toilet seat since 1997, the year I graduated from high school. Like many of the other posters, I got good at hovering and I use it for both peeing and pooping. There is one drawback, however, and that is when the next user comes in, and it's a really public and heavily-traffiked place, I get blamed (dirty looks, a mom apologizing to her pre-school daughter "We'll have to find another toilet honey,that lady was sure as messy as a pig!" and similar comments) which should all be directed at the previous user because my aim is right-on. I flush with my foot but since I don't use the seat, I'm not about to lift it or wipe it since I didn't contribute to the problem. There's an art to hover peeing/dumping that isn't fully recognized.

The Thunderous Crapper 63's picture
k 500+ points

I feel that a woman who can accomplish this ranks right up there with women who drive pickup trucks and motorcycles. Women who can fart and poop in front of their S.O's without missing a beat. A woman who is comfortable with who she is and tells the world This is who I am. Dont like it? Too damn bad! These women ROCK and I might add a few times have rocked my world. To those ladies I thank you!
The Thunderous Crapper 63 Enjoying home toilet advantage since 2004!


Sadee's picture

I've just started school here in the U.S.. I agree with both Roxie and Taffy. The problem is with the few girls who squat over the toilet to pee, but they miss and, because they haven't lifted the seat, they leave a wet seat for those of us who sit down to pee like normal people. Also, before taking a shit, no one should have to choose between using the last piece of toilet paper for wiping the seat off or wiping themselves. On too many occasions at school, I have skidmarks in my panties because there's not sufficient toilet paper because it has to be used to wipe the seats after the squat pee-ers get done.

Taffy's picture

I agree with Roxie. We're into the school year and very few parents seem to have taught their children to use public bathrooms properly. I'm a high school senior and I feel the conditions in the bathroom have gotten worse each of the years I've been in middle school and high school.

First, I don't pee standing. I sit down. To me, it just makes more sense. However, one morning when I got to school at 7 a.m. for music practice and my McDonald's coffee was already going thru me, I went in to pee. All eight stalls had unflushed shit in the bowl, two had peices of toilet paper hanging on the seat, and one had pee over the seat. To me, it's gross to have to wipe somebody else's pee off the seat in order to sit on it and pee. Why more students can't flush when they are done is something I'm trying to figure out. I lean back and flush just before I get up off the stool. It's not that hard. There are a few girls who pee standing up but they don't remember to lift the seat and they don't have as good of aim as they think.

Why more students can't pitch in to keep the restrooms clean I don't know. I guess they haven't been taught right by their parents.

Push n Clog's picture
m 1+ points - Newb

well, I'm a guy, and I'll never be able to find out how women view this whole pee-standing up thing overall, but I think it can be useful in situations mentioned as such above... there are just times when peeing standing up is so much more sanitary, convinient, fast, and effective...

oh yeah.. not to mention writing your name in the snow. hehe

To clog or not to clog...
too late - already clogged.

My dream: to design and build the ultimate shredder toilet that will never, ever clog.

Roxie's picture

The issue for me with a daughter who is 11 and a son, 10, is how to go when they are away from home and in public places. The sink, toilet, bathtub options in the debate are largely extraneous to us who just want our kids to be able to go quickly and with some degree of cleanliness; the latter being difficult since both women and men are notorious for waterlogged seats for the next user.

It doesn't matter what store we're at when shopping but when my son needs to sit down and crap, he often complains about the amount of pee he has to wipe off before being seated. Once at Sears, he said somebody else's pee was even dripping from the flusher and one side of the stall's partition.

My biggest concern this past summer has been my daughter. We've been traveling and out a lot every day. Two out of every three times we've encountered urine on the toilet seat (and at one rest stop in Kansas, a log of crap on the seat). I wonder if more women are teaching their children to stand to pee, but not demonstrating the finger work necessary to get the pee into the bowl. Why is it so hard to teach them to simply lift the seat before going? My daughter, although I've demonstrated the proper procedure for her, says hovering hurts her and she has decided to continue sitting down. However, since starting middle school last month, she says she avoids the stalls with the wet seats but is surprised at the number of her classmates that just go in and plop themselves down in someone else's urine.

