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Ask Poopreport: Four Year-Old With Long Poop

Posted 03.17.2009 by Glutenmom (10)
My two sons and I have a wheat problem that manifests itself as copious tan diarrhea. Staying gluten free makes a huge positive impact. My son's poo is still soft though. Often he will vaguely tell me that his tummy hurts. He is still young enough to go in front of me, so I have seen him running to the potty, sitting down (or standing on the toilet as he sometimes does) and then witnessing it fall out of him with a big plop. And then, there will be even more. Lots of poo. He's such a little guy too. He looks worried during, turns a little pink and even shakes a little, but he tells me he feels fine and it does not hurt. This morning's offering held together well (definitely gluten-free poo) but wound around and around the bowl. It must have been 2 feet long. Any chance this is a somewhat normal occurrence?

I'm going to make an appointment for him to see a naturopath and hopefully we will get this handled, but first I wanted to see if you had thoughts about the efficacy of:
1. Increasing probiotics.
2. Finding supplements to support or feed intestinal mucosa.
3. Attempting the removal of other common allergens before undergoing testing (he dearly loves dairy and eggs). His diet is overall very healthy with lots of fruit and veggies.

I am so sad to think that the little guy may need a blood drawn for any medical testing that is needed. I hear that a real celiac test requires you to eat wheat and be sick for two months first - and then is only 70% accurate.

The important thing is: I want to circumvent any autoimmune problems down the road that malabsorption and a leaky-gut can contribute to. The kids unfortunately are related to me and I am a largely asymptomatic girl with a MS diagnosis (gluten-free living has made a huge difference for me). Your thoughts are appreciated!

phatmanxxl (514) -- 03.17.2009

My 4 year old son and my Baby Mama's 5 year old daughter typically make massive poopies, usually more than I can pinch off, often filling the bowl also. If you are concerned your doing the right thing by contacting his doctor.

Thunderbox (1379) -- 03.17.2009

I remember when one of my nephews was toilet training. He`d brought his little portable potty thing when they came to visit one day and set it by the toilet in the bathroom.

He came running in later shouting, "Uncle Tbox, come and see". He showed me his pot which was filled with a thick coiled serpent almost as long as his legs - unbelievable. I`ve no idea how the little lad managed to squeeze that beast out.

C Everett Poop (793) -- 03.17.2009

It's normal. He'll wish he could carve cables like that when he's my age.

Anonymous Hero (not verified) -- 03.17.2009

jesus crist the kid sounds like he is having healthy poops!! What is it with parents today, just let the kid take a poop. you are prob just messing him up in the head with your needless worrying

Logjam (2805) -- 03.17.2009

Punting this one to daphne. This is right up her alley, so to speak. But I have to tell you, I'm glad my parents fed me well and set high expectations, and didn't focus on the consistency of my shit.

Bilgepump (2776) -- 03.17.2009

LJ, have I ever told you how much I hate pragamatism and logic? You are missing a tremendous opportunity to not only mess with a little kid's head, but the parents as well...


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The proper order is kiss me, then go smell the other dog or cat's butt. I cannot stress this enough.

daphne (4405) -- 03.17.2009

Mom, if you are worried about malabsorption, would a set of bloodwork help you? I'm thinking if it's in your HMO, then asking for an iron count might relieve you a bit. As to him not getting the amount of vitamins that he should get from food, if his skin looks good, and his hair and nails are strong, then most likely he's getting enough nutrients from his food.

As to the uncomfortable stomach issue, you know, both my kids used to say "My stomach hurts" when there were about ready to unleash a brown anaconda into our unsuspecting plumbing. I have no idea what it's like to deal with a gluten problem, but if you're worried about soft poop, I have to ask why. I am totally uneducated as to gluten allergies and hope that Prarie pops in to comment (he knows something about it). But, I'll say this - better soft that hard. As long as he doesn't have the runs, I don't know if I'd worry. If it does make you worry, could you tell us why? Again, I have no idea what a gluten allergy is like or what it does to your poo.

One last question - is this the oldest son or the youngest?

Welcome to Poopreport, Glutenmom!


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www.daphneszoo.com

Poopsy McGee (234) -- 03.17.2009

Well, Glutenmom, my little bundle of joy is lactose intolerant, and lemme tell ya, things can get ugly. Over the last 10 years my little puke has projectile shit on me, the Volvo upholstery, dear old dad, and her bed dozens of times. And the smell....

