Pick Up That Poop

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As PoopReport's resident bunny hugger, I'm an all-around tree-saving, baby-kissing, flower-eating, save-the-Earth kind of person who has, for years, felt somewhat odd about picking up her pets' poop in recycled Wal-Mart or Army commissary plastic bags that I've saved for just this purposed. When I sift the kitty litter or pick up after Gator, our eighty-pound American Bulldog (and now Sadie, our newest family member, a fifty-pound pit bull mix), I often think to myself, "How can this bag degrade if it's kept from air and sunlight? This bag will be around for the next century." It's the Catch-22 for environmentally conscious pet owners like me.

Thankfully the pet industry has addressed this dilemma through products coupling peace of mind with actual effective results. Of course, we don't all live in a suburban homes, so products like the Doggie Dooley (a sort-of in-ground septic tank for dog poop) are not always realistic. Many dog owners are city dwellers in apartments. But now there's a product all dog owners can use: Oops I Pooped biodegradable dog poop bags.

Averaging around eight dollars for 88 bags, Oops I Pooped bags are just one product in a growing market of environmentally friendly poop-disposal items that you can find on the Internet, in neighborhood pet stores, or in catalogs that come in the mail. And I couldn't be more pleased. Our family has been using them for over a month now, and they are no more difficult to operate than your normal, run-of-the-mill plastic bags.

It's obvious why you should care about the degradability of plastic bags. But there's a bigger question: why should you care about picking up your dog's poop? After all, no one picks up poop in nature. Why not let nature take its course?

Quite simply: because the sidewalk is not nature. Pet waste left on sidewalks is a significant contributing factor to the spread of the following diseases, bacteria, and protozoa:

Tapeworm

"Poop rice," as described by my veterinarian, is the single most common infection transmitted by discarded dog poop in the United States. An estimated 35% of the indoor animals that contract tapeworm are thought to get it from infected poop brought into the home on the shoes of humans who have stepped in it. Tapeworm is a parasite that needs fleas to fulfill its lifecycle, but poop is crucial to the process.

Roundworm

One worm of this class, Toxocarisis, is transmitted to humans through infected animal poop. It can cause rash, fever, and a loss of vision.

Cryptosporidium

These protozoa cause diarrhea in dogs, cats, and humans. According to some health professionals, many of us may have had it without knowing it -- it can go undetected two out of the three times it has been contracted. You might have just blamed Taco Bell.

Salmonellosis

This nasty little bacterium causes fever, vomiting, diarrhea (or, as we PoopReporters call it, "double doodie"), and headaches that leave both pets and people weak and sometimes unable to recover for months. Although most often associated with uncooked chicken, this bacterium can be brought into your home -- with devastating results in the young and elderly -- by, once again, simply walking through infected poop.

Giardia

This single-celled organism causes flatulence (yes, that's a bad thing), diarrhea, and overall digestive disorder. It can live outside of the host for vast periods of time, which is why it easily and successfully spreads via infected poop.

E. Coli

This bacterium produces a toxin that injures the epithelial cells of our digestive tract, which can lead to severe bleeding and even permanent kidney damage.

Parvovirus

This small, single DNA-stranded virus is species-specific, not xenotransferable, but there are many types of it. In dogs, the virus capsule -- which, unlike some viruses, is not composed of fat which means disinfectants can't kill it as easily -- affects quick-splitting cells like those of bone marrow, the lymph system, and the intestinal tract. Its initial symptoms include Rover vomiting and diarrhea-ing, which is why those symptoms should always be treated with medical attention, especially in puppies and adolescent dogs.

Well, that settled the argument for me. Infected poop spreads infections. But what about those of us who, like me, give our animals excellent health care? "My dog has none of those diseases," I might say, "so why should I pick up his dook?"

Because poop -- even "quality" poop that may not infect humans and our pets with diseases -- still causes trouble.

When you leave poop on the sidewalk, it's eventually swept into the sewers -- not the same sewers through which human poop travels, but the storm sewers, which often discharge directly into the waterways without any treatment. Thus poop degrades water quality, leading to cloudiness and an increase of algae. (If you have an aquarium, you know this to be true.) Pet poop has been considered responsible for almost one fourth of the fecal contamination of the waterways -- those very same waterways from which you get your drinking water.