As for me, I've been peeing standing in public bathrooms for more than 20 years. With the school year just starting up, I would think this is a good time for parents to visit with their children the options that are available. Apparently, too few are doing so.

Jayne's picture

http://www.gettingit.com/article/123 says in the first few lines that the army concluded that Women can't pee standing. I do wonder if they meant that women should have the choice.

Also I just tried peeing in the sink too, and it is practical, but I agree that the story you found was probably made up by a pervert Woman Reading!

Woman Reading's picture

The 2nd to the 9th paragraph are from another forum, hence the quotation marks

Hamster's picture
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Thunderous - you are a better person than me - I couldn't be bothered to read such a long post which appeared to repeat another one. I imagine you are right in your conclusions.

The Thunderous Crapper 63's picture
k 500+ points

hmmmmm I read the above and I find some things pretty disturbing here. First of all you say you are a woman reading however you sound male. Equally disturbing you have a boy 11 and a girl 10 and you STILL let them bathe together. BUT EVEN MORE DISTURBING than any of that you manipulated your daughters vagina????? And she had a grin on her face??? While I think this story is made up as part of someones sick twisted fantasy, I also find it disturbing that someone MIGHT allow something like this in their home. I dont know maybe I am too anal about propriety? What do you guys think?
The Thunderous Crapper 63 Enjoying home toilet advantage since 2004!


Woman Reading's picture

I recently read the following post in another, very similar thread. Whilst I felt it was probably made up, it stired mixed feelings. Either way, I liked the part about using the sink and I now do (even in public toilets). As for the rest, I am not even going to think about it until I have kids of my own. Here is the thread (obviously written by a man):

"When I first started typing this post I was going to just say thank you etc for the help. After I started typing however I realized that I should leave a longer message for two reasons: Firstly to encourage more men/women to pee in the sink and secondly to encourage more moms and dads to teach their boys/girls to pee in the sink. I put a lot of detail in as I hope others will find it useful if/when they are in the same situation. Also I am practicing my speech writing technique so this is a useful opportunity there too.

I too think that the hygiene issue is a really important one. I also think that saving water is important. I was taught as a young man that flushing a toilet unnecessarily spreads germs (the toilet water becomes an aerosol). I therefore pee in the bathroom sink, but never a kitchen sink, as that would defeat the object. This way I am able to wash the pee away with the tap for a moment and then wash my hands. This technique is also good because it uses less water then flushing most loos.

I have one boy and one girl who I bathe together. A few months ago I taught my son Mike (the eldest at eleven) to pee in the sink after their bath. He had just become tall enough to reach the sink if he stands on the scales. I explained the reasons why to him. His younger sister Sophie (who is nearly ten) was quite curious about the issue and that’s why I discovered this site. You see I wanted to know if girls could pee standing.

After discussing it with their mother I decided that it would be interesting to teach Sophie to do the same, if for no other reason, then just to help the environment! We have had a recent water shortage in our area and the water is metered. I looked at a few other web sites, which offered advice on technique for girls to pee standing, so I started to formulate a plan.

Now I realized that for girls the first ‘standing pee’ can be quite messy, so I decided that she was going to start in the bath (even though Sophie is already slightly taller then Mike), and move on from there. I knew that she was going to need to touch herself, and I thought about drawing a diagram, or getting her Mom to demonstrate. As her Mom works nights it was not practical to enlist her help and a diagram seemed too confusing.

So Thursday night I explained the issue to Sophie whilst the Kid’s were in the bath. When they had finished, I took Mike out to start drying himself whilst the bath water drained. I then asked Sophie to face the plug hole and put her feet shoulder width apart. I was sweating at this point because, stupidly, I thought that touching her down there would make her feel uncomfortable. I explained in a soft voice that I was just going to show her how to hold her kitten. Before you ask, this is the name her mom uses for it when with her, which is fitting I suppose as she has grown a few fine blond hairs recently.

I used my right hand to stroke her shoulder to relax her whilst I showed her how to hold herself. I firmly placed my index finger on one of her vagina lips and my middle finger on the other. I spread her lips out and inserted my thumb slightly (about one mm) at the top of the slit. Whilst I did this I was shocked to see a cheeky big grin appear on her face, but in hindsight I suppose that is nature. I gently eased it up and asked her to pee.