I would recommend to you that you try any and all of the ideas you listed before you find yourself up to your elbows in sticky toddler poop. Or maybe worse, holding his little hand as he tries to pass the potato sized shit stuck in his ass.

My lil shitpot has been taking zantac for years in a vain attempt to keep her body from rejecting the dairy.

Good luck!

Dildo Baggins (115) -- 03.17.2009


Normally I would say something rude or nasty about the little dummy and his poop, but if he has a legit illness, get him some help ASAP. Damn, he's just a little kid...take care of him.And for Gods sake, keep him away from Uncle Tbox and his bag of candy._______
Here I sit, my cheeks a flexin' , trying to give birth to another Texan!!

Logjam (2805) -- 03.17.2009

Bilge chides "have I ever told you how much I hate pragamatism and logic? You are missing a tremendous opportunity to not only mess with a little kid's head, but the parents as well..."

You make a convincing argument, Bilge. In the future, I will not let that kind of opportunity pass me by.

Great comment! +1 point
cornleg (162) -- 03.17.2009

Yeah if its not always mushmeal and theres no constipation, blood or pain , I would say dont mess with a good thing. Seems like doctors today have a lot of information at there disposal and sometimes I think they micromanage a bit too much. Just to be safe though, see what the blood test says and in the mean time I wouldn't scare him too much or plant thoughts in his head by asking him too often if it hurts. He'll tell you if it hurts I'm sure. When I was an infant, I had some really serious constipation that required a trip to the emergency room. After trying several tricks of the trade, they decided to let me rest a bit and see if any of the stimulants would take. We went on home. I just kept cryng and not sleeping or pooping. My mom got the idea to let me soak from the neck down in some warm bath water to relax my poor little clenched cranston. It must have done the trick because my mom and aunt said that I really started to howl as a value size dog food can of a turd slowly bullied its way through my infant squint. Mom said that her and my aunt were actually crying along with me thinking that my tiny pucker was lterally going to start ripping and bleeding. My aunt held me while my mom caught the newborn stump in an old towel. They said I fell asleep almost immediatly and stayed out for a long nap. They called the doctor and he said to just let me sleep unless I had a fever or was bleeding etc. They showed the leviathen log to everyone in the house who would dare gaze upon it, and, well, of course, I wouldn't have had it any other way.

ChiliKahKah (1010) -- 03.17.2009

This is part of the new political climate....

This is the expected result of the new No Poop Left Behind Act.

Lower GI (not verified) -- 03.18.2009

Sounds to me like he's healthy. If you take him to a physician, they will almost be obligated to do some testing no matter what they think. The malpractice lawyers are hungry! If you take him to a naturopath, I guarantee they'll find something wrong and prescribe some expensive cocktail. Leave the poor kid alone. At least until he complains of pain AFTER the movement, you see blood or mucous or crawlies in his stool or it gets so long he needs a ladder to climb down.

Lame comment! -1 point
Dildo Baggins (115) -- 03.18.2009


I hate to piss on everyones parade, but this is a forum for the cavalier, not a place to seek or dispense serious medical advice or opinions. People seem to want to refer to either Daphne or Poonurse as some kind of medical advisory board. In the event that either one posseses any kind of medical bona fides, which is doubtful, they are out of their minds for offering up any advice or opinions based on anecdotal symptoms and not an actual hands on examination. As to the people looking for free medical help, go to a reputable online medical site, since it is obvious you are either too cheap to seek proper treatment or lack the financial ability to seek treatment. I completely understand where you are coming from, but please, go to a hospital ER. You will get treated regardless of ability to pay, and will get a damn sight better resolution that you will get from a group of people who actually pride themselves on shitting their pants.You want funny, entertaining stories about shit, or companionship of people with the same scatalogical compunctions as yourself, you are in the right place. If you have more serious problems with the bottom end of your digestive tract, seek real help.

I might as well bring up another subject while probably losing another lame point. Is anyone else getting as agravated as I am at the few people who are playing the site scoring system? Two in particular, Leandra and Tbox, are racking up huge points by engaging in asinine blather amongst themselves. Leandra, for example has gone from almost no points to 777 simply by using the posting boards as a chatroom. 90% of her posts have no relevance whatsoever to the topic, and are simply being used to run up the score. I know that no prizes are awarded and that its simply a meaningless number, but visitors to the site will see the overinflated numbers that some people are falsely generating, and think these people have some kind of prestige or seniority. Sorry if I've pissed off some of the regulars, but I doubt I'm the only one who feels this way, about either issue.______
Here I sit, my cheeks a flexin' , trying to give birth to another Texan!!