And then there are the flies. While they are completely indispensable in our ecosystem as garbage men (maggots recycle dead carcasses and poop), they refuse to confine themselves to the poop in your yard and on the sidewalk. They fly into your house and sit on your living surfaces. And they don't wash their hands -- so if you leave poop lying around, they're going to touch it on the way to your kitchen. And here's what they might bring with them:

Shigellosis

A variety of diseases, like dysentery, that cause diarrhea.

Polio

Believe it. Poliomyelitis can be transmitted by a fly landing on your food. Susceptible people -- like those who aren't properly vaccinated -- can and have contracted polio in this manner.

Eye Diseases

Trachoma and epidemic conjunctivitis (a.k.a pink eye) are transmitted by houseflies in Asia, Africa, and the Pacific regions of the world.

Diseases that are less commonly transmitted by houseflies include Salmonellosis, Cholera, Amoebic Dysentery, and parasitic worms such as pinworm, whipworm, hookworm, and tapeworm.

Flies won't necessarily acquire those diseases from poop. But if they're carrying those diseases, poop will enable those dangerous flies to thrive.

What about poop as a natural fertilizer? Well, Yelm, Washington is full of farmers, and since most of them are friendly to a fault, I was able to pester them with this question in our town's Safeway. All of them told me roughly the same thing. "Fertilizer manure needs to be from a plant eater, miss. Pig poop, dog poop, it doesn't help our crops or the grass because it doesn't have grass in it. The stuff in dog poop does not give back to our crops anything worth gettin'." Well, that's good enough for me.

(Editor's note: pig poop and dog poop -- and even human poop -- CAN be used as fertilizer, but they need to be properly composted first.)

After learning all this about dog poop, I feel a bit better about having sacrificed a few non-biodegradable plastic bags in favor of keeping my neighborhood disease free—while Gator and Sadie have all of their shots and are parasite-free, their waste would otherwise definitely contribute to the fly population of our community. And now that even my plastic bags can be environmentally friendly, why, I have no excuse.

SOURCES

http://www.vbspca.com/library_poop.html

http://www.outlawchinooks.com/Scoop_on_Poop.html

http://www.aboutbugsbugsbugs.com/houseflies/health.htm

http://www.marvistavet.com/html/what_is_parvo.html

57 Comments on "Pick Up That Poop"

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So I guess the people who came up with these brilliant ideas and products for the disposal of dog log land mines would be considered business entremanures?

Slopjockey

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The farmers you talked to may say that dog poop is no good as a fertelizer and I'm sure they're right, but I doubt they follow their dogs with bags to pick up the poop they dump in the fields. :)
Picking up dog poop is very important if you live in a city, I agree. However, some of us live out in the middle of nowhere where walking a dog will take you right into the woods and the mountains. There's no need to pick it up then.

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In my neighborhood, you don't have to spend $8. You just go to the park and take some off the dog crap bag dispenser.

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This reminds me, I gotta rake the yard. Thanks alot Daphne....damn, as if I didn't have enough to do... :)

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Thanks daph. After reading your list of what I can get from dog poop, it's a wonder I'm ever healthy. I live in a rural neighborhood with lots of dog owners, some of whom will let their dogs shit on my lawn. If I fail to spot and clean it up, there's hell enough to pay when I mow the lawn, when the shit hits the fan. And from now on, I'll be scrubbing the shoes after each run-in.

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Ew! I knew about all these things but it still grosses me out every time I hear about it.

Parvo is a nasty disease. When I worked at the vet I used to work in the isolation ward, where all the parvo puppies were kept. All they could do was stand there, shaking, while shit and vomit dripped out of their bodies. Parvo is kind of like dog cholera, killing its host by lost of electrolytes and dehydration.

I don't know who said dog poop is not good for fertilizer. I've used it a couple of times and it works wonderfully. Just know which dog it is coming from and where you collected it.

Good article, daphne!

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Very informative article. I knew dog crap was bad, but didn't realize the extent of it.

I looked into the Doggie Dooley a while back, and it looked feasible until I noticed the temperature requirment. It says 40 degrees and up, and that pretty much eliminates 5 - 6 months of the year in Chicago. One of the positive customer comments is from someone in Joliet, IL, so I'm confused. Does anyone have any experience they'd like to share about these? If they really work, I'd like to get one. Not only does our dog produce a lot of poop, the neighbors let their mutts crap in our yard as well, the bastards.