At first it splashed slightly but I manipulated my fingers until we had a golden stream of wee (it was not easy cus she giggled a lot). I explained how she could aim by moving her hips side to side and her hand up and down. Mission accomplished! I told her that tomorrow I would teach her how to pee in the sink, and then I demonstrated (which Mike had also just done ;) ).

The best thing is that the next morning, when my wife came home, Sophie got up about the same time. As I went to greet my wife in the hall she took my arm grinning (I had discussed the issue with her the morning before) and she pointed into the bathroom. There was Sophie, without even the scales, peeing in sink. When she came out of the bathroom I praised her and then her mom gave her a proud cuddle. Mike must have heard the commotion because he then followed me into the bathroom and we used the sink together.

Well that’s the story of how I taught my kids to pee in the sink. My only worry now is should I tell them not to show their friends at school. I want others to learn the idea, it is so practical, clean and even environmentally friendly etc. I am worried however that the teachers might not see it the same way. What do you think people?"

Like I say, probably made up or something?!?

Comfort Queen Carolyn's picture

I would rather sit on a public toilet seat, even if it wasn't the cleanest, instead of peeing in a urinal that is part of a larger line of such devices. There's something to be said of privacy. At 30, sometimes when I'm shopping my legs get tired and its restful to sit down for four or five minutes and pee. And on occasion, I'm able to get some bowel action going. I have the same opinion as Dirty Donna expresses above. It seems people go to the extremes to avoid the inevitable. The water and soap of a shower stall can take take care of the rest on a daily basis.

Just me 123's picture

I have seen videos of women using men's urinals, and they do it exactly like the men. Don't know why the women's rooms don't have rows of urinals.

Also, what's the big deal about having unisex restrooms where women pee standing right next to men? The mechanics are exactly the same; pee squirts out a hole from between the legs. If restrooms were unisex, then lines for women would be a thing of the past!

Anonymous Coward's picture

is it possible to pee or poop while having sex?

Taller Yet Chick's picture

I'm 4-inches taller than Tall Chick and I also get looks from other stall users because I tower over the stall partitions when I squat pee. While I haven't had that obnoxious remark like "You're stall or mine?"

I do avoid using a stall next to a young child. I've had several occasions where the young child will call out "Mommy, Mommy..." and when the mom comes to the stall, the child gets off the seat and opens the door and whispers (not well, however, because I hear it!) about that "big,tall, huge" lady that's standing.

What people have to understand about us big, taller people is that it's uncomfortable to sit on the stool because most public stools are way too low for us and its very awkward and uncomfortable to be "on" the seat. In some stalls like at the mall, my knees are practically touching the door because there is so little room.

I believe I learned something in a college pre-law class a few years ago about "equal protection under the law". The reference is to the 14th amendment. I don't believe big and tall people are in fair situations when public restroom partitions and doors are as low as they commonly are.

My grandmother talks about "old-style" toilet booths where the partitions and doors go all the way to the floor and are also much higher. She says that I wouldn't have liked the toilets as a child because they were higher up, but that many buildings had lower toilets for children. The advantages that she used to explain it with were the privacy and additional room available.

Hamster's picture
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TSV - being unorthodox, you will probably appreciate this - it is the opposite take on this thread. For some years now I've had to take a leak during the night. I can do it half asleep, and go straight back off again afterwards. But can't put any lights on. It works perfectly if I sit down to pee - no need to worry about aim, splashing, or anything else. So practical!!

Tall Chick's picture

I'm 17 and 6'l" tall. The past few months I've switched to peeing while standing in most of the public restrooms I use. And between an almost full-time job and a summer school class, most of my peeing is away from home. It may be just the luck of the draw, but in the bathrooms I'm using, my height really makes me conscious when I pee and, although I don't try, others in adjacent stalls are looking up at me and they seem suspicious about whether I'm looking down on them. Today, I was at the mall, I took the first stall because it was more isolated, and while I was peeing, a middle school-age girl came into the stall on my left, was preparing to sit down and saw me, and just left without going. Last week at the stadium in a similar situation, a woman in her 30s sarcastically asked if I was "being turned on". My friend Mary said I should have replied: "Your stall or mine?" I hope I'm not becoming too self-conscious about this.