Deja Poo (999) -- 03.18.2009

So, your 4 yo can pass a 2' long, soft, tan turd without any howling discomfort, but with a little trepidation. Seems normal to me to have some trepidation when passing 2' of hawser. But, at first blush, everything seems okay.

The thing I'm concerned about is the volume of the thing. I understand that the concepts of conservation of mass and volume don't necessarily apply to poop. Still, if he's pushing out that much poop, it makes me wonder how much food he's taking in.

For instance, I eat a pretty hefty amount of food and my gut compacts that into a significantly smaller package. The exception, of course, is all of the dried fruit I eat -- especially the dried apples -- which not only causes weapons-grade gas but also bulks up the size of my productions. However, to pass a two-footer would require a gargantuan amount of food even if it's the bulk-inducing dried fruits. When I think of this in relation to a 4 yo, I can only see him eating constantly in order to take in that much food.

On the other hand, once him and his friends start comparing notes on their ass productions, all of his best buds will be prostrating themselves before him.
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My special need's student crapped in your honor roll student's backpack.

Deja Poo (999) -- 03.18.2009

I have to disagree with you, HJ. While none of us are docs, we still bring some wisdom as well as humor to this. Yeah, maybe our posts should be taken with a grain of salt. But most of these posts also usually contain a kernel of corn as well.
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My special need's student crapped in your honor roll student's backpack.

Great comment! +1 point
daphne (4405) -- 03.18.2009

Hugh, Motherload does have 'bona fides'. So does Snapper. So did Poonurse. That's why they were and are our Poopreport nurses. I am not a nurse, but I have been educated in anatomy, taxonomy, biology, advanced biology, anthropological physiology, Latin, medical illustration and some medical transcription, much of it on a college level. Of course, all of that pales in comparison to acutally being a mom who has a kid who had extremely bad digestive trouble as a toddler.

I don't think Logjam meant that "Daphne's the end all of information", because I'm not. Maybe he just meant "Maybe a mom might have some insight in this area." One of the reasons that I asked Glutenmom if this child was her oldest is because I wanted to know how long she'd been a mom. If this is her first child, seeing poop that big might have freaked her out. It's a natural reaction to worry.

As to userpoints, if TBox, Leandra, or whomever wants to come on PR and yak amongst themselves, that's a good thing. This is what PR's for. I don't know why it would bother some that we have people who enjoy posting and derailing the shit out of threads, because you can still post on topic if you want. When I visit the site in the evening and see that we have new threads with over sixty comments, I smile. That means that the Poopers had a fun day ragging on each other and the site got more hits. It also means we have comraderie and friendship happening. Good, good, good. I like that comraderie.

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.....hugging bunnies since 1969
www.daphneszoo.com

Great comment! +1 point
Captain Craptastic (136) -- 03.19.2009

Instead of getting all worried about imaginary medical conditions/hypochondria, why not just boost the kid's self-esteem and congratulate him on these massive turds?

In my nursing school clinicals, which provide ample opportunity to deal with the poop of others, a few of my classmates have had problems. One confided in me that her patient had a very large poop and when she discovered it, she ran from the room, stricken by panic and terror.

The wrong approach to take!!!

I would have handled differently: a high five or a pat on the back, a "Right on, good job, Mr./Mrs. X" and set about cleaning him up (might want to save a piece in a specimen jar for a lab work-up). Prodigious ass-product can be a cause for celebration and rejoicing! The advent of Megaturd! Halleluyah!
----Captain Craptastic!!!

Blind Mullet (575) -- 03.19.2009

Jeez, daph, I've got mixed emotions about this one.
On one hand, I see your point about camaraderie, etc., but on the other hand, I agree with HJ about point scoring with no real input. (I know I've had this rant just recently).
People like pd, Chief, Bp, et al contribute clever, witty, and often hilarious comments, and all their points are rightly deserved.
Unfortunately, it makes a mockery of such a system if anybody can just come along and post a one-word comment, time after time after time, and score mega-points for diddly-squat.
Thats what the chatroom exists for, and probably the reason that points are not awarded in there.
I still think its high time the "Lame comment" stamp came out more often, just like in the old days.
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The white zone is for loading and unloading only- FZ.

daphne (4405) -- 03.19.2009

Great idea, Captain! Make the little guy feel good about it.