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Fart Poopie...
You must not know too much about "Leave No Trace" and that type of thing.
It would seems that you enjoy the mountains but care little if others do now, or if it's around for your children later.
(Sorry if thats not the case but it's how you come off...unless you just are that ignorant.)
First it should be noted that Dog Poop isn't natural to that enviroment.
Second Dog poop is a health hazard for many reasons, and not only to humans.
Third it increases the nitrogen in the soil, giving the advantage to weeds over the native plants that evolved in nitrogen-poor soils.

If your dog was wild (Coyote, Wolf, etc) his diet and exposure to diseases would be vastly different. Leaving your dogs feces is exposing other wildlife to such things.

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C Everett, the entire point of the article was that poop can't biodegrade in those types of bags.

But at least you're picking it up.
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Tee hee. Slopjockey, I just got your joke. Yeah, I'm slow today..........hugging bunnies since 1969

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Ha, ha! "Fart Poopie is an IDIOT" actually took the time to register with this name. Now who's the idiot?

If you want to express an opinion that is different than someone else, just register like any normal person and debate the issue.

Some people need to grow up.

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I am glad someone cares enough to use biodegradable poopie bags.Plastic is evil. Poop is good.
BTW, human poop used as fertilizer is sometimes called Nightsoil.I always thought that sounded like a heavy metal band...

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This is a first.

"The Neighbor" to whom I've referred in certain posts, read this tonight while we were chillin' watchin' John Leguzamo do to it on er.

Yet, I am still accepted.

And, the kiddies had a double of Mountain Dew Pitch Black on the counter. They are now interested in the green poop.

Oh, how we infect.............hugging bunnies since 1969

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Thank you so much for posting this. Thank you thank you thank you.

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Daphne, Our park has biodegradable bags. It's my $500 a month property taxes at work.

C Everett Poop

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To the person who felt it necessary to call me an idiot:

First of all I don't have a dog, but my good neighbors do, and they take their dogs up in the mountains all the time. There are other animals up there, and they have been shitting there since the dawn of time. It's not populated, it's nature and poop is natural. I don't see rangers going around collecting mountain lion shit in baggies, so there's no reason to collect your dog shit up there. Get over it.

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You also must not have read what Daphne's good farmer friends told her. Dog poop is not a good fertelizer, so it's not going to help foreign weeds/plants grow.

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And a third thing! If dogs and dog shit are so damn bad for the environment, why does the EPA allow them to exist?
I'm not condoning leaving your dog crap lying around on the sidewalk or someone's yard. I agree that's dangerous and wrong. But, seriously, if you're out in the middle of nowhere what's the difference? Do you really think that dumping dog shit in a landfill is any better? Most biodegradable objects dumped into a landfill don't degrade like they should because landfills don't provide the right environment for nature to take its course. Look it up and educate yourself, instead of calling other people idiots.

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Fart Poopie, if someone wishes to sign in by a name calling you an idiot, they are not intelligent or mature enough to debate with. If anything, they should laughed at and belittled. It is the only thing they understand.

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"Do you really think that dumping dog shit in a landfill is any better?"

Yes. Landfills are designed for containment, not degradation. To quote myself from this article, "Landfills are closed systems -- they keep the garbage in and (try to) keep the moisture out. A landfill is designed to isolate trash from groundwater, and keep it dry and out of contact with the air. In a landfill, trash doesn't decompose. It just sits there."

In other words, dog poop in a landfill will stay there, sequestered from the environment.

"But, seriously, if you're out in the middle of nowhere what's the difference?"

Probably nothing. In nature there are all sorts of organisms that will work very quickly to decompose the poop. On a sidewalk, in a city, few of those organisms exist. But more importantly, as with most ethical questions, the answer is this: of course one person doing something wrong won't make a difference. But if each person has that attitude, the cumulative effect will be that bad things happen. So each individual has the responsibility to do the right thing, even if their own act won't hurt anything -- because if everyone made the individual decision to be unethical, the results would be disasterous.

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Doggy doolies are the best way to go. They come with enzymes to eat the poop, or you can dump coffee grounds down there. Those eat anything. Including stomach linings.

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Why hug the bunnies and not the parasites? They are living things too! SAVE THE TAPEWORM! SAVE THE PINWORM!!

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Why C Everett, I had no idea the bags were recyclable.

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Just a correction in regards to Escherichia coli (E. coli) bacteria. The human digestive system contains billions of this species of bacteria and they are necessary for sorption of vitamins and other nutrients (they are symbiotic to us).
Only some strains of E. coli (a subset of total E. coli), such as O157:H7, are pathogenic (disease-causing) in humans.