Love 2 pee's picture

as a girl,I love standing 2 pee.
I need to practice.
And all the boys on here now we are equals.
And 2 the girls practice
with the shower on and make sure no one walks in.I love camping so this will help me alot.
also i have tryed the finger methode it works but not as great.

Neighbor's picture

Like you, Addison, I also babysit and it involves taking two children to places like movies at the mega-plex. Yesterday, I had my two girls there for a movie. I had the middle stall and they each had a stall on the side of me. To my east, a lady who was probably in her 30s or 40s came in, real fast, latched the door, I could hear her put the seat up and there was a lengthy popping and splashing, but her head and shoulders were easily visiable to us. Megan thinks she actually pooped while standing. All I know is that she wasn't in the stall two minutes and had washed her hands and left by the time I got done peeing. I know that some people pee standing up (I think it's hard and gross!) but do I now know about squat pooping also?

Addison's picture

I'm 13 and just getting started with babysitting. It is my responsibility to take Darcie out a couple of times a week when her parents have to work late or go on a business trip. When we've been at the zoo and circus in recent weeks I've noticed that she does something different. She stands over the toilet and pees without sitting on it. I've always sat down. Darcie is 9 and says she's been doing this for a couple of years and that her mother is even better at it. My mom just sits down normal like me.

Nicole S.'s picture

I am A MUSLIM, and I would rather pee sitting than splashing my legs, clothes and the toilet floor. I would not even do it under the shower, because that is sick and not fun. I think that men should also pee sitting whenever they can if they care to keep thier body and clothes 100% clean.

Mother of 13 year old girl's picture

when my daughter was seven we learnt peeing standing up. We practiced in the shower and she was able even to pee with the pants on, just opening it like a man does.
Now she is 13 years old and her best friend does it the same way. They are really happy to have learnt it.
Thanks for spreading this technique - it should be done more!

Anonymous Coward's picture

I've just learned about the finger method and I don't know what everyoneis fussing about. I got it first try and it feels great! Can't wait for winter so I can pee my name in the snow. WHOOT!

D-Piss's picture

Okay, here is a great solution on expanding women’s restrooms in concert halls, movie theaters, stadiums, and other large venues where so many of them have to wait in long lines. In one, two or three of these major cities, one of those venues should rebuild the ladies’ room. Take those doggone couches and lounge chairs out of that area and build plumbing there. Install and wall or two full of urinals like in the men’s rooms. Let them have the divider between urinals (not latch doors like stalls).

After reading numerous articles about women can pee standing up (with and without any devices) and how many have done so is some surveys that indicate that over 80 percent have used men’s urinals, this is an opportunity to put it to the test. Take a crowded venue. It’s intermission, halftime, or the seventh inning stretch. A lot of women are standing in line with their bladders about to explode. If the women’s room have a wall of urinals and the toilet stalls are full while they are waiting, the power of suggestion (empty urinals = no waiting) will make women go to those urinals in this dire emergency and use them. The lines go down immediately. Those that don’t want to use the urinals can wait on the toilet stalls.

As more venues rebuild women’s restrooms and install more urinals, more women will know that they are available and can plan their outings accordingly. They can practice peeing standing up at home in the shower or bathtub. The female-oriented television channels and magazines can let women know that there is a solution. Women can insist on having urinals installed by petition, e-mail messages, to building contractors, owners of public establishments, “Potty Parity” legislation, and so on. Take a quote from a baseball story: “Build them and they will use them.” Now let’s see women using urinals in the movies like they show men using them.

Curious.About.Life's picture

Here's a poll on the very topic of women peeing standing up...hopefully it will serve as a good resource for women just like this site. Thank you :)


Brittany's picture

First of all. I believe this discussion has deviated from the original idea of women's urination devices... I think they are a great idea! In fact, I'm buying one!!

I've always wanted the freedom to stand up and urinate! Not have to undo all of my clothes, pull them down, wrinkle them (if they are good work clothes), worry about urine or water on the floor or dirt... Worry about STD's on the toilet... etc... Yeah, a piece of thin paper is really going to be much of a barrier. I don't really know how much it helps... Then I'm always worried of it tearing when I sit. Then I'm always worried about my pee not flowing into the toilet if i'm using one of those stupid sani-toilet cover paper things because the hole doesnt drop out, its attached to the inside... I worry if the pee will flow toward the front of the toilet and onto my clothes. UGH. Damn traditional toilets and NO WAY AROUND MY ANATOMY!