Mullet, I don't know what to say. You obviously don't like reading some people's comments, and I understand. But, again, the solution is easy. Don't read them. Just don't expect me haul out my lame stamp because someone's having fun. I just can't do that.

As to the points, agh. I don't think the local post whores (of which I'm one) ever really think about points when making a comment. Maybe when there's a milestone point, sure, but otherwise? No one's purposely posting on the front page instead of a chat room because they're getting points. I swear.


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.....hugging bunnies since 1969
www.daphneszoo.com

MSG (1155) -- 03.19.2009

I come to this forum to read (and write) comments about poop and pooping, the raison d'etre for the site. I prefer not to encounter derailments; but, as Daphne said, it's not that hard to insert a comment back on the track.

For example: While I don't remember much about our son's productions as an infant, I do remember them as real cloggers once he hit the teen years. He actually dreaded "using it" (as he put it) for a while because he knew he would drop a ball-bat and have to clean it up. I never had turds that big as a teenager, and now I wish I had had that experience. As for the little folks with long turds--more power to them! That's what a colon is for: to form turds, and as long as they're not hurting upon exit, I say keep them coming.

Great comment! +1 point
Bilgepump (2776) -- 03.19.2009

MSG is the most notorious "back on topic" guy we got...he's ruined more of my derails than any three people combined. Bastard.

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The proper order is kiss me, then go smell the other dog or cat's butt. I cannot stress this enough.

ChiefThunderbutt (2791) -- 03.19.2009

I post on poop report because it is a fun thing to do. If there were no points awarded for a post I would post just as often and try just as hard to make folks laugh. When I come back to a post and someone has remarked that one of my posts has caused them to snort their beverage through their nostrils all over their keyboard I am happy. Humor must be shared to be appreciated. My departed and very dear mother kept her sense of humor even on her deathbed at the age of one-hundred, I hope to do the same.
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Eat chilies and feel the burn!!

LeandraCullen (913) -- 03.19.2009

MSG just ruined everyone's derails...I have lost the zest for off-topic posting....
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The Original Grasshopper

ChiefThunderbutt (2791) -- 03.19.2009

Original grasshopper..........I sincerely hope the zest returns. Off-topic posting is the zest of life.

Hugh...If we were being payed for our points, your comment might have made some sense. We aren't supposed to get money for our posts are we? Daphne!...Dave!
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Eat chilies and feel the burn!!

Bilgepump (2776) -- 03.19.2009

(discreetly forging CTB's signature on another $1000.00 Poopreport check) uh...no, chief, no pay involved...none whatsoever. (Hijacks Prarie Doggin's latest PR check)...
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The proper order is kiss me, then go smell the other dog or cat's butt. I cannot stress this enough.

LeandraCullen (913) -- 03.19.2009

...off-topic posting? I'll try. I like rusty spoons.

Salad Fingers, anyone?
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The Original Grasshopper

daphne (4405) -- 03.20.2009

It is in MSG's genetics to be on topic - he's a teacher!


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.....hugging bunnies since 1969
www.daphneszoo.com

Great comment! +1 point
Bilgepump (2776) -- 03.20.2009

Hugh...wanna go look at my post count, and go through them and tell me how many are directly topic related? I'll be the first to admit I blather, usually to other commentors, usually ignoring the topic altogether. Maybe you'd like to examine Prarie Doggin's record...easily the fastest paced PR member here...the fact of the matter is, most of us don't give a damn about the fucking points...why you would is beyond me. I gave up measuring my e-penis long ago.


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The proper order is kiss me, then go smell the other dog or cat's butt. I cannot stress this enough.

Dildo Baggins (115) -- 03.20.2009


Point taken 'pump....oh shit, I made a pun. Point..get it ?_______
Here I sit, my cheeks a flexin' , trying to give birth to another Texan!!

LeandraCullen (913) -- 03.20.2009

Not funny, asshole.
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The Original Grasshopper

Lame comment! -2 points
Dildo Baggins (115) -- 03.20.2009


Sounds like everyones favorite skank is on the rag._______
Here I sit, my cheeks a flexin' , trying to give birth to another Texan!!