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Great article, daphne. I always use old Walmart or grocery bags to clean up after Scout, but I've been looking for something better. Especially after the time I picked up poo with a bag that had gotten a hole in it. I totally agree though that dog crap shouldn't go on sidewalks. I need to tell that to my neighbors who don't clean up after their dog. Since we share a yard with them, it's slightly annoying. When we lived in a house, we made a "doggie septic system" by sinking a bucket into the ground and punching holes in the bottom of it. Then we put the enzymes in there with the poo and it made some great sludge. I'll have to look into those bags, though. They sound like a great idea.

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Thanks for the comments.

But, in closing, people. one last thought.

nature has a balance. too many people or overbred dogs do not work into the natural scheme of the plan.

In closing, with a somewhat hubby who works chemical USA army, i know the epa. why don't they care? don't go there. why? quick lesson and i'll leave this alone.
usda does not have any regulations towards the lives of slaughterhouse animals until they are in the slaughter line. money.
epa. money.

seriously people, get rid of the fucking msnba and fox newspapers and read some real fucking news.

bunnyhugger toking up and forever dropping this stupid subject.

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Another reason to hate dogs - vicious killers that they are.

Is rubbing dog poop in your eyes a bad thing?

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Is rubbing dog poop in your eyes a bad thing?
Not if the option is watching Fox News.

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A little late with my comment, however as I've mentioned before, I own a Brazilian Fila, which craps according to his size, he should be weighing roughly 115 lbs (yes, that is correct),and drops his pebbles 3 times per day. You do the math as to how much poop my wife and I shovel each day from our garage, garden, stairway, etc. I do have considered building my own compost plant and getting some economical benefit out of the tons of manure we live with. We do not use biodegradeble bags (yet), but let me tell you when trash is not taken outside on time, poop in the plastic bags begins it's natural decomposition by itself. Mind you, this is an exothermic reaction, so doggie litter bags are a bit warm and fuzzy when you pick them up after several days from the tigtly sealed trash can. And whitish-fungus-goo covers all remains inside the bags which I guess indicates matter is rotting as it should. I do wonder how much methane is trapped inside those bags afterwards... would it explode if I smnoke to close???

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Something just occurred to me. If, to quote Dave, "In a landfill, trash doesn't decompose. It just sits there," then... why does the plastic bags vs biodegradable bags issue even matter? The bags aren't going to degrade anyway. Are the biodegradable bags made in a cleaner way that is safer for the environment?

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Actually, some "environmentally correct" products out there are produced in un-environmentally correct ways. They use a tremendous number of unnatural chemicals, horrible ammounts of electricity, and produce fumes that contaminate the atmosphere. I am not saying the bags are made this way, but it is good to research what "environmentally friendly" products you use if you are a conservation-savvy person.

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Some weeks ago I went for an early stroll with my Fila, and without prior notice, he squatted on the sidewalk just in front of a nearby kindergarden. The humungous load was steaming in front of these stunned kids who were either amazed or wretching for the stench. I gracefully tied to pick up this bomb as best I could but just when I was reaching out with my hand in a plastic bag, the damn dog frantically yanked his leash trying to get free (he hates the smell of his own poop).

As a result my hand missed by a few inches, and I landed with my elbow in the hot turd cake. My jacket, shirt and my arm were now smeared in goo, and I was several blocks away from home. The walk back was an amusing ride, you might say. I almost puked several times, and I had to keep my arm stretched out before me, avoiding any further contact with my clothes or skin. The look on people's faces was a sight to see.

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Hi,
Saw the email regarding picking up dog poop. I came across the greatest tool on an 800 number a few months ago that eliminates the job completely. Instead of picking up afterwards the dog actually goes right into a bag and then you pull this drawstring and the bag closes by itself. It’s on an extendable handle and so simple to use. I can’t believe how good it is. It really works best for dogs on leashes, it’s not really a dog park thing. Anyway it’s called a Port-A-Puppy and the website is portapuppy.com You should check it out.

David

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Damn, Winnie, Filas are great dogs. My neighbor has one. Rare in the US but such good guard dogs. Please, I'd love to see a pic of your dog. Email me.

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I never knew som much about dog poo before in my life. Thanks for the insight!! Poop Shooter

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In my town, the city puts pooch poop bag dispensers in the parks. There is also a for hire service that goes around picking up poop from yards.