Dirty Donna's picture

I agree with Mother of Twins. There are some real wacko people out there. I feel some of the extreme behaviors are passed down from generation to generation. without anyone thinking to question why something is done.

I was one of the poorest (financially) in my school. Although we lived in public housing, I went to a nice school nearby. Many of the girls in my graduating class ten years ago would hold it until they got home rather than urinate at school. Like Melody, in an earlier posting, our school only had the pre-cut squares of toilet paper than were stored in a small dispenser--similar to ones for napkins in the cafeteria. Initially, as freshmen, many of the girls would spend five minutes or more putting these little squares of toilet paper over the seat. It wouldn't be unusual to put a dozen or more down for what would be, at most, a 90 second or two minute pee. And the lines would get longer and longer for the eight or nine stalls on our floor. One classmate, who was a couple of years older than me, put about four or five pieces down and cursed when she found the dispenser was out. She got pissed and got into line for an adjacent stall. I immediately took advantage of the opportunity, pulled off the tissues, and sat down for my pee which I totally completed in less than a minute. I used one of the squares to wipe with, got up, flushed, opened the door, and there she was waiting with a fist full of tissues. I put the three or four I had not used in her hand as I walked over to the sink.

Later that day in the hall way, she asked me how I could be so "dirty" as to sit down on the uncovered seat. She seemed startled when I told her I thought she was neurotic (a term I had just memorized in General Psychology class)and then I heard from friends that she was calling me "Dirty" Donna.

I found it amusing later that year when I saw she was not suiting up for PE and was on crutches. A friend told me she had tore a legiment trying to squat straddle a toilet when there was not enough paper available.

Even now I feel comfortable sitting on a public toilet seat because I know that within a few hours I will be showering. The most important thing to me is to do my best to keep the toilet clean and to make sure I wash my hands. I've taught my two elementary school sons the same thing. The youngest, Josiah, even at age 5 two years ago, protested so much that I let him start going into the mens rooms independently. Like me, he believes public toilet seats were meant to be sat on. Period!

Anonymous Coward's picture

Come on-give me a break! What next-pooping while walking?
It seems to me that the biggest problem we women have is that people are incosiderate boobs! If everyone took a moment to clean up after themselves and FLUSHED, we wouldn't have to worry about standing up. Yes, there are times when we encounter "technical" problems with stalls, but 9 out of 10 times, it's because others don't flush!
I'm TIRED and SICK (LITERALLY) of walking into a stall and finding that the last users were inconsiderate boobs! GET A LIFE!

Anonymous12345's picture

I have recently picked up this skill and trust me, its much better than squatting over a dirty toliet seat and spraying everywhere.

I started practicing in the shower. When I was able to successfully hit the drain with no problem at all, I moved on to the toliet. Now I'm a pro!

One time the women's line was ridiculously long so I waltzed into the mens bathroom, went to the urinal, and went. Everyone thought it was sexy.

So, give it a try cause it's convient and fun.

Mother of Twins's picture

As the mother of twin daughters who are five, public restrooms are indeed challenging. For the past 18 months or so, I simply bring them into a stall, and have each over the seat, on opposite sides. My biggest problem is to get them to sit in far enough so that they get their pee into the stool and not on the seat or themselves. It is so surprising to me that large number of users who put large (several layers) of tissue over the seat, pee but never flush. Just last week when we were at a highway reststop, we passed up four stalls that had large amounts of paper on the seats and unflushed stools. I'm reluctant to try and flush in such situations because I don't know if the bowl will clog. After my girls get done and flush, I have them stand directly outside the toilet door and I watch their feet while I sit down and urinate. It only takes me a minute or less and the next woman in won't have to worry about the paper or pee I left for them. I know some mothers are neglectful, some are over-protective, and some are probably best described as neurotic. I'm a stay-at-home mom without a college degree and I want my girls to grow up knowing how to RESPONSIBLY USE public restrooms without the two extremes we've seen so much of with some of the other postings: fear and overreaction!