Lame comment! -1 point
Dildo Baggins (115) -- 03.20.2009


Get a hold of the Rorschak guy, maybe he has some leftover aspirin for your cramps._______
Here I sit, my cheeks a flexin' , trying to give birth to another Texan!!

LeandraCullen (913) -- 03.20.2009

I actually am on the rag, how funny you would know. Wait, are you stalking me? WTF? lolz, just kidding. And, I don't get cramps. Everyone at school that I tell that to is jealous, but it's true. I get the period poo demons though, and that sucks.
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The Original Grasshopper

LeandraCullen (913) -- 03.20.2009

Wait, OMG, HJ, am I like, really everyone's favorite skank? That is like, so cool! NFW! Thanx sooo much!
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The Original Grasshopper

Blind Mullet (575) -- 03.20.2009

...erm, pardon my saying so, but I think theres a big difference between Bp's off-topic posts, which are always humorous, and the foolish blatherings of folks who post things like OMG, like, am I like, WTF, like, barf out, gag me with a spoon, like totally, kewl, lolz, NFW, etc., etc., ad effing nauseam.
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The white zone is for loading and unloading only- FZ.

LeandraCullen (913) -- 03.20.2009

BM, I was kidding, I asked one of the mods to lame that post because it shouldn't have gotten any points. Don't get your panties in a bunch.
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The Original Grasshopper

Crapola (302) -- 03.21.2009

Did you ever see the infomercials starring the scary-looking guy Klee Irwin about colon cleansing products? He always says that we should all be pooping gigantic turds as young children naturally do. So maybe this little kid is just fine!

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Piece Out!
Crapola

phatmanxxl (514) -- 03.21.2009

I envy this kid, for the past few months I have been pushing hard and dropping few. I drink two or more liters of water a day and eat fiber one cereal every morning. This sucks, I want two footer toilet snakes :c

Mrs. Mad Crapper (1120) -- 03.21.2009

I like to eat tacos. I love guac on my taco, it reminds me of bat shit or early baby poopies but I still love it.
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Earth, insane asylum for the universe.

LeandraCullen (913) -- 03.21.2009

I only eat tacos with those yummy soy crumbles on them...yum! No cooked flesh for me, thank you.
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The Original Grasshopper

Tuba Cheeks (14) -- 03.21.2009

Hear hear, Phats- I'm jealous too! Wish I could produce such mighty monuments to good digestion...

annamous (not verified) -- 05.31.2009

my five year old still pops his pants what can i do to help him stop poping his pants

ChiefThunderbutt (2791) -- 05.31.2009

annamous......If the child pops his pants I would say that either the pants are to small or the kid is to big, the problem could be easily cured by purchasing either larger pants or trading the kid in for a smaller model.


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Eat chilies and feel the burn!!

Charles Pookowski (13) -- 06.01.2009

"Poping his pants"? I don't know why you would let a pope anywhere near your 5 year old's pants.


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"There was nothing really as glorious as a good beer shit—I mean after drinking twenty or twenty-five beers the night before. It made you realize that you were really alive.”

LeandraCullen (913) -- 08.09.2009

Dildo Baggins (120) -- 03.20.2009

Sounds like everyones favorite skank is on the rag._______
Here I sit, my cheeks a flexin' , trying to give birth to another Texan!!

LOL, I know I haven't been here in forever, but I definitely remember this post...seems to me like there's a different name on it tough...

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The Original Grasshopper

prarie doggin (3905) -- 08.09.2009

Leandra, if you don't want the title he gave you, can I have it? I always wanted to be everyones favorite skank. Hell I'd settle for most peoples sorta liked skank.

ChiefThunderbutt (2791) -- 08.09.2009

PD....Just got this definition of skank from the free online dictionary, "One who is disgustingly foul or filthy and often considered sexually promiscuous. Used especially of a woman or girl." I think it sounds like a fun thing, especially the promiscuousness.....got room for one more skank?


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Eat chilies and feel the burn!!

LeandraCullen (913) -- 08.09.2009

Oh hell no, that's mine. My title, no one can have it. Just like the original grasshopper.
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The Original Grasshopper

daphne (4405) -- 08.11.2009

Besides, a skank would be an asshopper.


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.....hugging bunnies since 1969
www.daphneszoo.com

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