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you people are ridiculous! i own a 100 pound amstaff and i never pick up after him . i think people like you should pick your battles and stop complaining about every little fuckin thing you see!! this country is becoming less and less free because people like you ! bitching all the time about shit that doesnt matter.
if you put forth as much effort as you do trying to get new bullshit laws passed maybe you could help a homeless person or or anyone in need , and just maybe can make some changes in our country. but instead people like you gripe about petty bullshit.... the music in that car is too loud , lets pass a law .
there is poop on the ground , lets pass a law.
i dont like smoking, lets pass a law.
mcdonalds makes me fat, lets pass a law.
i dont like their x-mas display, lets pass a law. ......come on people lets get it together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You never pick up his poop? How considerate of others you are. I bet your neighbors love you.

It's people like you that make it harder for people like me, who also own bully breeds, to get along in society. They think I'm going to be some douchebag like you who leaves shit on the sidewalk or in their yard.

Thanks.


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all I have to say to your last comment, Daphne, is...LMAO!!! Wish people understood and were considerate. Unforunately, that is never the case.

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The reason people make it hard for you to own a bully breed of dog is because it's stupid ass dogs like your breed who are going around killing innocent children and other farm animals, as well as my perfectly innocent cat who died right outside his own house because someone let their goddamn pit bull loose in MY yard. And did they put their dog down? No, they let it kill two other house pets before moving so they wouldn't have to put it down. Maybe the issue of picking up poop to make the world a safer place doesn't make someone qualified to own whatever they want because they use biodegradable bags. Sorry to sound bitter, but I am. If I had it my way, you'd have to do a lot more than pick up their crap to be eligible to own a pit bull.

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*sigh* Again with the pit bull bashing. Too many stupid people own pit bulls and let them (or train them) to be little killing machines while there are responsible people out there that love pits for their loyalty and fun-loving temperments. I have a dog that is another "child mauling" breed (rottweiler mix) and even though she'd never bite anyone, most people think she's evil or something.

And yes, you can contract MANY diseases from fecal matter. As a microbiologist, I see stuff like that every day...stupid employees who don't wash their hands after taking a dump and then getting nasty little coliforms all over the food samples I test. It's enough to make you puke. :P


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Simple solution. Don't puick up the crap. Ever. Let the damn dog bag it. I use a PooDooty and PooDooty bag. I sent them a picture of my dog using it. Miss Lucy is wearing her pink and grey walking jacket. LOL.
I love her to pieces, but don't have to touch her crap anymore, THANK GAWD!! M.

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POST#400 I dont get it in my parents retirement community they pick up the poop with a plastic bag thats turned inside out then turn it outside in no gloves needed with that technique. But if plastic isnt biodegradeable then isnt that defeating the purpose?
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You have to check out the Doody Dangler!
www.doodydangler.com
It's designed so you don't have carry the bag of poop. Sounds silly, but it really works.

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As you will see on my website, it's a great pity that there are not more dog lovers like yourself.
Thanks for your consideration of others.

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I can't stand it when folks don't pick up after their dogs! I am sure they are not as careless when it comes to cleaning after their own bodily functions.

Here's an easy way to go with it: Skooperbox! I just found this nifty, completely Biodegradeable and super-easy to use product called the Skooperbox. I can't really find them in too many places-- I live in L.A. and they're not even in Petco or Petsmart--so here's their website:
www.skooperbox.com --they really are cool.

So pick up and save the planet too!

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Wow. I didn't realize dog shit was that toxic. As many times I've stepped in dog poop in my life, I should be dead by now.

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Yeah. The nut job who wrote this mess really didn't need to not be so negative...

Oh.

Shit.

Nevermind.


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I once had to shimmy commando style on by back underneath a trailer to make a repair. Unfortunately for me, the junkyard dog (who has eaten who knows what) had decided moments earlier to shit in the shade as it were. It wound up in my hair and all the way down to my ass. I guess I'm lucky to be alive also.

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My dog pooped in someones yard....I am firm about picking up after him, but today I forgot to bring a bag and he already pooped at my house. Any way he shit in a persons yard...it had a MCAIN'T & FPAILING sign in the front yard so I LEFT IT THERE!

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YIKES! After reading some of this stuf it's a wonder I've survived 56 years of pets and farm livestock. I use DP, buried fairly deeply, then covered with soil to grow amazing flowers.

