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Flushing Freud: Responses To Infants On The Pot

Posted 10.14.2005 by Logjam
On Monday, we covered a New York Times story about toilet training of weeks-old infants. (login: poopreport password: poopreport) I gave the thumbs down to this new practice of "elimination communication," worrying that it could produce a generation of children more neurotic about shitting than even we are.

I felt smugly confident until the next day, when I read a follow-up article in Tuesday's New York Times. (Am I dreaming, or has the Times increased the staff working the poop beat?) In an op-ed piece, Meredith Small, professor of anthropology at Cornell, wondered why, despite all of the other child-rearing practices she herself adopted from other cultures, it never occurred to her to raise her children without diapers. This, after all, was a practice she'd observed successfully deployed in many other countries, including China, India and Kenya.

She ended up blaming Freud. It is thanks to him, she claimed, that we "see the bathroom as a snake pit of psychological danger, and believe that the only way to prevent scarring a child for life is to let him or her come to the toilet in his or her own time, assuming there will be a diaper pinned on for as long as it takes."

Hmmm. I do seem to hold this odd belief -- that society must impose itself on an infant's natural desire to poop whenever, and that if we aren't careful in exerting this power, the kid will suffer some form of analitis. When I wrap my knuckles on this idea, it does sound like a crock-o-shit. And it is easy to see how this Freudian notion -- like the idea of original sin -- may have slipped so deeply into the American consciousness that it is impossible for many of us to take a relaxing shit in public restrooms.

So I take it all back. Go for it, elimination-communication groupies. And next time I take a healthy shit and gaze into the bowl to admire my accomplishment, I'm going to keep looking until I can make out Sigmund staring back up at me. Once I've spotted him, I'll salute the old boy, then give him a summary flush down the tubes.

Show some poop support, or make a poop retort.
Fart Poopie (1258) -- 10.17.2005

The reason parents in Kenya and most of India dont use diapers is that they cannot afford them. A lot of them dont even have indoor plumbing, so I can't imagine it's hard to toilet train a kid when all outdoors IS their toilet.
A quote from the follow up article:
"The trick is that infants in these cultures are always physically entwined with a parent or someone else, and "elimination communication" is the norm. With bare bottoms, they ride on the hip or back and it's easy to feel when they need to go."
I guess the parents are the toilets too. It sounds like they're just catching the kids right before/during the act and rushing them to their bathroom, or hole in the ground.

It's also interesting to note that the woman who wrote this article is "against the Western ideology of making [her] child independent and self-reliant." I thought teaching our kids to be independent and self-reliant was a good thing. This woman sounds like the type of mother that will tell her children how to dress, what to study, where to work, what to do on the weekend (probably shave mommy's legs), and pretty much control every aspect of their lives. They will probably take the abuse too, because they were trained young to do everything "mommy's way" and not learn to do anything on their own.
Freud or no Freud, after reading these articles, I still don't believe it's good to force a baby on the toilet so young. Their little bodies aren't physically ready to hold it in until they're about 2 years of age.

Logjam (2826) -- 10.18.2005

These infants aren't being made to hold it in. Rather, parents learn to read the need-to-go look in the kid's eyes, and get them quickly to the pot. I have hopes that when I'm in the home, my colon on its last legs, that someone will be so kind to me.

Fart Poopie (1258) -- 10.19.2005

It's too bad there's no home that will do that, then. If ya can't hold it in, it's wearing diapers for you.

Logjam (2826) -- 10.19.2005

Well, as you now know, Fart Poopie, my real problem is that as I get older, I'm getting grumpy and irritable. So it won't take long once in my 80s for the kids to decide I'd be best in a "home," where I'll quickly piss off the staff who, to get back, will leave me to stew in my own shit. My only hope is to amass a fortune, which explains why I spend so much time on PR.

The Dumpster (2510) -- 02.08.2006

Logjam says, "it is easy to see how this Freudian notion -- like the idea of original sin -- may have slipped so deeply into the American consciousness...."

"The doctrine of original sin is the one philosophy that has been empirically verified by 3500 years of human experience." G.K. Chesterton.

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