Excellent reporting, Dumps!

You know, it's going to end up being A LOT of doors.

"Men"
"Women"
"Pre-Op MTF"
"Pre-Op FTM"
"Post-Op MTF"
"Post-Op FTM"
"Out"
"In"
"Switch Hitters"
"Men In Dresses"
"Women in Jockstraps"
"Undecided"
"Hermaphrodites-Male Orientation"
"Hermaphrodites-Female Orientation"
"Eunuchs-Voluntary"
"Eunuchs-Accidental"
"Eunuchs-Environmental"
"Just Plain Mental"

This is one of the best newswires I've red yet. I remember at an old job I had an individual was trying to sue the employer because they did not have any non gender specific bathrooms and (he/she/it?) did not feel comfortable in any of the regular bathrooms.

The case was dismissed on the grounds that it was just insaine.

What happens next? I don't like to poop at work, should I force my employer to build a bathroom specificly designed to make me comfortable. After all, it is my RIGHT AS A HUMAN BEING to poop in comfort goddamnit.

Word of advice, hold it or get over it.

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Well, 9IL, here's the thing. They are having problems BECAUSE they hold it. I think it's a great idea to provide more restrooms for non-gender-specific people. My thought is to include some simgle-toilet rooms simply labeled TOILET and not MEN or WOMEN or anything else. It's simple and it works, and anyone who needs the toilet can come and have their own toilet for a few minutes. At NCSU I see this in a (very) few places. The sign next to every door in every building has the room number and sometimes a label such as "Engineering Storage" or whatever. The rooms of which I speak have "TOILET", a man silhouette, a woman silhouette, and the handicap symbol, so that alone basically designates it as open to everyone. I don't know any transgenders, but they have somewhere to crap or pee should the need arise.

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You may have cracked it DF, I was thinking of just adding some highly embarrassing symbols on the disabled shitter door.

The wheelchair symbol encompasses so many things from "I`m temporarily out of action from breaking my leg/arm/other" to "I`ve got terminal MS" to any number of complaints, temporary or permanent.

If these folk, who are a minute minority, can`t use the disabled shitter; or if they dress like a guy, the male shitter and use a cubicle; or if they dress like a woman the womens (which are all cubicles) - what the fuck is wrong with them.

Taxpayers should not have to stump up for any more.

For the disabled, however temporary or permanent, all of the restrooms around campus include a handicrapper. The deal with the toilets I mention is just to make a point that they are open to everyone.

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Single user bathrooms should be able to satisfy anyone. If only one person at a time can use them, how is anyone compromised? If a number of these are placed around campus, wouldn't that solve the problem? Otherwise, methinks certain people are protesting way too much.

Yeah, but, TBW, they're Harvard people. You don't get it: They're entitled to have everything their way, as they undoubtedly will from now on.

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I am going out of town in the morning, so I have to add one more comment to this thread. Some of the names in this story (all of which are real) belong on our forums thread about funny sounding names: Mr. "Woods," Ms. "Skier," and--best of all--Mr. "Mahan" (what if his first name was "Pat," and you pronounced his last name with the emphasis on the last syllable?).

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That just makes me mad. These people need to pick one or the other. It is ridiculous the things that some people fight over. Imagine if we put this energy to some good.

The only thing that come to mind is that we have kids in this country in schools all over the place who aren't allowed to pee or poop because of ridiculous bathroom restrictions and someone should realize if an adult bladder is compromised, then a child's bladder is compromised twice as much.

I hope some of these trans gender people are legal students who go on to do some pro bono work for children who have been refused bathroom time.

Nice article.
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No one seems to have mentioned the correlation between Shamefulness and these transgendered people. I've already posted that I think single user bathrooms would solve any problems they might have, but can we not hope that at least some of these people might work on some sort of attitude adjustment about peeing and pooping in general?

I mean, what's the difference between someone who is chronically Shameful about using public restrooms for whatever psychological reasons and a transgendered person who feels out of place?

Why should we not encourage the transgendered to work on healthier attitudes towards using any public bathroom instead of indulging what appears to me to be a prima donna attitude towards the entire area of human activity?

I have to admit further that I'm not a fan of Ivy League political correctness. This entire movement (no pun intended) seems out of control. I continue to believe that Shamelessness cures everything.

The issue of GLBTWCTetc bathrooms has come up in the news fairly often in the last few years, and I've resisted posting BMnewswires on the subject because I figured they would just descend into flamewars. I'm really gratified to see the great discussion on the subject.

TBW says:
"Why should we not encourage the transgendered to work on healthier attitudes towards using any public bathroom instead of indulging what appears to me to be a prima donna attitude towards the entire area of human activity?"

The other reason I've avoided commenting on stories like this is that I really didn't know how the PoopReport philosophy would respond to this problem. But TBW, you've nailed it. Very, very insightful.

If it was only a matter of psychological comfort, I'd agree with the idea that transgender folks should just get over it. But there are numerous reports of them getting arrested and/or hassled for using the "wrong" restroom.

Dave, Wonderpance and I snuck it in while you were gone.

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And me!

I was questioning whether to put it up myself; I must admit I was really, really leery to publish this one. I figured it would only descend into a flame war and I'd come home to a mess on my hands. However, we have had good ideas shared on this thread.

My take on transgendered people: Whatever you look like, use that restroom. It doesn't matter what equipment you have, but if your equipment is the wrong kind for how your clothes and face look, you should probably use a stall. I do not agree that new restrooms should be built just for trannies. How many can there possibly be at Harvard?

It is a shame that they are harrassed, and no one deserves to be beaten up or anything, but they made that choice knowing full well what society thinks of transgendered people. There are surely lower-traffic times that one can go to the bathroom, and bathrooms that are not well used. I don't believe the situation is as bad as the asshats in the article make it out to be. They're getting their panties all in a bunch about this. That's why you shouldn't wear panties when you still have balls.

AB2K writes: "That's why you shouldn't wear panties when you still have balls."

'Scuse me; I just shart myself from laughing so hard. I need to go change my panties.

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wow line of the century. but yeah transgendered folk, i don't care, use whatever room you like, just use a stall and don't leer at me. i had a co worker one time we all suspected was ftm transgender, wore her hair shaved short, mens clothing and had a little rainbow 2 girl necklace thing that she wore. anyway case in point, she never said anything, we never said anything, nobody cared. it's totally a confidence thing, just like in Highschool, you can roam the halls without a pass, just don't look suspicious about it, or in this case don't look suspicious make a big deal or stare at things you shouldn't.... and if you are wearing a skirt the ladies room is a better choice, no matter if you can hike it up and use the urinal, it's just a poor idea.

I think this is an example of political correctness spinning totally out of control, which, in my opinion, is practically its nature anyway. I'll repeat this because it makes so much sense: a number of single user bathrooms across the Harvard campus should take care of this situation. No one is ever subject to ridicule in such facilities.

Period. The rest of this is just a bunch of loud, politically-correct noise.

TBW writes about "loud, politically-correct noise."

Pardon me, sir, but the editor in me detects a tautology here.

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Let`s sort the whole problem out simply, here and now. As we all know, there are men`s and women`s shitters that are near enough the same size - as a guy I know that the women have a better deal in the number of stalls, but we don`t care.

The disabled shitter is big, comfy and has enough room for a good shag, this is available everywhere now due to the disabilality/discrimination etc. laws.

Why not just label this shitter "Others", and let`s all use it as, when and how we wish - the more the better!