I'm having a bit of a giggle, though, about the person who seems to think wild dogs have fewer disease and parasite problems than domestic ones. Honey, it just ain't so...they have all or most plus some of their own unique ones. For instance, ticks have a field day on cyotes and wolves up here in wild Upper Peninsula of Michigan. And mange regularly wipes out populations of fox and other canine animals. And ever heard of rabies?

And Nitrogen added to any soil anywhere feeds the weeds along with the plants we foster. Without weeds growing and holding down the soil on what would be bare spots we'd all have to put our plows upside down on our roofs...so we could plow our fields one more time while they blow away.

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animar.....Weeds can also help your garden. When I used to grow a lot of snow peas I always left standing the wild lambs quarter (also called goosefoot) that came up in the rows. It not only provided something for my peas to climb on but, since it is fairly deep rooted, it brought beneficial nutrients up that, when it was finally pulled and allowed to rot, helped the other veggies in my garden.


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Great topic and discussion - I found it while researching the whole dog poop composting thing.

Here's the deal: it seems like the complaint people have about dog poop is the pathogen content. I read one bit that had concerns about the high nitrogen content, but hey, isn't that something that is solved all the time by mixing different elements into one's fertilizer?

So here's my gripe. I don't actually see any proof that when people get sick it is from using properly composted/digested pet poop in their gardens. I don't see any proof that roundworms infest the plants so that by eating them, people get sick. I totally agree with the problem of farms being contaminated by poor poop processing at nearby factory farms - I think those nasty operations should be required to set up proper poop processing centers themselves if they must carry on such a horrible business. I'm talking about properly broken-down and aged dog poo.

I suspect that this bug-o-phobia is an over-reaction on the part of the powers that pronounce on health, and the ineffective way that our health care system handles these sorts of infections.

Also, what about people with raw vegan dogs, or almost-raw vegan dogs? Wouldn't that change the picture completely? After all, humanure from us omnivores has been used successfully for centuries in food farming.

Surely this is merely a matter of proper processing of poo, don't you think?

After studying the lives of raw vegans and even a raw animal product eater like Aajonus Vonderplanitz, it seems there is a fair amount of common sense in the idea that most people do not succumb to infections when their bodies are eating clean, burning clean, and are well populated by healthy bacteria (from eating probiotic foods like lacto-fermented veggies, kefir, water kefir, kombucha, cultured dairy... and even taking soil-based organisms - a key contributor to the healing of Jordin Rubin) It appears that in people who have done the work of eating clean and populating their body with the proper organisms, they just don't get sick from bugs very often as people eating conventional western diets. I find this true in my own life as I waffle from one side to the other.

And with simple, safe, inexpensive supplements like MMS (so inexpensive that it is probably better to buy it than to make it yourself...which is also doable)which are capable of killing parasites, viruses, fungi and bacteria with ease, it isn't as though a trip to the doctor is even necessary in most cases. Heck, I once solved a gut-wrenching food poisoning event (undercooked lamb at a restaurant) within an hour, simply sipping apple cider vinegar and water, 1:1 ratio....VERY tiny sips, it tastes nasty, but boy does it work.

Anyway, I'm just saying that people can either cultivate a lifestyle that makes their bodies pretty clean and unattractive to garbage-processors OR they can use inexpensive solutions if they pick something up...or just as a precaution. Many healthcare practitioners think we are full of parasites just from eating at restaurants, anyway!

For some real poop fun, I enjoy the photos and thousands of stories on the drnatura site, full of poop with parasites in it.

So I'm having a hard time believing that dog poop has to be so off-limits for use in the garden. I wish people were more open to questioning the status quo of "dog poop bad" and figure out whether any actions on our part can make "dog poop good for this and that application if you do x and y."

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Come on everybody, just quit being so damn lazy! Pick up the poo! its not hard!! Even if your dog is not sick, the poo is still poo!! It can can disease no matter what! IT IS SHIT!!! And you are SHIT if you dont pick up the SHIT!! AHHHHHH!!!

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When I was growing up there was a kid in the neighborhood named Derwood. Derwood fancied himself as a superhero. A cross between Batman and Popeye. He wore a beach towel as a cape and apparently did not like spinach.

His magic superpower food was... dog crap. Yes! The little munchkin would munch a mouthful and go running around the block giggling like the maniac that he was, cape flapping in the breeze, dispatching all the invisible evil doers. And yes folks, shit eaters do have a special grin.

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I agree with JC Vegas, just pick up the dog poop; or hire someone to do it for you. There are few things as gross as a huge pile of abandoned dog feces!