Steady Legs's picture

As a woman who has three school-aged daughters ages 7 to 16,I agree that practice is what's necessary to teach peeing from a standing position. However, there has to be a willing "learner" and I have had difficulty in getting through to my oldest. I started squat pissing on my first day of high school; my mom trained me as we went to various public places that summer, including our family vacation to Washigton, D.C. Although it hurt me considerably at first, I eventually saw the advantages of it when I was able to use a portable toilet on the mall, something most mothers would never allow their children to do if they intended to "sit down". The convenience factor became important to me and I was able to use toilets that others would take one look at and reject using. Even now, it's nice standing in line at a Knicks game, progressing to the stall, and then being able to use it--wet or shit-laden seat and all--because mom had the patience to teach me this most valuable technique. However, I'm still waiting for the "light" to go on for my 16-year-old. And waiting, and waiting.......

Anonymous C*nt's picture

If women weren't meant to stand and pee, then they wouldn't be able to. But clearly, they can with practice.

However, does it really matter? It's freakin' piss. Personally, I'd rather NOT have a dick and keep my glorious clit and be able to experience many orgasms and longer sex-sessions than having a penis to piss from. Penis envy is for the insecure. My boyfriend actually has clit envy!

cerise's picture

What's problem if with the travel-mate? It gets wet, so you wash it. That's all. Pee isn't as dirty as we are made to believe. It contains toxins but it's bug-free.

Comfortable Karissa's picture

It makes no sense to me and most of my friends as to why girls should squat over the toilet, play with their pussy lips and be some uncomfortable. Me and my friends just sit down at school because we enjoy being comfortable and this is the normal way we've been going for years. Besides, on most days we're going to have to sit down and take a shit anyway. We don't understand why some people are making it out to be such a big deal to sit on a toilet seat away from home. I did, however, try squatting once when I was traveling with my family at a rest stop and spreading my legs and squirting caused me so much pain that after a few seconds I just decided to sit down and do it the normal way. There are a few the squat at school....I think it's stupid!!!

The Shit Volcano's picture
Comment Quality Moderatorh 3000+ points

For the record, I pee standing up quite regularly. You cannot simply drop trou and piss, girls, or, as a couple of you mentioned above, you will have to use a bunch of toilet paper and other cleaners to wipe it up.

1. Lift the damn seat!
2. Seperate your pussy lips so pee streams don't go in various directions.
3. Actually watch where you are peeing. I have never understood why people, especially girls, won't look at their functions or even check their shit for changes in the toilet (which is the first sign of some rare but life threatening health conditions). People who are prudes should never try to pee standing just for this reason.

Oh, and I will probably make it a point to pee standing just because someone above said sitting is "peeing the way God intended".

I was a category five! Category five, I tell you! Get it right or I'll be back to PROVE IT!!!!- Katrina

I found Jesus! He was behind the sofa the whole time!

Gyl's picture

Right on, Melody. You are so right. I had a great day today at school. I took my much-needed shit 2nd hour, and when exiting the stall, I saw our school's most notorious hover pisser in her cheerleading uniform brush by me. I stopped the door as she was closing it, forced myself back in, and much to her surprise, simply raised the seat. She was startled and couldn't seem to figure out what I had done. The next person in line sure could! Chalk up a victory for us NORMAL GIRLS that sit down to pee!

Melody's picture

I'm in agreement with Angelina. I went to an elementary school that just had the pre-cut squares of toilet paper and they worked fine for wiping; THEY ALSO DISCOURAGED SEAT COVERING!
Yes, I know you can get the travel packs of sanitary seat covers at places like Walgreens but they are going the do a lot of good when there's urine on the seat from the standing pissers. The pee will go right through the seat protector. The nice thing about the pre-cut squares is that they SAVE paper and ONE of them is sufficient for wiping the seat off. So I sit directly on a public toilet seat. Does it mean that I'm the world's worst skank or will it be the end of the world. The enemy to us normal people are the standing pissers who in their next life will probably come back as boys who are notorious for peeing over seats because they are too lazy or perhaps stupid to lift the seat. I should know, I'm the only girl in a family of five boys!

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